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  • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
    Geo, aren't you losing with what you are doing right now? Why put the extra stress of a workout, or even worse the guilt for not working out, into the mix? Keep doing what you are doing and when you are on your "work break" you will have time and need the workout for mental health you can start then.
    I'm not even sure if I am losing right now or not. I think I just lot whatever gains I may have previously had. Jeans are back to being loose again. We'll see what the scale says come Friday morning.
    Georgette

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    • I am really hoping I can join you guys. I did really well on primal but stoped 6 months ago because it was driving my husband nuts. Well long story short I have gained 30 lbs and really need a jumpstart with very low carb and high fat. I'm excited to get started, actually started yesterday, and would love the support you guys show each other. Thanks!!!

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      • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
        Sorry, we posted at the same time and I didn't see this.

        It is good in coffee too, if you have sleep issues you can do decaf.

        If you go to the recipe group (the link is on the first page in the first post of this thread) there is a discussion currently on the first page called "how to get more fat for NK" you will have to copy and paste and there are 2 sites in there with some good suggestions. Then there is also a discussion currently on the second page called "fat bomb recipes" and there are 2 sites there with a recipe each. Also, I bet if you google "fat bomb recipes" you will get a slew of them.
        Oh my. I hadn't ever ventured into the recipe area...I'm going to try to make some cream cheese clouds tonight. :-) Thanks for guiding me.

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        • Originally posted by InSearchOfAbs View Post
          Megan, do you like macadamia nuts?

          Very easy fat calories there and the carbs are fairly negligible.

          You could also find some salami that didn't have a bunch of crap
          in it and spread some cream cheese on it.. I did that the other day
          with a sliced banana pepper on each one (they're in a jar) and it
          was delicious and not much protein at all.

          Gladmorning - You have that pork ready by 6pm and I will fly there and
          help you eat it. THANKS!

          Julie
          The salami is a really good idea. I'm having a hard time with lunch and that might just work perfectly. I'm acquiring a taste for macadamia nuts but if I allow myself I could eat an entire container. :-) Thanks for the suggestions.

          Georgette...mmmm, vanilla in the bulletproof sounds delish!

          Welcome SAdams. Everyone is super supportive here!

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          • Originally posted by mks8500 View Post
            Georgette...mmmm, vanilla in the bulletproof sounds delish!
            I also like a sprinkle of cinnamon on top. I will have to try the vanilla!
            “Life is a journey, not a destination.”
            ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

            SW (January 2011): 208.5
            LPW (March 23, 2013): 156.0
            CW (July, 4, 2013): 172

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            • Julie, it was actually ready by 5. Oh, it was just as delicious as it was last night. This time I made a double batch so I could have left overs. Ill have no problem having it a few more times. I am on a mission to try at least three new recipes this week. Hardest part will be cooking for one.
              The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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              • Welcome SAdams! I just joined myself.

                I made my leftover spaghetti squash, and it was just as good tonight. I forgot another ingredient....artichoke pesto. I found it at whole Foods and it sounded pretty good, and it is, lol.
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                Donna

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                • Welcome SAdams! What was it that drove your husband crazy? Maybe we can help with that too.
                  Chris
                  "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                  My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                  My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                  • Hi Gang! Its so good to see the newcomers - several a day it seems!

                    Today was a stellar day for me - GREAT numbers and I'm feeling good! I broke down and spent $15.99 on ketostix - and its only a 50 count container. UGH! Next time I'll order them online and save some money! I'll use the first one in the morning. does is matter that I always go pee around 4 am - and then again at about 7:30 am? Will I get the accurate reading at 7:30? I'm so looking forward to seeing that I'm in deep ketosis and can expect the pounds to fall off!
                    1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                    2. Eat to heal
                    3. Move to live
                    4. Embrace today
                    5. Live with intention
                    6. Respect my body
                    7. Cultivate joy
                    8. Find my passion
                    9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                    • And a welcome to the fellow newbies!

                      You know what astonishes me? How much we over eat, without ever thinking about it. I'm faithfully following Pebbles' guideline from page 1, and it's really adequate food, and yet ... there's not a lot of it. So wow. We as a culture have so allowed ourselves to slide into gluttony! Not meaning to, really. Just by not being mindful. By having so much at our fingertips. And all that mindless munching. It's amazing how different things are when the mindless munching stops.

                      But it's such a hard habit to break, especially when there's an emotional component to eating. I have a bingeing history myself. I seem to be close to winning it, but it's hard and I don't think the urge ever completely goes away. I'm just crossing my fingers that this time the weight I lose stays off for good. I am sick to death of the rollercoaster. Here's to developing strategies to short circuit that vicious cycle!

