Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Why can't I look like Mark Sisson!?!?!

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #91
    Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
    If that is the case, he does not spread the word in a very convincing or respectful way. Becoming overly defensive or aggressive is not the way to share an agenda. For the record, I don't eat low carb. In Mark Sisson's charts, I would be at a moderate carb level.
    I found Choco's posts defensive and aggressive at first but now I have the context to understand the reason why - the resistance from low-carb fundamentalists.

    I find your recent comments on this thread equally aggressive and certainly far less rational in comparison to Choco's. Choco has an excellent handle on the science, and that matters, whether you like it or not.
    F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

    Comment


    • #92
      Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
      You are very, very smart. I like you

      People will swear that low carbohydrate diets don't elevate stress. When you are constantly breaking down lean mass to create the glucose necessary to fuel your brain, I beg to differ. Get your cortisol, adrenaline, serotonin and blood CO2 levels checked. I mean c'mon, we're obsessed about our HDL's and triglycerides around here right? Suddenly adding 4 little things to the list is too much? I bet your first 3 will be high and your CO2 will be in the low 20's


      Yeah, I agree, since stress hormones are interconnected and promote each other in cycles, and loops, it causes nothing but prolonged degeneration.
      Make America Great Again

      Comment


      • #93
        Originally posted by paleo-bunny View Post
        I found Choco's posts defensive and aggressive at first but now I have the context to understand the reason why - the resistance from low-carb fundamentalists.

        I find your recent comments on this thread equally aggressive and certainly far less rational in comparison to Choco's. Choco has an excellent handle on the science, and that matters, whether you like it or not.
        Yeah but do you think that telling those of us that our experiences are wrong is OK?

        Comment


        • #94
          Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
          I am not interested in causing more stress to myself by going to the Dr and get numbers checked. I would if I stopped feeling good, or was always tired or whatever.
          But I do feel good, and can sleep etc etc among all the other things i mentioned recently. Does this look like my body is suffering, seriously?
          This is just irresponsibility. I don't think anyone can take you seriously at all anymore after this statement. You don't need to go to a doctor to a get a lab test, btw.

          Some symptoms are only noticeable after they accumulate over time.
          Make America Great Again

          Comment


          • #95
            Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
            This is just irresponsibility. I don't think anyone can take you seriously at all anymore after this statement. You don't need to go to a doctor to a get a lab test, btw.

            Some symptoms are only noticeable after they accumulate over time.
            Um here in Aus you do. But thanks.
            Its not irresponsible. Sick people go to the Dr, I feel perfectly fine. If I don't, then yes I will go.
            Geez.

            Comment


            • #96
              Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
              You are very, very smart. I like you

              People will swear that low carbohydrate diets don't elevate stress. When you are constantly breaking down lean mass to create the glucose necessary to fuel your brain, I beg to differ. Get your cortisol, adrenaline, serotonin and blood CO2 levels checked. I mean c'mon, we're obsessed about our HDL's and triglycerides around here right? Suddenly adding 4 little things to the list is too much? I bet your first 3 will be high and your CO2 will be in the low 20's
              Because of my particular health issues and medications I have my CO2 tested regularly (bi-monthly to tri-monthly when I see my doc I have to hit the vampires too).
              The normal range for CO2 is 23-29 mEq/L.
              I always test in the 25-28 range... hardly "low".
              My neurologist is very happy.

              I'd be willing to bet that my cortisol, adrenaline, serotonin are just fine too.
              BTW, do you know the symptoms that you will generally be showing if your serotonin is high enough to test high, or who your doctor will be referring you to? Just askin.
              Last edited by cori93437; 01-21-2013, 02:05 PM.
              “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
              ~Friedrich Nietzsche
              And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

              Comment


              • #97
                Oh, and severe bloating from a specific macronutrient isn't a sign to you that you're not as fine as you claim to feel?

                And, no you don't. You can order kits online. I'm staring at mine right here.
                Make America Great Again

                Comment


                • #98
                  Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                  Oh, and severe bloating from a specific macronutrient isn't a sign to you that you're not as fine as you claim to feel?

