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  • #16
    Originally posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
    Close..."Because it would hurt more you twit!"

    Alan Rickman in Robin Hood Prince of Theives.
    I got that reference.

    To the OP, I'm afraid I can't sympathize. I started buying the exact bacon that you refer to (Applegate Farms Uncured Sunday Bacon) because of concerns about nitrates. After I found out that the regular bacon nitrates might not be as terrible, since you're still getting nitrates from the "uncured" stuff, just in a different form, I still bought Applegate because I prefer the taste!
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    • #17
      TJs bacon isn't all that pricey. Shit, it costs less than conventional "premium" bacon. We usually get our bacon at costco. It's organic and works out to about $4 a pound.

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      • #18
        I go to local meat processors as I find them around here, because SOMEBODY needs to create the demand so local, small, moving-towards-truly-sustainable shops stay open or perhaps even increase in number. For that I will pay a bit more and stay the hell out of Walmart. I have four kids and a hubby, so I get the cost thing - we ain't independently wealthy either.

        We get the bacon ends and pieces, which are much cheaper, because we use bacon mostly in cooking, and for a price that does fit into our budget, we can have bacon more often that way. And the perfectly cut strip thing means little to us.

        We do not find Oscar Meyer or Walmart brands to be better tasting.
        I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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        • #19
          Melissa and Dallas over at Whole9 have a pretty good article about pork:

          The Conscientious Omnivore: Pork | Whole9 | Let us change your life.

          My tuppensworth here: It's really really hard to find "good" pork (as Melissa says, 97% of pork comes from one of those horrific CAFO operations) anywhere in the US. Even the "expensive" stuff in Whole Paycheck and other places. They may be labeled organic but all that really means most of the time is that they were fed organic soy / grains, but still in those confined cages. And yes, there isn't all that much difference in taste.

          What you want to seek out is actual pastured pork. For instance, in San Francisco I go to 4505 Meats for pastured pork bacon. Now with honest to gods pastured pork you better believe you can taste the difference. It's bloody amazing. When the pigs can go out and forage for acorns and roots and whatnot, it really makes a difference in how they taste.

          But I'd argue much more important than taste, for gods sake people don't buy products from factory farms. Pig farms in particular are extremely nasty places. For the local and global environment, for the critters themselves and for the toxin laden meat they produce.

          And I'm also in the camp that thinks bacon should be a treat, not a staple food.

          But I couldn't sum it up as well as, again, the Whole9 duo. I'd also recommend reading their bacon manifesto:

          The Bacon Manifesto | Whole9 | Let us change your life.
          Apathy is tyranny's greatest ally.

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          • #20
            I consider bacon to be a treat precisely because it is so difficult/expensive to find non-CAFO bacon. And avoiding CAFO meat is incredibly important to me. Also, I've never been able to find typical grocery store bacon or sausage that doesn't have added sugar or even, yikes, MSG (was once at a Safeway and literally could not find a sausage that did not contain MSG--it was shocking).

            The local farmer's markets have pastured bacon, and maybe once a month I'll get a bit of it. So bacon is definitely an occasional treat food, not something I eat every day or even every week.

            I think everyone just needs to make the choices that align with their priorities, and decide what those priorities are for themselves.

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            • #21
              What's all this about nitrates not being the enemy?

              Also, stay the heck away from MalWart. Ugh.

              M.

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              • #22
                I cringe at sounding hoity-toity here, but I haven't stepped foot in Wal-Mart in over a year and even then it was an emergency.

                If I can in any way assist the local, ethical bacon producers, I will do so. And they sell in many grocery stores in my area thank goodness, and I can even order right to my home if I wish. Maybe look into some sort of delivery program in your area? Some quick research will surely yield some better results than Oscar Mayer
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                • #23
                  I plan my (stupidly small) budget around buying bacon from the Earth Fare down the street from me. Its only slightly more expensive than the stuff at Kroger, but it tastes soooo much better to me! Maybe its how they cure it, but Earth Fare bacon is really high on my priority list!

