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  • #16
    Originally posted by ballenparks View Post
    My problem is I can't seem to lose weight past this point! I hope to one day enter a bodybuilding show and reach the pinnacle of my performance. When I was following the standard high carb low fat regiment I got down to 11% body fat but have not been able to do so since.
    I have a question for you, and I'd like an honest answer. Hey, at least be honest with yourself. Let me explain.

    The fattest I've ever been was 226 lbs and almost 30% body fat. Now days I range from around 10-12% body fat all year long. I want to get leaner, but it hasn't happened. And I can explain why.

    To lose all the weight I tried many different strategies and they all worked. I've done low carbs, low fat moderate carbs, intermittent fasting, paleo, and so on. What each and every one of these approaches have in common is that they all some how resulted in a calorie reduction, and I stuck to them long enough to see the results.

    So this is why I know exactly why I haven't gotten any leaner. It was the same thing to get from 220 lbs to 207 lbs, the same to get from 207 lbs to 200 lbs, the same to get from 200 lbs down to 190 lbs, and the same to get from 190 lbs to 175 lbs. Its the same thing every time. Find a way to comfortably reduce calories for a long enough time to see significant results.

    In other words, if I didn't lose any weight further than that its ONLY because I didn't bother to dedicate myself to doing so. I was doing well for a while and got down to 170 lbs at one point. My overall goal is to get down into the lower 160's or what ever I have to in order to get that ripped look.

    But what happened? I ended up having to work 72 hour weeks for a while and my diet had to take a temporary set back, because I just didn't seem to have it in me to organize during that time. So, I ended up getting back to 180 lbs eventually.

    However, I do know exactly what I need to do in order to finally drop the weight. I just have to dedicate myself for several weeks or more and do it.

    So this is the only question I want to ask you. Did you dedicate yourself to reducing calories for several weeks just like you might have done before while on a different style diet? My bet is no. But this is what you have to do. It will work. I promise. Do it for several weeks.

    I tell you what. Try it. And if you come back in 8 weeks with zero progress, I'll eat an entire pizza and ice cream just for you. LOL!!! I don't really want to do that. But I'm just saying that's how confident I am that it will work.

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    • #17
      Mark has been an athlete his whole life, being primal improved his health but he has spent years sculpting that physique before be thought of MDA. You can't just dive into primal and expect to look like that. It takes time and discipline.
      F 28/5'4/100 lbs

      "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ripped View Post
        I have a question for you, and I'd like an honest answer. Hey, at least be honest with yourself. Let me explain.

        The fattest I've ever been was 226 lbs and almost 30% body fat. Now days I range from around 10-12% body fat all year long. I want to get leaner, but it hasn't happened. And I can explain why.

        To lose all the weight I tried many different strategies and they all worked. I've done low carbs, low fat moderate carbs, intermittent fasting, paleo, and so on. What each and every one of these approaches have in common is that they all some how resulted in a calorie reduction, and I stuck to them long enough to see the results.

        So this is why I know exactly why I haven't gotten any leaner. It was the same thing to get from 220 lbs to 207 lbs, the same to get from 207 lbs to 200 lbs, the same to get from 200 lbs down to 190 lbs, and the same to get from 190 lbs to 175 lbs. Its the same thing every time. Find a way to comfortably reduce calories for a long enough time to see significant results.

        In other words, if I didn't lose any weight further than that its ONLY because I didn't bother to dedicate myself to doing so. I was doing well for a while and got down to 170 lbs at one point. My overall goal is to get down into the lower 160's or what ever I have to in order to get that ripped look.

        But what happened? I ended up having to work 72 hour weeks for a while and my diet had to take a temporary set back, because I just didn't seem to have it in me to organize during that time. So, I ended up getting back to 180 lbs eventually.

        However, I do know exactly what I need to do in order to finally drop the weight. I just have to dedicate myself for several weeks or more and do it.

        So this is the only question I want to ask you. Did you dedicate yourself to reducing calories for several weeks just like you might have done before while on a different style diet? My bet is no. But this is what you have to do. It will work. I promise. Do it for several weeks.

        I tell you what. Try it. And if you come back in 8 weeks with zero progress, I'll eat an entire pizza and ice cream just for you. LOL!!! I don't really want to do that. But I'm just saying that's how confident I am that it will work.
        This.

        It is entirely caloric. Mark looks the way he does for a lot of reasons:

        1.) He doesn't eat a lot of food. He says it himself.

        The main thing I’ve figured out from eating this way for years is that I don’t need nearly as many calories to maintain health, mass, and body fat as I once thought I did – or as the Conventional Wisdom says I do. I eat 600-1000 calories per day less than when I ate a carbohydrate-based diet, yet I maintain slightly lower body fat and slightly higher muscle mass on even less training.
        How to Eat According to the Primal Blueprint | Mark's Daily Apple

        This is sort of misleading because he used to be a world class marathon runner and, simply put, required a lot more calories than he does now that he doesn't run hundreds of miles each month, but he attributes a lot of his body composition to eating less food but higher quality food. Mark Sisson was a hardcore pasta and ice cream refeeder. It wasn't his "carb-based" diet that was holding him back, but rather his calorie quality was poor.

