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  • Orranhawk did a Whole 30 and cut out the stevia, which she thought was relatively benign, and within two days discovered that it was what had been causing her a number of issues she couldn't shake.
    Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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    • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
      Absolutely. Programming us to ignore our hunger by eating everything that is on our plates is one of the worst things parents do to their kids.

      I was raised to clean my plate "for the starving children in India". We were proud how well we cleaned our plates, regardless of how much was there, whether it was tasty or awful, or who had decided how much to put on it.

      Of course, we weren't allowed to put on our plates only what we were hungry for. They had to be heaped high with food. It was a point of pride how much food we were able to pack down.

      How'd that work out for starving kids in India, Mom? Didn't work out so well for me.
      This is what I do with my kids. I don't pull the starving kid in India routine. I just let them eat when they want. If dinner isn't ready and they want something, they can eat. I'd rather them eat when they are hungry versus when I have food ready. I know with 5 of us in the house, it'll all be eaten eventually. The only night that everything seems to get eaten at the same time is on Tuesdays. That is called "Taco Tuesdays" in our house and is probably the only night I can guarantee no leftovers.
      Georgette

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      • The only fat bomb I have now is my bulletproof coffee. I may have a hot tea in the evening with some CO if I want it. The rest of the day I eat food with a lot of fat in it and that helps.
        Georgette

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        • I too had the starving kids in China thing. I tried to reason with my mom way back then that what was on my plate had nothing to do with people in China, but she wouldn't have it. Still it is part of my upbrining, so it's hard to shake sometimes. I continue to overeat, but I know that once I get into ketosis my appetitie will subside. I just seem to be having a bit of trouble getting there. Today will be a much better day in that regard. I've got everything planned out until dinner.
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          Donna

          My current diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread100765.html
          My original diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77760.html



          Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter

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          • Originally posted by geostump View Post
            This is what I do with my kids. I don't pull the starving kid in India routine. I just let them eat when they want. If dinner isn't ready and they want something, they can eat. I'd rather them eat when they are hungry versus when I have food ready. I know with 5 of us in the house, it'll all be eaten eventually. The only night that everything seems to get eaten at the same time is on Tuesdays. That is called "Taco Tuesdays" in our house and is probably the only night I can guarantee no leftovers.
            Most people can't leave a skinny kid alone. I recall an intelligent woman at the lunch table describing how a houseful of adults would browbeat one kid to get her to eat more, convinced that if they didn't do this the kid would literally stop eating and starve to death. I could only think of how they had trained the kid to see mealtime as a game to rile up the adults.

            When I first moved into the house I live in, I didn't have a stove here. Every day for a month until I got the stove my 2 year old daughter wanted carrots for supper. Did I get sick of microwaved carrots or what? And then when she went to school, every day she had a peanut butter sandwich, plain or with chocolate, until she got into high school and started bringing leftovers. After she graduated she thanked me for letting her have what she wanted, while all the other kids were bringing in stuff their parents forced on them.

            My boyfriend's mother is Korean and grew up in true poverty. She would serve small portions, and you had to eat your portion before she would ask you if you wanted more. His American grandparents tried to force him to eat once, and he vomited at the dinner table. It happened only once.
            Last edited by eKatherine; 02-26-2013, 08:33 AM.

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            • I don't force my kids to eat what is on their plate. I try to plate up just a small amount of food for them. Sometimes they eat it, sometimes they don't. Every night while I'm making dinner, they're complaining of being hungry and rummaging through the fridge for things like string cheese, hotdogs, etc. We are on our last pack of hotdogs and I won't buy any more. I have a fridge that is fully stocked with apples, pears, strawberries, blueberries, cheese (3 kinds), and bananas on the counter. They are allowed to eat any of that stuff they want before dinner, and skip dinner if they're full when it's ready.
              Primal since March 5, 2012
              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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              • 3 of my 11 lbs is gone - overnight - just like that. Not practicing the low carb thing right now - just getting back into the groove of eating primally after my week off. Will start working toward ketosis again tomorrow.
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • That's fantastic Jenn!!
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                  Donna

                  My current diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread100765.html
                  My original diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77760.html