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                  • #24
                    OP, maybe look for pieces. I found them at a local grocery store for $1.49/lb. They're not pretty and uniform like the bacon packaged by the major companies, and I found them looking at other pork (IOW, they weren't by the brand name bacon). There are some full sized strips, but a lot are smaller pieces (like half slices).

                    Off hand, I think in my lifetime, the two ongodly raises in prices on food have been for bacon and chicken wings. I'm not knocking supply and demand, but thankfully neither of those foods is a favorite of mine. I use bacon as a seasoning mostly, and I've been "buffalo-ing" thighs since the advent of Buffalo Wings raised the price of wings so steeply. (Really, they used to be so cheap, you could buy them for your pets.)

                    If I prorate the price of a 12 oz package of bacon to a pound price, where I live at least, I can buy grass fed beef shanks for the same price. No way I'd choose the bacon in that situation.
                    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                      OP, maybe look for pieces. I found them at a local grocery store for $1.49/lb. They're not pretty and uniform like the bacon packaged by the major companies, and I found them looking at other pork (IOW, they weren't by the brand name bacon). There are some full sized strips, but a lot are smaller pieces (like half slices).

                      Off hand, I think in my lifetime, the two ongodly raises in prices on food have been for bacon and chicken wings. I'm not knocking supply and demand, but thankfully neither of those foods is a favorite of mine. I use bacon as a seasoning mostly, and I've been "buffalo-ing" thighs since the advent of Buffalo Wings raised the price of wings so steeply. (Really, they used to be so cheap, you could buy them for your pets.)

                      If I prorate the price of a 12 oz package of bacon to a pound price, where I live at least, I can buy grass fed beef shanks for the same price. No way I'd choose the bacon in that situation.
                      I can't believe the price of chicken wings. It sucks because I love chicken wings(maybe too much).

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                      • #26
                        Fun fact. I read the other day that approximately 1.2 Billion pounds of chicken wings will be eaten on Superbowl Sunday.

                        WorldPoultry - 1.2 billion chicken wings eaten during US super bowl

                        And really, even though I'm kind of an antique, I remember chicken wings for about 10-29cents/pound. My grandmother used to grind them up for her poodle.
                        "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                        B*tch-lite

                        Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                        • #27
                          I'd rather eat 2-3 slices of Nueske's bacon than a pound of generic.
                          I would have said 'North Country Smokehouse' before the Holidays but a family taste-test proved otherwise.

                          Eat what you like. Ignore all other input-including this post. :-)
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                          • #28
                            Yeah, chicken wings are awfully and unjustifiably overpriced!

                            Re. bacon,
                            I think it should depend on how much and how often you eat it. For me it's too messy and too much trouble to cook it (and honestly nothing exciting taste-wise), so I maybe have bacon once a month if that. Not eating breakfast might have something to do with that, too. Because of that I'm not too picky on the source.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
                              +2. Maybe read up on sustainable ag v. CAFO bullshit. Happens to be pretty important to me. But then again, the idea of stepping foot in a Wal-Mart is about as appealing to me as digging my heart out with a rusty spoon.
                              Originally posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
                              Why a spoon cousin, why not an axe?
                              Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
                              Because that would be quicker and less painful.
                              Originally posted by justyouraveragecavemen View Post
                              Close..."Because it would hurt more you twit!"

                              Alan Rickman in Robin Hood Prince of Theives.
                              Ahhh... I love the truth.

                              And all of my love for the day for a Rickman quote to get us there!
                              Last edited by cori93437; 01-31-2013, 03:07 PM.
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                              • #30
                                One of the best things about bacon to me is the wonderful cooking fat that is left after making some. It withstands some fairly high heat for searing and it adds a nice flavor. Hmmm, chicken wings fried in bacon fat. Might have to give that a try.
                                Last edited by whitebear; 01-31-2013, 03:22 PM.

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