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  • Originally posted by RMS123 View Post
    MrsZ re: traveling. It can be done, although it is not easy. I do travel somewhat frequently for work. First, and I think this is important, be firmly (and I mean pretty firmly) in NK and have a routine. Then, plan, plan, plan. Take food if you can (I can usually eat breakfast by myself and then have obligations for lunch and dinner). If you can tolerate dairy and non-animal fats, it will be easier -- you can add sour cream, cheese, guac, etc. to get your fat up. In my case (no dairy and I need to limit non-animal fats), I do my best to get fatty meats. Authentic Mexican restaurants help a lot (although if you're like me, you don't have a whole lot of say about where you will be eating!). Also, if you can bring a stash of food to supplement if you can't find much decent to eat, that is also helpful.
    Hi RMS- thanks for the advice. You've made me want Mexican food today! LOL.

    I have to go to food tradeshows and the food on the floor is never primal and the hours are long so it's tough. You're right, I will have to better plan and take food along with me. I don't always rent a car when I travel so can't always get to a grocery store. When staying in a hotel sometimes they have a refrigerator sometimes not. Perhaps a sack of macadamia nuts to keep close by will help.
    This coming week I have a 6 day work week and 5 days I'll be away from home.
    I just have to figure out what works and do it!

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    • Primal Leaf, I plan to stay in ketosis for life. Ditto Pebbles reasons, yes I want to lose fat, but really the health reasons (some of which are complicated by the excess fat I carry around) are the reason I am doing this.

      Itchy, Welcome. If you track your food, many of us are on MyFitnessPal and friended each other so we can peruse daily diaries. Would love to hear of benefits you are feeling besides fat loss.
      Chris
      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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      • Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
        Lower Protein Experiment Day 2

        Macros 150/59/20 grams 1676 cals

        Wt. 226.6 (same)
        FBS 96 (Y 104) Finally in normal range.
        Ketones small 15mg/dl (Y trace) 15mg/dl = .8 Mmol
        4 clean hflc days

        Felt great all day, even after my big gym workout. I have DOMS today due to heavy lifting. Zero urge to binge.

        Neg: Dry mouth at night continues. I think I will test my BS at that time tonight.
        This looks great Pebbles! Best part about it seems the zero urge to binge. :-) You mentioned that you're drinking plenty of water but are you drinking it late into the evening also? I find that I try not to drink too much at night so I don't have to get up but if I drink a little up water until I go to bed, the dry mouth seems like less of an issue.

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        • Thanks! I think I'll proceed feeling less obligated to manufacture a break in ketosis then and just let it happen naturally. Appreciate the input!

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          • Hi everyone...I've been unofficially following this thread and trying my own experiment with high fat and I have to say that I think it's working! Thanks to everyone for this thread! I started the PB on February 1, but really haven't lost any weight--I did lose right away, but gained it right back--I think I was overeating both protein and carbs which were up near the 100 g mark. I started the PB at my highest weight ever, 182.6 pounds (female, 5'4"). I've been trying to gain a mental edge by getting below 180, but just haven't been able to do it. So, a few days ago I decided to give the higher fat, lower carbs/protein thing a try. I'm happy to say that I have finally dropped below that 180 mark. Yay.

            I still have a few non-primal things to get out of my diet, but I'm making progress and you all have helped.

            I can't seem to find my paper which has the exact figures, but I estimated that I need somewhere around 60 g of protein (max, but I've been eating around 100 g), around 39 g carbs (I've been eating more around 90-100 g), and the somewhere way over 100 g of fat. Wish I could find that paper, lol. It must be at work.
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            Donna

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            My original diary: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77760.html



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            • Question here . . . is this meter you're using the same as diabetics use to test their blood? Actually a family member has one at home. Are the strips the same as what he uses to test his blood - when he bothers, he's just pre-diabetic. As far as the Ketosticks go, I can't seem to get above the color tan.