                  And, no you don't. You can order kits online. I'm staring at mine right here.
                  OK show me a link for a site that I can use here in Australia.
                  I have looked before.
                  Woman get bloated plenty, do you know anything about womans cycles?
                  Yes i feel like I also got bloated after the pumpkin and sweet potato the other night, but it was temporary and feel much better now.
                  So yeah, sick of explaining. This is right for me. That is all that matters to me.

                  Comment


                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                    OK show me a link for a site that I can use here in Australia.
                    I have looked before.
                    Woman get bloated plenty, do you know anything about womans cycles?
                    Yes i feel like I also got bloated after the pumpkin and sweet potato the other night, but it was temporary and feel much better now.
                    So yeah, sick of explaining. This is right for me. That is all that matters to me.
                    Pretty sure lef.org will ship to Australia. I don't know, your customs are jacked up.
                    Make America Great Again

                    Comment


                    • Oh so I can send my blood back to the US?
                      Hmm doubtful. Doesn't matter, am not testing for anything at this stage.
                      BTW I have had blood tests in the past, when I felt like crap eating all those amazing carbs. And every thing was "normal" it was the crappy carbs making me feel bad.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                        Yeah but do you think that telling those of us that our experiences are wrong is OK?
                        I don't interpret Choco's posts as telling you that your experience is wrong. I'm sure he would agree with you that eating low-fat for 13 years wrecks your metabolism. I certainly do. You're experiences aren't wrong - there are obvious scientific explanations why and I haven't seen Choco claim otherwise.

                        He is merely advocating healthier alternatives to eating low-carb long-term, for those who can. And that those who have healed their metabolism can move up to moderate carbs or even high carbs for better long-term health outcomes.

                        Can you see the irony that a low-carb diet for someone who doesn't need it in the first place is just as unnatural and extreme as the low-fat diets that cause metabolic derangement and require low-carb eating as a cure?
                        F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                          Because of my particular health issues and medications I have my CO2 tested regularly (bi-monthly to tri-monthly when I see my doc I have to hit the vampires too).
                          The normal range for CO2 is 23-29 mEq/L.
                          I always test in the 25-28 range... hardly "low".
                          My neurologist is very happy.

                          I'd be willing to bet that my cortisol, adrenaline, serotonin are just fine too.
                          BTW, do you know the symptoms that you will generally be showing if your serotonin is high enough to test high, or who your doctor will be referring you to? Just askin.
                          Probably the most noticeable symptoms will be mental. Depression, aggression, loss of libido, etc; Serotonin contributes to an increased state of stress hormone elevation, and with tryptophan stimulation it crosses the blood brain barrier.
                          Last edited by Derpamix; 01-21-2013, 02:10 PM.
                          Make America Great Again

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                            Oh so I can send my blood back to the US?
                            Hmm doubtful. Doesn't matter, am not testing for anything at this stage.
                            BTW I have had blood tests in the past, when I felt like crap eating all those amazing carbs. And every thing was "normal" it was the crappy carbs making me feel bad.
                            Huh, what? You use the kits to test yourself lol
                            Make America Great Again

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by paleo-bunny View Post
                              I don't interpret Choco's posts as telling you that your experience is wrong. I'm sure he would agree with you that eating low-fat for 13 years wrecks your metabolism. I certainly do. You're experiences aren't wrong - there are obvious scientific explanations why and I haven't seen Choco claim otherwise.

                              He is merely advocating healthier alternatives to eating low-carb long-term, for those who can. And that those who have healed their metabolism can move up to moderate carbs or even high carbs for better long-term health outcomes.

                              Can you see the irony that a low-carb diet for someone who doesn't need it in the first place is just as unnatural and extreme as the low-fat diets that cause metabolic derangement and require low-carb eating as a cure?
                              He called me a troll and a liar.
                              Yes i know not everyone needs to eat low carb.
                              Yes I know I damaged my body from years of disordered eating. Low carb high fat is what is fixing this.
                              He saids that everyone needs starchy carbs, and he is wrong.

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                                Huh, what? You use the kits to test yourself lol
                                I have seen others mention taking blood and sending it an independent lab. We do not have that facility here, that I was able to find. You must go to the Dr for a referral for a blood test.
                                Are you not talking about blood tests? How can you test all those blood levels yourself?

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X