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  • Originally posted by whitebear View Post
    Superior is relative. Put a man and a tiger in an empty cage and find out who is superior then. It's true that humans are superior at many things but we are near the bottom when it comes to pure physical ability.
    Yes, but give both the man and the tiger a gun (which man invented, not the tiger), and I'm guessing the man has a better chance. I think the fact that we dominate even though we're not superior in one facet, i.e., brute strength, kind of proves that we are superior over all. But it comes with responsibility. In that, we are lacking. I don't think the tiger thinks about responsibility at all.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

    B*tch-lite

    Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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    • Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
      I certainly hope not. By the time I'm done with this body I hope to put it in the ground, w/o a toxic mix of chemicals. Just in the plain dirt, and let the worms feast, or as per my avatar above ground and let the vultures and ravens enjoy my flesh.
      That's pretty hardcore. I at least would like a plain wooden box so the people burying me don't have to drive up a mountain with a dead body flopping around in the back of the car.

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      • Originally posted by Stephanie View Post
        Huh? Did you come up with this philosophy? Never heard of it before. Lol.
        A lot of people haven't. It's part of the Stoic Philosophy. A philosophy of life started by the Greeks and refined by the Romans. It's not for everyone, but I thought that tidbit might be useful to you.
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        Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

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        • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
          A lot of people haven't. It's part of the Stoic Philosophy. A philosophy of life started by the Greeks and refined by the Romans. It's not for everyone, but I thought that tidbit might be useful to you.
          Nope not at all.

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          • And I'm not narrow minded, I'm a loving person with a big heart. Just because we disagree does not make me narrow minded.

            Peace and love
            I think once you expanded on your beliefs you painted yourself with a more reasonable and defendable voice. But your initial statement sounded like someone purposefully trying to sound like a jerk.... in fact with such a callous viewpoint, that it almost sounded ridiculous. Kind of the way PETA would LOVE to see proponents of meat eating act and speak.

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            • This is a weird thread.

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              • Originally posted by Kata View Post
                This is a weird thread.
                Welcome to MDA?
                http://cattaillady.com/ My blog exploring the beginning stages of learning how to homestead. With the occasional rant.

                Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

                And now I have an Etsy store: CattailsandCalendula

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                • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
                  Welcome to MDA?
                  Haha! That's why I love it here.

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                  • A lot of people haven't. It's part of the Stoic Philosophy. A philosophy of life started by the Greeks and refined by the Romans. It's not for everyone, but I thought that tidbit might be useful to you.
                    Nope not at all.
                    Not narrow-minded in the slightest, this one.

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                    • We are all flesh to somebody or something and finally we are all eaten, by worms, microorganisms, chemical breakdowns or devoured by the fire. Also the plants tries to protect themselves against herbivores. Eat and finally be eaten yourself, that’s how the world works…
                      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                      - Schopenhauer

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                      • Originally posted by heatseeker View Post
                        Not narrow-minded in the slightest, this one.
                        Funny thing- the Stoics were pretty much beaten out by the Christians. Their ideas about how to live well were very, very similar, but the philosophers couldn't offer the eternal grace at the end of it like the religion could.
                        http://cattaillady.com/ My blog exploring the beginning stages of learning how to homestead. With the occasional rant.

                        Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

                        And now I have an Etsy store: CattailsandCalendula

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                        • Originally posted by Stephanie View Post
                          So now I don't respect animals? Because I said humans are superior to them?
                          This was not my take on it. My take on your statement is that you denied the animal-nature of humans. We are animals, we are part of nature, as well as having big brains and technology that makes us highly successful creatures on this planet (that also creates a lot of destruction).

                          I don't eat animals because I am "superior" to them. I eat animals because, as an animal, my biology/body dictates that requirement -- just as a lion must eat and a cow must eat and every other kind of creature that is an animal must eat.

                          There's nothing wrong with needing to eat.

                          From there, as human beings -- our nature also to be thoughtful and develop technology etc -- we can decide how we want to procure our foods, and like you, I choose farmed animals who are treated in a way that we feel is most appropriate/healthy for them, for us, and the planet.

                          None of this is about 'superiority' over anything.

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                          • I wonder how many different species would feel they are superior to humans, if they could talk and communicate such a thought. Of course, cats already do.

                            I often don't understand the superiority complex humans have as higher functioning life forms. We have a religious doctrine that states we were created in God's image and given dominion over the Earth (though the proper translation is stewardship). This alone creates a separation from animals, and reading the first mentions that humans were indeed animals and the persecution that those intellectuals suffered, it's easy to see how these thoughts remain today.

                            Why claim we are not animals by pointing to behaviors that humans would exhibit were it not for our norms and standards of civilization? We fight and kill to protect territory, be that physical or ideological territory. We propogate our species. We suffer from the same needs to eat, sleep, and have sex. Anything other than that is just filler for the 70-90 years that we expect to be on this Earth.

                            Separate our thoughts of immortality and existence beyond this realm, we are very much animals. And even that may be in question because we lack proper communication to know whether other animals have any form of belief system.

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                            • LOL, the OP has not posted for ages, they are probably sitting back grinning about how we are all arguing with each other about this.

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                              • I don't really give a shit what the OP wants to do with her life - but I think a lot of "moral" vegans have low self esteem issues. They don't seem to care enough about themselves to "cover their bases" nutritionally. Even if you don't ever want to eat meat again, if you won't eat eggs (that are not fertilized, and can be bought from good farms with happy hens) or oysters, etc, because one is an animal product and the other one "may" be an animal (technically isn't) then you're just a fool that doesn't really care about nutrition at all.

                                I believe in the importance of meat in ones diet, but also believe you can be pretty well fed if you exclude all of it but include some eggs, some cheeses and/or full fat dairy, some shellfish, etc and take care not to eat junk. My gf's brother is basically going down this road, and that's all I told him.
                                I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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