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              • Originally posted by Rosemary 231 View Post
                Question here . . . is this meter you're using the same as diabetics use to test their blood? Actually a family member has one at home. Are the strips the same as what he uses to test his blood - when he bothers, he's just pre-diabetic. As far as the Ketosticks go, I can't seem to get above the color tan.
                Seems like it took me forever to just get to moderate ketosis. A fat fast and some exercise put me in deeper ketosis
                Karin


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                What am I doing? Depends on the day.

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                • Originally posted by 252dlp View Post
                  Hi everyone...I've been unofficially following this thread and trying my own experiment with high fat and I have to say that I think it's working! Thanks to everyone for this thread! I started the PB on February 1, but really haven't lost any weight--I did lose right away, but gained it right back--I think I was overeating both protein and carbs which were up near the 100 g mark. I started the PB at my highest weight ever, 182.6 pounds (female, 5'4"). I've been trying to gain a mental edge by getting below 180, but just haven't been able to do it. So, a few days ago I decided to give the higher fat, lower carbs/protein thing a try. I'm happy to say that I have finally dropped below that 180 mark. Yay.

                  I still have a few non-primal things to get out of my diet, but I'm making progress and you all have helped.

                  I can't seem to find my paper which has the exact figures, but I estimated that I need somewhere around 60 g of protein (max, but I've been eating around 100 g), around 39 g carbs (I've been eating more around 90-100 g), and the somewhere way over 100 g of fat. Wish I could find that paper, lol. It must be at work.

                  Congrats! and welcome. The original formula is basically that your protein in grams is your HSIS in kg, then carbs are about half that and then fat is double the protein. So if HSIS is 60kg, protein is 60g, carbs are 30g, Fat is 120g. Not as precise as some are able to do with the percentages and such, but then nutrition is not usually that precise either.
                  Chris
                  "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                  Unknown

                  My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                  My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                  • Hello All,
                    I just posted a recipe in the HFLC recipe group for Creamy Southwestern Taco soup. Very easy and really yummy.... I only wish I knew who to credit for this gem as I found it surfing various message boards yesterday.
                    “Life is a journey, not a destination.”
                    ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

                    SW (January 2011): 208.5
                    LPW (March 23, 2013): 156.0
                    CW (July, 4, 2013): 172

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                    • Originally posted by Rosemary 231 View Post
                      Question here . . . is this meter you're using the same as diabetics use to test their blood? Actually a family member has one at home. Are the strips the same as what he uses to test his blood - when he bothers, he's just pre-diabetic. As far as the Ketosticks go, I can't seem to get above the color tan.
                      The meter is the same meter as Diabetics use, though not all meters can test for ketones. Some only test blood sugar. And the strips for blood sugar are different than the ones for ketones.
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                      Unknown

                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                        The meter is the same meter as Diabetics use, though not all meters can test for ketones. Some only test blood sugar. And the strips for blood sugar are different than the ones for ketones.
                        Would you repeat what I should look for on his meter to discover if it is usable and what strips to buy if it is the correct one.
                        Thanks.

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                        • I don't actually know at the moment, mine has not arrived. You should be able to google the name of his device to see if it is capable of testing the ketones. If so you need to get the ketone strips specific to the meter he has.
                          Chris
                          "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                          Unknown

                          My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                          My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                          • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                            I don't actually know at the moment, mine has not arrived. You should be able to google the name of his device to see if it is capable of testing the ketones. If so you need to get the ketone strips specific to the meter he has.
                            Thanks, that sounds like the easiest way. To borrow someone elses meter isn't exactly like asking to borrow his toothbrush, since the only area that touches one's body fluids is the test strip, right?, it shouldn't put him in an uncomfortable position.

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                            • When my weight loss has stalled and I feel it's due to water retention, (my wedding ring fits a bit snugger) I notice after a few days to a week of going to the bathroom like crazy (pee), this can go on all of 1 day and through the night (really annoying), but after it slows down and I weigh, I find I'd lost considerable weight. Could I be right in suspecting that this is how my body retains and then releases water?

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                              • no, but you can get the meter for free when you buy the test strips...Nova Max Ketone Strips With FREE Glucose & Ketone Meter Kit | Glucose Meter
                                Chris
                                "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                                Unknown

                                My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                                My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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