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    Last edited by Rasputina; 02-02-2013, 04:00 PM.

  • #2
    Nora Gedgaudas claims that being ketogenic/VLC can cure alcohol cravings, that they're basically supercharged sugar cravings. What style of Primal are you doing now, and have you tried nutritional ketosis?
    The Champagne of Beards

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rasputina View Post
      Have any of you conquered alcoholism/alcohol abuse since going primal?
      I may be totally missing the mark by jumping in here. I'm not an alcoholic however, up until recently, I would have a glass or two of red wine most nights. Recently, I started the Shandrala diet (there's a thread on here), which entails taking in 2-3 Tbsps of oil during the day --- the purpose of ingesting the oil is to curb snacking, cravings and reduce total caloric intake. I've been taking the oil for two weeks now. My personal experience is that not only does it suppress appetite, but I have NO desire to snack and I have no cravings for carbs, sugar, wheat etc. What has come as a surprise to me, is my aversion for red wine. I'm completely off drinking because the taste does no appeal to me. Perhaps Paleo + Shangrala is a positive combination for others who would like to either drink less or remove alcohol on a more permanent basis.

      As an aside, I have also started crossfitting 3x per week, and the physical training has me so tired that the thought of a glass of wine is quite repulsive. I'm drinking more water than ever before and sleeping like a baby.

      Sorry if this posting doesn't complete address your question, but thought I would my own personal experience with taking ELOO (Extra Light Olive Oil) 2 x per day. By the way, big thanks to Heatseeker who first posted this information about Shangrala. /Lu
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      Start Date: 25-06-12 @ 161lbs
      Goal Reached: 30-09-12 @ 143lb. Now bouncing between 145lb - 149lb. I'd like less bounce and more consistency :-)

      Started Cross Fit 20.12.12 ---- Can't wait to submit my success story on the 1st anniversary of starting primal.

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      • #4
        Well, I'm out of ideas, but wish you all the luck in the world in finding a solution.
        The Champagne of Beards

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        • #5
          I was a heavy social drinker before starting Primal. My last alcohol was Dec 31, and I went Primal Jan 1. I don't know about "curing alcoholism", but I personally do not crave it at all. I would be comfortable having a glass of wine with supper, or equally comfortable saying that I will never drink again if that's what I chose.

          Right now I'm leaning towards the latter.
          "It's a great life, if you don't weaken.". John Buchan

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          • #6
            Have you looked into L-glutamine and chromium to help with alcohol cravings? Julia Ross in her book, The Diet Cure, recommends:
            "For fast,emergency relief of carbohydrates and/or alcohol cravings, take 500 milligrams of L-glutamine by opening a capsule under your tongue."

            She also states that, ''too much sugar, white flour and alcohol block us from absorbing the chromium that would stop the yo-yo blood sugars and carb cravings."

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            • #7
              Why would you think anything having to do with diet would cure you of an addiction to a drug? Like any other addiction, its up to you to quit. There might be other aspects of life that you need to change in order to do so. Why do you drink?

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              • #8
                Not sure if this is a coincidence, but if I drink/take a little ACV toward late afternoon, I'm not as in the mood to drink in the evening. But straight up primal hasn't really made me feel different in any real sense except the lower carb factor has definitely curbed my appetite. Which is a great thing.
                "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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                Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                • #9
                  Hey Rasputina <3

                  I think to deal with alcoholism you have to really look at addiction. From my experience there's a big difference between dependency and addiction - the triggers in an addiction are much more complex.

                  What environmental triggers make you want to drink? From arguments, frustrations at work, family stuff (you mentioned your family are ill), being in bars with friends, to lack of sleep, hunger, being cold.

                  What emotions do the triggers give rise to? These are what you're trying to escape from with alcohol.

                  When was the first time you felt like this?

                  I think you can do a lot of work by yourself but the right therapist will help you in leaps and bounds. Psychotherapy is great IMO.

                  Look at how you're eating and how that impacts upon your mood, your sleep, or any other factors that trigger you wanting to drink. I don't think this is a nutritional thing, but how youre eating will have a knock on effect on the rest of your life, and if the effect is negative, it could make you vulnerable to your inner demons.

                  Sending you big hugs...
                  "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                  In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                  - Ray Peat

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Zach View Post
                    Why would you think anything having to do with diet would cure you of an addiction to a drug? Like any other addiction, its up to you to quit. There might be other aspects of life that you need to change in order to do so. Why do you drink?
                    Now you have totally exposed yourself as an uninformed, misguided troll. If you knew even the slightest bit about alcoholism you would realize how stupid and unanswerable your last question is.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Artbuc View Post
                      Now you have totally exposed yourself as an uninformed, misguided troll. If you knew even the slightest bit about alcoholism you would realize how stupid and unanswerable your last question is.
                      His bro is an alcoholic. His response is not atypical of the family of an addict. They get frustrated and just want the person to "sort it out".
                      "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                      In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                      - Ray Peat

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                      • #12
                        No, I quit long before fixing my eating. I drank to die. Drank until I blacked out every night, woke up, begged for enough money to do it again, and woke up disappointed I was still alive the next day. Black velvet, vodka, infinite beer at parties, Steel Reserve 411, Old English, etc. Walking around town half naked at 2:00 AM, cops always hauling me in. Got arrested enough times, they finally offered me rehab. Lived there a month, let them reprogram my brain, and have lived well since. Sober 8 years. One relapse, but I had the tools to realize what went wrong and it hasn't happened since. I never knew all those things I never knew until I was forced to learn them. Did you know some people actually make plans and set goals for their lives instead of just being alive? It's really weird.
                        Last edited by Knifegill; 02-01-2013, 03:28 AM.
                        Crohn's, doing SCD

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                          His bro is an alcoholic. His response is not atypical of the family of an addict. They get frustrated and just want the person to "sort it out".
                          Maybe so but does not change my point. It is like asking a clinically depressed person, "why don't you just cheer-up or why are you so sad?" The fact that his bro is an alcoholic makes his question more objectionable. Hey Zach, did you ever go to Al-Anon?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Artbuc View Post
                            Maybe so but does not change my point. It is like asking a clinically depressed person, "why don't you just cheer-up or why are you so sad?" The fact that his bro is an alcoholic makes his question more objectionable. Hey Zach, did you ever go to Al-Anon?
                            Lol - I actually had the exact same dialogue with him on a thread about binging two days ago!

                            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                            I had the tools to realize what went wrong
                            I'm paraphrasing what you're saying here but it's brilliant. I think this is the key to recovery: Recognising and understanding the pattern.
                            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                            - Ray Peat

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                            • #15
                              Here is one more book:

                              Trimpey's Rational Recovery. I struggle with compulsive overeating. I'm not cured. But this book has given me tools and a sense of empowerment and understanding that OA, counseling, VLC, etc couldn't.

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