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Breast milk supply vs demand, formula, solid food---for 6-month old baby

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
    Not until after 1 no. But he still fed many times a day.
    I am thinking Zoe means sole, as in no formula or other milks. I am certain she wouldn't mean no food up until 8.
    I have taken it as a sole food source. I am sure that Zoes will qualify this for us thou.
    Anyway I am raping this poor mans thread which I never intended to do.
    I had to use a breast pump for 5 weeks when our 9 week early baby was born, and it can diminish your supply, however with a good pump and the right attitude the op will do what is right for them.... good luck
    "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

    ...small steps....

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    • #32
      yes I think he has been bombarded with info now LOL.
      Yep I am sure Zoe will clarify

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      • #33
        G how long after your preemie was born were they able to attach? Just curious as had no experience with premature babies.
        I gather once you were feeding them off you your supply sorted itself out?

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        • #34
          The little 9 week early took about 4 weeks to latch, but at 3 lb birth weight, still too little. She fiddled around with the nipple for a week or two, but really established at 6 weeks. Once she was on properly it was all go, however 2 hourly feeds for the following year became a little tiring - I have to say !!!!!!!
          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

          ...small steps....

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          • #35
            Oh I bet

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            • #36
              I agree with others that supply will increase if demand increases (provided diet is healthy, etc.). Her body probably just thinks it's producing enough even though the two of you would like it to produce more! She'll have to pump more frequently OR figure out a way to breast feed to get the supply up. Most hospitals have free lactation consultants that can help with latching AND pumping. I would try that! I remember being concerned about my supply when I BF my son, but really the body catches up after just a couple days of increased demand.
              I would not add formula... especially if you are both primal!
              And I second the notion that breast milk will make up the primary caloric intake of a baby under 1. Of course you have to watch for their cues + give as many solid foods as their interested in, but I find that many babies are just playing & practice eating... no need to rush into it if baby isn't ready to eat a large quantity of solids.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                No way willing???
                Zach, you cannot make a child breastfeed.
                My eldest willingly breastfed until 3 years 3 months. Weaning was easy, we talked about it, and told him we would stop now, he was ok with that.

                Zach what makes you think that anyone long term breastfeeding makes a child do it? We DO follow their lead its why we let them stop when they are OK with it.
                "There is no way a child would willingly drink only breast milk until 3-4, let alone 8."

                Read this again. Im saying a child would not want to drink only breastmilk for that long. He or she would wean themself long before 8. You might be able to give them supplemental breastmilk but Zoey said SOLELY breastmilk.

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                • #38
                  Yes and I don't think that is what she meant, but I am sure she will clarify soon.

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                  • #39
                    pls stop Ayla your obsession with Zach is bordering on creepy
                    Make America Great Again

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                      pls stop Ayla your obsession with Zach is bordering on creepy
                      seriously?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                        seriously?
                        why did you delete the post that told me to piss off? I don't mind being told to piss off you know
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                          why did you delete the post that told me to piss off? I don't mind being told to piss off you know
                          Dont know what you are talking about.
                          Please stop harassing me, please.

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                          • #43
                            ok since you asked nicely I will stop harassing you
                            Make America Great Again

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                            • #44
                              The constant bickering is getting old.

                              I think Ayla and Zack were saying the same thing.

                              It's possible that Zoe was saying that in absence of other food availability a child could survive on breastmilk alone.

                              I think we may have covered this pretty well.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Zach View Post
                                While i think trying to get as much nutrition from breast milk as possible is a great idea and also to try breast feeding again. I dont think its the end of the world if your baby eats a bit of foods as well.
                                Me either.

                                What I think is that

                                A. conventional wisdom/medicine right now encourages breastfeeding (including pumping/feeding) mothers to start solids and wean at 6 mo -- there is no science to support this; and

                                B. baby led/natural weaning processes involve allowing a child showing the signs of readiness (interest in food, ability to sit up on their own, pincer grip) access to food as *experience* not the foundational nutrition. Thus, "bits of food are not going to harm the kiddo." No, definitely not. IN fact, bits of food -- partiuclarly the foods that you normally cook and eat and in the flavor profiles and diversity that your family eats creates the child's palate.

                                So, at that level, it's important.

                                For these parents, I don't know if we are talking about an "age adjusted" 6 months, a 6 months from premie birth, or what. I also don't know if the child is showing readiness signs (she may be), and I also don't know if they parents feel any particular *need* to feed the child food other than the fact that it's "what everyone does" and also what most doctors are telling people to do.

                                My own doctor loves the BLW approach because it is most in alignment with our natural development into foods, the development of our palate, and the development of the proper way to eat food (how to breathe, chew, swallow properly). He thinks that a lot of food issues that children have (texture, food aversions, etc) come not from stubbornness or a psychological issue, but from being introduced to pureed baby foods *far* too early. And, he also knows that feeding the baby food (ie, servings for *nutrition*) decreases and changes milk supply -- so it will have an affect on the mother (including pumping mothers, strangely enough -- because it's not just suckling that creates that supply).


                                There is no harm in giving him a bit of dairy and see how he responds. Along with other safe foods.
                                Agreed. It's also *really* important to know that if you cannot provide breast milk (or find donors. . . I was a donor myself because my supply got so awesome after using the tea), then you don't just move to straight dairy. You actually need to use a form of formula *until age one*. WAPF has recipes using dairy as well as one using bone broths. They are good recipes, so it's an option *if* the need is there.

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