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  • I do my shopping on Saturday, but that can also get me in trouble if I buy too many new things because I want to try them all at once, lol. This week I bought a spaghetti squash. I haven't had one in years, and I never really did love them, but I wanted to try again since way back when I was still eating regular pasta and was trying to substitute for that. Yesterday I decided to just make it a dish by itself, not a substitute, so I sauteed it with chicken in some garlic herb butter and it was yummy. I'm planning on having that for dinner tonight, but with bacon instead of chicken since my protein for today is already too high.
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    • Originally posted by 252dlp View Post
      so I sauteed it with chicken in some garlic herb butter and it was yummy.
      That does sound yummy. The only way I eat spaghetti squash is as spaghetti... I nuke it with water and butter. Very yummy. But your way sounds better.
      Primal since March 5, 2012
      SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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      • Well, now that I've been gluten free since 2005, I may actually try it as spaghetti replacement again too. The rice noodles out there are really very good, but mentally I think I could accept the spaghetti squash now better than I could before I had to go gluten-free, especially now since I found it so yummy yesterday. Does that make sense, lol?
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        • Well it seems like the weekend did it in for some of us. I managed to hang on but was STARVING last night after trying to keep my protein around 50. The good news is that I did it (77g fat, 52g protein, 6g carbs). The better news is that the low protein worked. My blood ketones were at 1.7 this morning which is the highest they've ever been. I know it was the protein since I've had days with 6g of carbs before. The bad news is I have no idea how to maintain this I only ate 896 calories yesterday as a result...no wonder I was starving. So...I need to keep protein AND carbs low...swell.

          In other news, I go on vacation for a long weekend on Thursday and have no idea how I'll do it since it's a celebration trip (finished my master's degree today) and a reunion with college friends...for whatever reason we ALWAYS meet over a meal. I'm going to do my best but not be crazy. I'm stressing about being out of ketosis just as soon as I've figure it out though.

          Megan

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          • Megan, Why is your fat so low?
            Primal since 9/24/2010
            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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            • Originally posted by mks8500 View Post
              Well it seems like the weekend did it in for some of us. I managed to hang on but was STARVING last night after trying to keep my protein around 50. The good news is that I did it (77g fat, 52g protein, 6g carbs). The better news is that the low protein worked. My blood ketones were at 1.7 this morning which is the highest they've ever been. I know it was the protein since I've had days with 6g of carbs before. The bad news is I have no idea how to maintain this I only ate 896 calories yesterday as a result...no wonder I was starving. So...I need to keep protein AND carbs low...swell.


              Megan
              Megan, you are starving because you didn't have enough fat, with 52g of protein your fat should be over 100g. If you do dairy, you could end your night with a Bullet Proof tea (you would get 11g of fat for a T of butter, 14g of fat for a T of MCT oil, 10g for a T of HWC if you chose to use that.) Or you could make a fat bomb.

              p.s. congrats on the Master's Degree!!!!
              Chris
              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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              • Megan, congrats on the degree! Yahoo!

                Good thread as always. Nothing like opening up and finding four new pages...since yesterday!

                It does sound like the weekend was rough but lots of people have strategies in plan and in place to make things work better. My weekend was good: I am here by myself, enjoying that. I am very tired and foggy in the head but I think it is more about work and less about EMF. I am getting the "more fat, less protein" part better now, and focusing my veggies on mushrooms, spinach, asparagus, brussels sprouts (rather than the beets, carrots, onions and tomatoes that I prefer). I am also saving a spot for a bit of 85% dark chocolate because otherwise I'll dip into deprivation mind which is an unsafe place to be.

                I located ketostix here but they only had the glucose and ketone type. That'll do. My last ketostrip, desperately out of date, showed MODERATE this afternoon....YAY for me! I can't tell you how long it has been since I showed any colour of purple on a ketostick. Even with other markers suggesting ketosis I'll show nothing, and in serious weight loss mode I show trace. So this felt like a big deal, even though I was prepared for anything.

                This whole eating thing is a lot easier with my DH out of town. Just noticing that. He'll be back later this week and then I'll have a lot more to figure out.

                Keep up the great work, everyone. I am off to look at fat recipes in the group.

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                • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
                  Megan, Why is your fat so low?
                  Poor planning I guess. By dinner I had run out of protein and really wanted to see how things ended up on the monitor if protein was around 50g. Short of drinking oil I was sort of stuck. I'm hoping today is better but it's not looking like it so far. I tried my first avocado last week and I'm not a huge fan. Trying to stay away from dairy but have used HWC and Cream Cheese for the fat. I just need to find some stuff that works and so far I haven't found it. Still hungry today. It's about 4:30 and I have about 25g of protein to mess with for the rest of the day. Then I'll test again in the morning and will hopefully be above 2. :-)

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                  • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                    Megan, you are starving because you didn't have enough fat, with 52g of protein your fat should be over 100g. If you do dairy, you could end your night with a Bullet Proof tea (you would get 11g of fat for a T of butter, 14g of fat for a T of MCT oil, 10g for a T of HWC if you chose to use that.) Or you could make a fat bomb.

                    p.s. congrats on the Master's Degree!!!!
                    What's a fat bomb? I'm willing to try almost anything. I'm not a big fan of tea so I'd have to go buy some.

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                    • It is easier for me when DH is out of town as well. Makes no sense really, as I just make myself a big salad and whatever protein I am serving them, then add some starch for them, which I have no problem resisting.
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • Megan, do you like macadamia nuts?

                        Very easy fat calories there and the carbs are fairly negligible.

                        You could also find some salami that didn't have a bunch of crap
                        in it and spread some cream cheese on it.. I did that the other day
                        with a sliced banana pepper on each one (they're in a jar) and it
                        was delicious and not much protein at all.

                        Gladmorning - You have that pork ready by 6pm and I will fly there and
                        help you eat it. THANKS!

                        Julie

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                        • I'm not worrying about buying any ketostix or any ketone meters right now. That's money that I can't justify spending right now, especially with being out of a job in the next week. I'm just going to keep eating as I have been and hopefully add some workouts soon. I just haven't been working out lately. I have zero motivation to workout right now.
                          Georgette

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                          • Originally posted by mks8500 View Post
                            What's a fat bomb? I'm willing to try almost anything. I'm not a big fan of tea so I'd have to go buy some.
                            Sorry, we posted at the same time and I didn't see this.

                            It is good in coffee too, if you have sleep issues you can do decaf.

                            If you go to the recipe group (the link is on the first page in the first post of this thread) there is a discussion currently on the first page called "how to get more fat for NK" you will have to copy and paste and there are 2 sites in there with some good suggestions. Then there is also a discussion currently on the second page called "fat bomb recipes" and there are 2 sites there with a recipe each. Also, I bet if you google "fat bomb recipes" you will get a slew of them.
                            Chris
                            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                            • Originally posted by geostump View Post
                              I'm not worrying about buying any ketostix or any ketone meters right now. That's money that I can't justify spending right now, especially with being out of a job in the next week. I'm just going to keep eating as I have been and hopefully add some workouts soon. I just haven't been working out lately. I have zero motivation to workout right now.
                              Geo, aren't you losing with what you are doing right now? Why put the extra stress of a workout, or even worse the guilt for not working out, into the mix? Keep doing what you are doing and when you are on your "work break" you will have time and need the workout for mental health you can start then.
                              Chris
                              "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                              My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                              My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                              • Megan, I add a little vanilla extract to my bulletproof coffee and its delicious. It really helps with taste as I prefer black coffee.
                                Georgette

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