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  • #61
    And are you happy being this way?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
      And are you happy being this way?
      For the most part yes but then again I am Irish.

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      • #63
        Sorry I don't know what that means.
        Wanting to change is part of it yes, but its not the only thing that is going to stop most people.
        I hope at least for families sake you can stop. My dad has been a drunk for over 30 years, yes he manages to work and function, and I know he will never stop. It was not pleasant growing up with a father like that. Anyway. Good luck with it.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
          Sorry I don't know what that means.
          Wanting to change is part of it yes, but its not the only thing that is going to stop most people.
          I hope at least for families sake you can stop. My dad has been a drunk for over 30 years, yes he manages to work and function, and I know he will never stop. It was not pleasant growing up with a father like that. Anyway. Good luck with it.
          It means it is part of who I am. I will not do anything to hurt my son so at the first hint that my habit is causing him harm I will make the necessary changes.

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          • #65
            Being Irish does not make you an alcoholic. If by co-incedence you are an alcoholic and Irish, you probably aren't happy.
            Life. Be in it.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by whitebear View Post
              It means it is part of who I am. I will not do anything to hurt my son so at the first hint that my habit is causing him harm I will make the necessary changes.
              sorry but basing what I remember from growing up with my dad, he had no idea who he was hurting while he was drinking. Do you not think him seeing you drunk (or does he never?) wont be hurting him? kids aren't silly, they see what is going on even if you think not.
              I really do wish you all the best, honestly.
              Last edited by Ayla2010; 02-02-2013, 01:31 AM.

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              • #67
                Well I guess everyone is done with this thread but, what the hell,

                whitebear I was with you that in a sense, it's as simple as stopping, insofar as the actual stopping is incredibly difficult. I don't know anything about nutritionally/supplementally-based "cures" for addictions, but I have family members who have overcome addictions, are struggling with addictions currently, and have died from addictions. The only approach I'm familiar with is getting the person in a controlled environment, whether that's as simple as not letting them buy a bottle of wine everyday, or sending them to a rehab center. In either case it's only a solution until they buy the next bottle or use the next needle. There's no way to fix a relationship to heroin that involves heroin. Maybe it's not the same for alcohol, but for everyone, i.e. could it really be the case that there's no such thing as "once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic"?

                I can understand that someone saying it all comes back to you needing to make up your mind not to do it is offensive. But an addict is, in a sense, weak-willed with respect to their chosen poison. It's not a value judgment. On the flip side, the notion that an addiction could be cured nutritionally can also be seen as belittling the problem. I mean what should a heroin addict have done differently to save his life?

                So whitebear it strikes me when you say you'll stop at the first hint that it's hurting your son. In my experience addicts usually can't help but hurt the people they love. If you really can, then that's great. I don't know anything about you, or you son, and I'm not picking a fight, but I wonder if you could be causing him hurt already and without realizing it.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by whitebear View Post
                  It means it is part of who I am. I will not do anything to hurt my son so at the first hint that my habit is causing him harm I will make the necessary changes.
                  Self-deception is one of the hallmarks of an alcoholic. What is the problem...I am not hurting anyone but myself? All the while the ones who love them the most are being slowly destroyed in the most painful way imaginable.

                  Whitebear, keep on drinking if you want to. But PLEASE stop thinking that it is not hurting your son. You are damaging him for life.

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                  • #69
                    This is one of my old habits that keeps tempting me. It's hard when you git friends that looks so happy while drinking. What do you guys do to resist it?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Woodriff.Dison View Post
                      This is one of my old habits that keeps tempting me. It's hard when you git friends that looks so happy while drinking. What do you guys do to resist it?
                      Think it all the way through and be honest. Are you going to have just a few drinks, be jolly and make sure you are sober before you drive home? Or, are you going to get totally drunk and/or black-out and endanger yourself and/or others, even if you promised yourself you were only going to have a few drinks? How will you feel the next morning? Full of regret and remorse that it happened again even though you were fully committed to not let it happen? Will you be in a panic because you can't remember how you got home? Will you rush out to your garage with head banging and sick stomach to make sure you did not side-swipe anybody? Yes, think it all the way through carefully and honestly.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                        These 2 are just too much, I am sorry they are harassing you too Rasputina.
                        Will you stop mentioning me every chance you get? This is an indirect form of harassment and I've reported you to the admins, called the cops, went on a daytime talk show, joined a support group, and filed a restraining order.

                        Newsflash, it can't be harassment if you keep bringing it up and replying to everything we post, because, in essence, aren't you harassing us in the first place? Also, it's the internet, you never have to see anything we post if you don't want to. I would never even reply to you, if you wouldn't mention mine or Zach's name and clearly antagonize us in arguments, because I find you particularly boring and lacking insight and anything worthy of a decent conversation, so this is pretty funny. Get over yourself.
                        Last edited by Derpamix; 02-02-2013, 08:53 AM.
                        Make America Great Again

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                        • #72
                          zach = derpamix

                          look at the patterns when they jump on the same threads

                          and same blatantly obvious attempts to get a rise

                          just go away now. pathetic

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                          • #73
                            and to restate the obvious...if you join a forum derpamix and zach, just to provoke everyone

                            get a fucking life. seriously

                            watching everyone try like you seriously, and treat you in the spirit of this polite forum, maddening. just get. a. life.

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                            • #74
                              BOY I SURE GOT TOLD BY THIS WHITE KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR

                              Seriously, dude, before you attempt to look any more foolish by trying to play forum hero, read over my original posts. I even received PM's from people apologizing for the way I was attacked on the OP's behalf in this thread, because they genuinely thought I offered helpful advice. People are stubborn and close-minded. If you take this as provoking, you haven't seen anything.
                              Make America Great Again

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                              • #75
                                I guess I better have a diet of eggs, pig fat, bacon, butter, muscle meat and avocados then I can say whatever I want around here and it won't be provoking and I won't need to get a life because I'll be part of the fat adapted secret club.

                                I guess this about sums everything you said up.
                                Make America Great Again

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