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    Because of hormone related issues I had several tests done. Weirdly my liver enzymes and antibodies came back elevated. I don't drink, at all...so this is weird.
    My doctors suspects Autoimmune Hepatitis (the other Hep. were negative), and thinks I am the type of person to have Autoimmune anything (I have a History of Hashimoto's with TSH often normal, sometimes elevated and a Pituitary Tumor that since shrank and my prolactin levels are normal again.

    I have been taking herbs to solve my hormonal imbalance and they took care of my acne and my PMS got much better, still hoping the hair loss will stop...but since these herbs also detox the liver I thought they may habe something to do with my levels? One year ago my results were in the higher range of normal.
    The herbal supplements I am taking are burdock root, milk thistle, Vitex and DIM.

    Could my diet have to do anything with it? I was on low carb Paleo without noticing I was only consuming about 50g a day. I raised it to 100g for now (it seems hard for my body to digest Icarbs now, I get really bloated).

    My doctor had me come in three times in a row and seems quite concerned. He was even speaking about hospitalizing me if the levels come back any higher? It seems a bit drastic...?

    My results say this:
    P ANCA 1:60
    X ANCA 1:60
    Gamma GT 355+
    GOT ASAT 338 ++
    GPT ALAT 361 ++

    Can anyone shine some light on this?
    Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
    30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
    I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

  • #2
    Mireia,

    I have a lot of experience with this. If you would like to PM we can chat about it.

    My son was having issues w/ post transplant autoimmune hep. recently. Luckily he was healed by the love of God.

    aNYWAY, i'm here of you need me.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Stephanie View Post
      Mireia,

      I have a lot of experience with this. If you would like to PM we can chat about it.

      My son was having issues w/ post transplant autoimmune hep. recently. Luckily he was healed by the love of God.

      aNYWAY, i'm here of you need me.
      Thank you! I don't know how to send PM's here but feel free to send me one. I am using an iPod and it is hard to navigate.
      Did your son eat a primal or paleo diet?
      Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
      30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
      I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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      • #4
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        Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
        30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
        I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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        • #5
          He ate more of a WAPF diet along with both conventional medicine and natural medicine like homeopathy, chiro care, lymph drainage..he eventually got a liver transplant.

          Your immune system has two main parts, t1 and t2, one part is being dominant than the other and that is what causes autoimmune diseases. You need to find a doctor that can bring up the less active part of your immune system so they are even, not one being more active than the other...

          It's hard to explain.

          If you do have an autoimmune disease the herbs can be causing more harm. For instance: the herb you take can be feeding the more active part of your immune system, which will be fueling the autoimmune disease. I would stay away from all herbs until you figure it out.

          Did you get a liver biopsy? That is the sure way to confirm if you have the autoimmune hep.

          Your levels are very high. Higher than when my son was in late stage liver failure, so I see why he's so concerned.

          I also know of people who have contracted (even child whose mom gave her "dirty" herbs) autoimmune hep. from herbs being "dirty". I guess they can really cause big problems with the liver if they are contaminated and not treated properly.

          Let me know if you have any more questions.

          I also recommend looking into the healing codes. I have a big group of friends who do it and many have cured many types of diseases. Google/youtube it.

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          • #6
            Thank you for your answer!
            My levels seem to keep improving. I had some more tests done and my doctors giess now is that whatever had caused the problem might be healing up.
            I will have to test often though to make sure it does not go up and down.

            Are you sure it is liver failure? Maybe the units used in Europe are different? Wouldn't I be feeling bad then?

            Is there a way to tell if the herbs do more harm than good? I am reluctant about stopping because they have improved my other problems drastically. Even my thyroid is doing better now. My skin is extremely clear and glowing, so I took that as a good sign too.

            I haven't gotten a liver biopsy so far. I will see what my doctor thinks about it.
            Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
            30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
            I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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            • #7
              Yes, liver herbs can raise your liver enzymes, because of the increased liver activity. My mom is an RN, but works from home doing the herbal thing now. She says the herbs will increase them and let's people know that ahead of time if they are getting tested.

              The doctors is only going to tell you it's bad, but he has no training in actual *healing* unless he has educated himself outside of his schooling.
              Last edited by AshleyL; 02-05-2013, 08:04 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AshleyL View Post
                Yes, liver herbs can raise your liver enzymes, because of the increased liver activity. My mom is an RN, but works from home doing the herbal thing now. She says the herbs will increase them and let's people know that ahead of time if they are getting tested.

                The doctors is only going to tell you it's bad, but he has no training in actual *healing* unless he has educated himself outside of his schooling.
                So that means the elevated liver enzymes are not really a bad sign then? Or can it still be dangerous?
                Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
                30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
                I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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                • #9
                  Work with your doctor! The liver is nothing to mess with. I, too, have Hashi's, and I'm sure you know that anyone with one autoimmune disease is a candidate for others.

                  Did you tell the doctor about the herbs you've been taking? They can surely skew your tests results, and the doctor needs to know about this.

                  You only have one liver, and it's essential for life. This is nothing to mess around with.

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                  • #10
                    Emmie
                    I did tell the doctor and he said it was fine.
                    Not sure if he knows it can affect the test result. I am certainly not risking anything and I have been seeing my doctor for frequent tests. It is just since my levels went down he is less worried now
                    Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
                    30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
                    I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mireia View Post
                      So that means the elevated liver enzymes are not really a bad sign then? Or can it still be dangerous?
                      I fully believe it's not a bad sign. But how would someone prove one way or another? I've seen people with organ problems get better with herbs, so I believe they are beneficial. Thus the laboratory changes that come with them, I reason must be a sign of the work they are doing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by AshleyL View Post
                        I fully believe it's not a bad sign. But how would someone prove one way or another? I've seen people with organ problems get better with herbs, so I believe they are beneficial. Thus the laboratory changes that come with them, I reason must be a sign of the work they are doing.
                        Yes, that is what I assumed too! I get blood drawn on the 11th to see if it lowered even more.
                        Currently eating strict Paleo, no rice or potatoes. I want to increase carbs and make sure my ratio of carbs, protein and fat is right for me.
                        30, 5'5" and 108 lbs (formerly 100 lbs)
                        I don't work out but I chase and nurse a toddler all day

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