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  • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
    I'm pretty sure you know what Stephanie meant. There is a difference between technically being an animal and 'acting like an animal' (generally with a negative connotation). This is not to say that all animals are bad or all humans are good, but the distinction is there and nit-picking over semantics is lame.

    Yeah that...

    Okay I get the science and biology part. Gosh.

    But no I'm not an animal. I don't pee outside, nor do I lick my hoochie for bath time. I don't sniff butts to say hello, or eat grass from a field.

    If you wanna be an animal, good for you. I will be a woman, who takes showers, shaves, wears a little makeup, and worships Jesus, and enjoys things like a bed, and a glass of wine, and all the other stuff us humans do.

    BTW, I'm very stubborn, you will never convince me...

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    • I think though, that the attitude that animals are just food are what has led to such inhumane (and unhealthy) methods of producing food. We raise chickens in such bad conditions that they need drugs to survive to slaughter..... We've gotten to "anything goes" in terms of raising meat that we are beginning to produce a poor quality product that also has a very negative impact on the environment.

      To be fair, I don't think people think about where their food comes from, and farming is a hard way to make a living. But it would behoove us to remember that animals can indeed suffer from mental and physical pain during their existence and not just view them as inanimate meat factories. And, we have much to gain, healthwise, from allowing them a natural existence.

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      • You may be stubborn......but that doesn't mean you're not an animal, sweetie. Humans fit the biological description even if they don't all do the things you mention.
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        • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
          To be fair, I don't think people think about where their food comes from, and farming is a hard way to make a living. But it would behoove us to remember that animals can indeed suffer from mental and physical pain during their existence and not just view them as inanimate meat factories. And, we have much to gain, healthwise, from allowing them a natural existence.
          Agreed. I just stop agreeing when someone (not you) suggests that due to animals being lovely, fluffy, wonderful creatures I am a douche for eating them. I'm a douche for plenty of reasons - that isn't one

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          • But no I'm not an animal. I don't pee outside, nor do I lick my hoochie for bath time. I don't sniff butts to say hello, or eat grass from a field.
            Can you accept though that animals can feel pain, boredom, companionship etc.?
            I mean, hell, there are plenty of people who pee outside, and a lot of men and women that would love the ability to lick their own genitals as a means to pass time.

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            • Originally posted by janie View Post
              You may be stubborn......but that doesn't mean you're not an animal, sweetie. Humans fit the biological description even if they don't all do the things you mention.
              And What is that?

              We also fit the biological description of poop, being that the same bacteria and organisms that live in a tird also live in us. So are we tirds too?

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              • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                Can you accept though that animals can feel pain, boredom, companionship etc.?
                I mean, hell, there are plenty of people who pee outside, and a lot of men and women that would love the ability to lick their own genitals as a means to pass time.
                Yes of course. And lol, if that makes them happy...lick away.

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                • I think though, that the attitude that animals are just food are what has led to such inhumane (and unhealthy) methods of producing food. We raise chickens in such bad conditions that they need drugs to survive to slaughter..... We've gotten to "anything goes" in terms of raising meat that we are beginning to produce a poor quality product that also has a very negative impact on the environment.
                  I agree, and I think that mental distancing of humans from animals is just as harmful as the complete removal of humans from the food chain propagated by vegans. I also think that anyone who's spent any length of time camping/hiking/doing survivalist adventures in the great outdoors has a very healthy respect and acceptance of human being as animals. We may be smart enough to build ourselves cell phones and wash our hands after we poop, but we're still part of the animal kingdom.

                  We also fit the biological description of poop, being that the same bacteria and organisms that live in a tird also live in us. So are we tirds too?
                  You're joking, right? You can't be serious.

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                  • Google "Are humans animals?"
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                    • Originally posted by Stephanie View Post
                      And What is that?

                      We also fit the biological description of poop, being that the same bacteria and organisms that live in a tird also live in us. So are we tirds too?
                      So, if she weighs the same as a duck, then she's made of wood. And therefore... A WITCH!
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                      • Originally posted by BONZ View Post
                        There are no "Primal instincts" which lead any omnivore to veganism.... only unassisted human reason could do that (and at the same time create new problems that you must labor to solve). Nothing about veganism is innate to humans. It requires an academic exercise for one to arrive at it. Just one more reason why I don't ignore my instincts <... smells bacon, must investigate....>
                        Great apologetic there.

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                        • Discovery Kids :: Tell Me - Are humans considered animals?

                          OK. Then you must be a plant?
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                          • Originally posted by Stephanie View Post
                            We also fit the biological description of poop, being that the same bacteria and organisms that live in a tird also live in us. So are we tirds too?
                            I've known some people that should be described that way . . .

                            I am an animal, I respect animals, and I also find them delicious. Of course, given the chance, I also pee outside, so I might not be the best example
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                            • Actually I get what your trying to say Stephanie. In a sentience capacity and in the realm of the being top of the food chain you are correct....we are "superior" to other animals.

                              But to define yourself as not an animal is what leads us to many contradictory views in the health field. To suppose that our systems are so vastly different simply due to our "superiority" is what gets us into trouble. I actually think that is the disconnect here. Not that you don't recognize these things, but in the semantics here.
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                              • Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                                Actually I get what your trying to say Stephanie. In a sentience capacity and in the realm of the being top of the food chain you are correct....we are "superior" to other animals.

                                But to define yourself as not an animal is what leads us to many contradictory views in the health field. To suppose that our systems are so vastly different simply due to our "superiority" is what gets us into trouble. I actually think that is the disconnect here.
                                Agreed.
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