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                      • tomi, In Jimmy Moore's N=1 experiment his ketones are higher at sunset than at sunrise. You might consider doing 1 day of morning and 1 day at sunset or just after to see which gives a better reading? For me I will do the morning, assuming it is a worst case scenario.
                        Chris
                        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                        Unknown

                        My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                        • Originally posted by OzK View Post
                          And a welcome to the fellow newbies!

                          You know what astonishes me? How much we over eat, without ever thinking about it. I'm faithfully following Pebbles' guideline from page 1, and it's really adequate food, and yet ... there's not a lot of it. So wow. We as a culture have so allowed ourselves to slide into gluttony! Not meaning to, really. Just by not being mindful. By having so much at our fingertips. And all that mindless munching. It's amazing how different things are when the mindless munching stops.

                          But it's such a hard habit to break, especially when there's an emotional component to eating. I have a bingeing history myself. I seem to be close to winning it, but it's hard and I don't think the urge ever completely goes away. I'm just crossing my fingers that this time the weight I lose stays off for good. I am sick to death of the rollercoaster. Here's to developing strategies to short circuit that vicious cycle!
                          There's plenty of blame to go around, but don't ignore the continuous drumbeat from corporate America that we must constantly reach for processed snacks to avoid ever experiencing hunger. Follow the money. Who would lose the most if Americans cut their calorie intake by 1/3 and stopped purchasing junk?

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                          • Originally posted by OzK View Post
                            And a welcome to the fellow newbies!

                            You know what astonishes me? How much we over eat, without ever thinking about it. I'm faithfully following Pebbles' guideline from page 1, and it's really adequate food, and yet ... there's not a lot of it. So wow. We as a culture have so allowed ourselves to slide into gluttony! Not meaning to, really. Just by not being mindful. By having so much at our fingertips. And all that mindless munching. It's amazing how different things are when the mindless munching stops.
                            Ya'll ever hear "clear your plate" or "eat all your food, there are starving children..." Yeah, I did. a lot of people did. So when we become adults, that's still ingrained in us. Etched to our very core. So, going to a restaurant where a "meal" is about what three people should eat, we're conditioned to "clear your plate."

                            Just a thought.
                            The process is simple: Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

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                            • Originally posted by Gladmorning View Post
                              Ya'll ever hear "clear your plate" or "eat all your food, there are starving children..." Yeah, I did. a lot of people did. So when we become adults, that's still ingrained in us. Etched to our very core. So, going to a restaurant where a "meal" is about what three people should eat, we're conditioned to "clear your plate."

                              Just a thought.
                              Absolutely. Programming us to ignore our hunger by eating everything that is on our plates is one of the worst things parents do to their kids.

                              I was raised to clean my plate "for the starving children in India". We were proud how well we cleaned our plates, regardless of how much was there, whether it was tasty or awful, or who had decided how much to put on it.

                              Of course, we weren't allowed to put on our plates only what we were hungry for. They had to be heaped high with food. It was a point of pride how much food we were able to pack down.

                              How'd that work out for starving kids in India, Mom? Didn't work out so well for me.
                              Last edited by eKatherine; 02-26-2013, 06:38 AM.

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                              • I am noticing that I am not really hungry enough to eat all that I have prepared and recorded. This is another indication of ketosis, I guess, though those fat bombs last night were very filling. And I have to wonder about my moderate ketones this morning: due to metabolizing my personal fat or my dietary fat?

                                Doesn't matter too much. I am feeling slightly better, less foggy anyway, though I am still dropping things (this is a work burnout, I think, and not related overmuch to diet).

                                Need to get OFF the scale. I do best with weekly weighing but have been obsessing with the thing this week. It can be SO motivating (and of course the opposite is also possible).

                                I have been over calories and carbs but doing better about hitting the protein and fat macros...closer, anyway. Being over on carbs still means under 35 gm a day so I am not going to worry about that too much. I am hoping to get into some easy patterns of eating and working out so that when I go back to work (next week) it isn't too much to think about.

                                In the meantime, still have work to do (to catch up before people come back into the office next week) and decluttering around the house, and all of the usual things.

                                By the way, I threw cocoa nibs and sunflower seeds into the fat bombs. I was afraid that I would binge on them but wow, that's a LOT of fat...it would be really hard to binge on those things unless I really sweetened them up, which I didn't do.

                                Oh, I was checking out powdered stevia at the grocery store today, in the "organic" section, and the stuff (can't remember the brand name) has maltodextrin in it! And erithritol...I don't know how I react to that but other sugar alcohols are not so good.

                                Now I have to go and check the liquid stevia I bought last week. I usually don't mess with sugar substitutes because I respond behaviourally just like to sugar but I was persuaded by this thread to think about it. I am eager to try someone's (sorry) bullet-proof matcha green tea (was that you, Pebbles?) as soon as I can find the tea.

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