        2.) Mark Sisson has never been fat. He has always been outrageously lean versus the average person. Genetics play a role in body composition, and some people store fat more efficiently than others. There are plenty of meatheads at the gym that have a terrible workout plan but thanks to wonderful genetics, they get bit, strong and lean because they naturally make more testosterone, naturally have a low level of fat cells...the list goes on and on. It would probably take Mark a lot of effort to "get fat" because he never has been a day in his life.

        If you want to look more like Mark Sisson, you're going to have to really dial in your diet and workout plan. It's going to take calorie restriction and heavy lifting. And when I say heavy lifting, I mean deadlifts, squats, benchpresses, chin-ups, shoulder presses...all the good complex weight exercises. And you're going to have to track your lifts in a journal so you know you're progressing regularly. Please note that low carbohydrate is probably counter-productive at this point. Carbohydrate is a superior fuel for explosive energy, and carbohydrate is not directly stored as body fat (unlike dietary fat). Generally, the leaner you get or the harder you work out, the better you will perform and look displacing fat for carbs. You can't just add carbs - it has to come at the expense of fat.
        Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ripped View Post
          I tell you what. Try it. And if you come back in 8 weeks with zero progress, I'll eat an entire pizza and ice cream just for you. LOL!!! I don't really want to do that. But I'm just saying that's how confident I am that it will work.
          Actually this tends to have the opposite of your intended effect I think .

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          • #20
            Why do you want to look like Mark Sisson?
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            • #21
              Why can't Mark Sisson look like me!?!?
              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

              - Schopenhauer

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              • #22
                I heard mark shoots HGH. Durian Rider says so.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  Mark Sisson was a hardcore pasta and ice cream refeeder. It wasn't his "carb-based" diet that was holding him back, but rather his calorie quality was poor.
                  Actually Mark doesn't seem to make body comp the point of his own journey...he seems to say his "carb-based" diet promoted chronic inflammatory factors and ill health. In conjunction with his chronic cardio of course leading to osteoarthritis, tendonitis, and frequent upper respiratory infections (think he said like 8 a year!). In the following he obviously singles out refined grains and sugar as primary culprits in poor health....

                  But hey let the fella speak for himself AND in regards to this thread:

                  "How do you stay so ripped, dude?

                  I follow a routine that includes a workout 5 to 6 days a week for about 30 minutes. Some of my workouts are as short as 10 minutes. I alternate between resistance training with free weights and bodyweight, throw in a good deal of low level aerobic activity and sprint maybe once a week. The big joke around here is that at this point in my life, I just want to “look” fit. I’m also an avid snowboarder. For the latest update on what I’m doing check out this post: Bodyweight Exercises and Injury Prevention

                  Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/about...#ixzz2IXgbYxbn "
                  Last edited by Neckhammer; 01-20-2013, 11:47 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Yes, Neckhammer...

                    That's is "stay[ing] ripped"

                    Dude in the OP has to GET there first, then maintain it.

                    'Getting there' and 'staying there' are two different things... ask any serious gym rat.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                      Why do you want to look like Mark Sisson?
                      Totally agree! I do WISH that there were pics of other people popping up at the top of MDA.
                      Last edited by breadsauce; 01-21-2013, 01:31 AM.

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                      • #26
                        My husband does a volume body-weight training 3-5 days/wk plus heavy lifting at the gym once a week plus walking (at least 40 mins walking per day) plus mobility work (10 minutes per day or so). He was doing sprints for a while there, but it was niggling an injury that he's basically healed from (he's learning how to sprint/run without causing this niggle -- it's from a postural misalignment).

                        He's also a very clean eater. There aren't "cheat meals." He very rarely has alcohol (1-3x year). He gets lots of sleep (now) too. So, . . . I think it all makes a difference.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                          'Getting there' and 'staying there' are two different things... ask any serious gym rat.
                          But the getting there is half the fun! Just ask Clark Griswold!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                            But the getting there is half the fun! Just ask Clark Griswold!
                            Like a BEAST!
                            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                            • #29
                              Maybe it's as simple as the fact that not everybody has Mark's genes or is supposed to look like that. Mark designed the Primal Blueprint to help people live up to their own personal genetic potentials, but these are obviously not going to be the same for everyone. His genetic potential is different from your genetic potential.
                              "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                                Actually Mark doesn't seem to make body comp the point of his own journey...he seems to say his "carb-based" diet promoted chronic inflammatory factors and ill health.
                                While it is true that Mark promotes health over an unnecessarily lean body comp, a lot of that has to do with he's never been above 12% body fat in probably his whole life. Also, the statement on carbs isn't accurate. Mark's diet promoted chronic inflammation because the bulk of his calories came from pasta and ice cream. He's said it himself. He still has a weak spot for Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia and can't have it in the house or he'll go Oprah on it.

                                Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
                                In conjunction with his chronic cardio of course leading to osteoarthritis, tendonitis, and frequent upper respiratory infections (think he said like 8 a year!). In the following he obviously singles out refined grains and sugar as primary culprits in poor health....
                                Yep. The moral of the story is to avoid wheat and processed foods. But not carbohydrate. Nothing wrong with lots and lots of starch.
                                Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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