                  Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter

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                  • Originally posted by 252dlp View Post
                    That's fantastic Jenn!!
                    haha Thank you... but I'm thinking what would have been fantastic is to have remained on track, to not have eaten wheat and sugar like it was an endangered resource, and to have NOT gained 11 lbs doing so! lol But thank you for the encouragement!!
                    Primal since March 5, 2012
                    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                    • You're welcome {{speaking as one who just put back on the two pounds she lost by endulging in too much of whatever and now can't get TWO pounds off, lol}}
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                      Donna

                      My current diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread100765.html
                      My original diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77760.html



                      Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter

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                      • Yeah, Jenn! at least its moving in the right direction

                        Okay - tested this morning with the ketostix and measured "mild". Not bad for only one day of clean HFLC eating. Technically day 3 - but I did have rum over the weekend. (there goes my new years resolution). Weight had a slight upturn - 182.2 (yesterday 181.8) Reaching for 177 (primal low).

                        @Demuralist: I might try to evening testing to see if I get a different read.

                        @InSearchofAbs ................ I think I'll jump on that wagon with you.
                        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                        2. Eat to heal
                        3. Move to live
                        4. Embrace today
                        5. Live with intention
                        6. Respect my body
                        7. Cultivate joy
                        8. Find my passion
                        9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                        • Originally posted by pamola10 View Post
                          Now I have to go and check the liquid stevia I bought last week. I usually don't mess with sugar substitutes because I respond behaviourally just like to sugar but I was persuaded by this thread to think about it. I am eager to try someone's (sorry) bullet-proof matcha green tea (was that you, Pebbles?) as soon as I can find the tea.
                          Me, I use pure liquid stevia, there is a pure powdered stevia that is just stevia powder as well, I just find the dropper easier. I order the pwdered green tea Matcha direct from the Republic of Tea Website.
                          Chris
                          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                          Unknown

                          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                          • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                            Yeah, Jenn! at least its moving in the right direction

                            Okay - tested this morning with the ketostix and measured "mild". Not bad for only one day of clean HFLC eating. Technically day 3 - but I did have rum over the weekend. (there goes my new years resolution). Weight had a slight upturn - 182.2 (yesterday 181.8) Reaching for 177 (primal low).

                            @Demuralist: I might try to evening testing to see if I get a different read.

                            @InSearchofAbs ................ I think I'll jump on that wagon with you.
                            Yay! I won't be on the wagon alone!

                            And about the ketosticks, I usually only test in the morning because of what
                            others have said, that the sticks don't know if the fat their reading is bodyfat
                            being burned or the fat you just ingested for lunch.

                            And with us on here eating SO much fat, I don't bother with later readings.

                            SO, even with a fat laden meal for dinner, you'd THINK.... you'd THINK, that
                            the body could process that nonsense in the 8 or more hours you were asleep
                            and you wouldn't be reading dinner fat still, in the morning.

                            So that's what I go with.

                            Yesterday I think was my very first day of acccctually keeping protein low and fat
                            at 80%.

                            Cals - 1321
                            Protein - 43g
                            Carbs - 15g
                            Fat - 120g

                            %
                            13/7/80

                            Red Death is due tomorrow and I'm feeling a little squishy, but not as much
                            bloat (usually five pounds) that I usually get beforehand, which is nice, cuz
                            my pants aren't tight. Tight pants piss Mother off and makes her cranky.

                            Julie

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                            • Okay, one the wagon it is! (damn)

                              WOOHOO for good numbers! I love those days! Your number are very close to mine - 'cept I try to keep the total calories under 1200.

                              No more red death or russian circus at my house!

                              Hoping for no 5 pound bloat - eeesh!
                              1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                              2. Eat to heal
                              3. Move to live
                              4. Embrace today
                              5. Live with intention
                              6. Respect my body
                              7. Cultivate joy
                              8. Find my passion
                              9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                              • I know, the wagon sucks for sure, but man, lately it just hasn't
                                been worth it.

                                Not cuz I get hungover or anything, but just the sheer calories from it
                                all, and then craving crap the next day but not giving in.

                                I can't WAIT to not have red death ever again. Grrr!

                                I've been shooooooting for 1200 cals, but with my activity level, and my
                                libran ways, I usually justify (in my mind) more.

                                But as long as it's lower than the 1600 I averaged LAST month, I'll call it
                                progress.

                                HA!

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