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    I understand that Primal is not a low carb diet. I also understand about myself that I seem to feel, look, sleep, better if I keep my carbs low- meaning, eat eggs, veg, high quality meat and fat. Little dairy and nuts, and pretty much no fruit, and no starch.

    When I do eat these things, I seem to get bloated, indigestion, and more than anything crazy cravings for sugar, sweets, carbs. I also have (more of) a tendency toward binging.

    Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this tendency in themselves? Is this in my head? Or is there really something to it?

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    I am just getting started (again) and I am taking the same approach except with some dairy (a cup of greek yogurt mixed with a cup of whole milk in a protein shake a couple of times each week).

    Eventually, once I hit my goal weight (or body composition, I should really say, since my goal weight is creeping up as I add muscle) and maintain it for a while I will loosen things up a bit and throw in more high-quality carbs like sweet potatoes, root veggies, quinona, and brown/wild rice. But for now, I find it easier to stick to a very narrow plan - from the perspective of both controlling hunger and not giving giving myself an inch that turns into a mile.

    I'm sure a lot of other people have the necessary willpower to give themselves more leeway to have a little of this and a little of that without going overboard, but I just don't, and so for me clear thick dark lines are the best.

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    • #3
      I don't crave much now, I do like the sweet taste of fruit, so apples and a bit of pinapple is my help here. I also put honey on Greek yogurt. None of these have slowed my weight loss down at all. As I am, I lose a 1lb a week but I seem to live on a lot less calories than I did on the SAD way of life. 2000 cals is a lot for me in a day and rare..I probably eat 1800 on avaerage in a day as I don't ever feel overly hungry.

      I don't go out of my way to eat fat but cook most things in butter and drink full fat milk

      Carb wise I probably have less than 100g a day
      Caution! My replies may contain traces of nuts!. My posts are just my opinion based on my experience with the primal way of life, there is no assurance it will work with others in the same way.

      Started Primal 15th October 2012
      Height 5'9"
      Start weight 200lb
      Loss so far 33.8lbs, now 166.2lb
      Goal was 168lb's

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      • #4
        I think we all have to figure out what carb level is best for us. I spent my life morbidly obese--until I discovered that I am extremely sensitive to carbs--anything over 25g will stimulate my appetite and store fat like mad. On 20g a day or less, I've lost close to 200 lbs and am at a 'normal' weight for the first time in my life.

        What's more significant is that having eaten very low carb for years, all my lab work is 'ideal' according to my doctors. This WOE obviously agrees with my body.

        But I would never tell anyone else to eat as I do. Each person has to find a carb level that is optimum for that person.

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        • #5
          This book has inspired me. I don't say things like that lightly.

          Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life: Nora T. Gedgaudas: 9781594774133: Amazon.com: Books

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          • #6
            Yes this is me too
            If it works for you, then go with it. Remember you do not need carbs to survive. Your body is perfectly happy running on fats. Good ones of course.
            Agree with PB about the above book too. Ignore the posters that will come and tell you that you must have them.
            Good luck with it all

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FireFinder View Post
              I seem to feel, look, sleep, better if I keep my carbs low- meaning, eat eggs, veg, high quality meat and fat. Little dairy and nuts, and pretty much no fruit, and no starch...Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this tendency in themselves?
              Tons of us. Absolutely tons. A huge percentage. Primal/Paleo absolutely CAN BE a low carbohydrate diet. Forget about dogma, do what makes you feel good.

              Originally posted by Paleobird
              This book has inspired me. I don't say things like that lightly.

              Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life: Nora T. Gedgaudas: 9781594774133: Amazon.com: Books
              True that. One of the classics.
              The Champagne of Beards

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              • #8
                I completely agree and feel fantastic on under 50 carbs a day, all coming from veggies. Super energy, great mood.
                be the hair that knots with my hair
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                primal since oct. 1, 2012

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                  Tons of us. Absolutely tons. A huge percentage. Primal/Paleo absolutely CAN BE a low carbohydrate diet. Forget about dogma, do what makes you feel good.
                  I think it's time we got over being apologetic about doing what we know feels right. No, Primal doesn't HAVE to be low carb, but it can be. What bugs me is the people saying, "Well I guess low carb could be used if you have a serious medical condition but I don't really think it's healthy long term". OK, first of all I have yet to see anything resembling proof of that while there are rigorously conducted studies of thousands of patients on keto for years and decades with ZERO adverse effects. I would eat this way even if I didn't have epilepsy. I don't have to justify that to anyone.

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                  • #10
                    Another unapologetic HFLC Primal here.

                    Yes, I have really tried to do it other ways.
                    It did not work at all for me for various reasons.

                    We all need to pay attention to what works for us as individuals.
                    If at some point I think it's not working for me... I'll change.
                    This isn't some sort of dogma, it's my health.
                    I'm not "carb phobic" in the least as some have stated around these forums.
                    I sometimes have treats of higher carb items I really enjoy like sweet plantains, but for my overall health and function I know that I need to moderate them to less often.

                    N=1 is valid.
                    It's valid for HFLC just like it's valid for those who chose LFHC, or the down the middle approach.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #11
                      Yep, when you can't assail the science, you label the individuals as dogmatic, carb-phobic, eating disordered, etc. Or just the vague generalities like, "Well everybody knows that having some of every type of food is better than limiting your options." WHY?

                      To me the question is not, "Why not eat carbs?" but "Why should I?" I'm not limiting my horizons, I'm making room on my plate for more of the stuff that I prefer.

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                      • #12
                        amen...i always love your posts, paleobird..
                        i do miss & crave fruit, but i stay away from it..same with wine, but i DO plan on adding wine back in maybe once a week or so after my whole 30, simply bc im tired of being the only sober person when we go places & wine is by far one of my all time favorite things..ever..life is just over all better with it & i'm tired of being without.. i guess i figure even though the wine probably isnt as good for me as the fruit would be, i know i'll enjoy it more..& one of my main goals for 2013 is to quit trying to be so perfect (diet & body image wise) & be happy with how far i've come & how much healthier i am now. in a way i'm lucky bc i dont care of many squashs other than spaghetti squash or starches, & i cant stand sweet potatos. i get tired of defending myself & "my ways" too...almost as tired as i am of letting this whole "way of living" take over my whole freaking life. i've been low carb/primal for almost 3 years & i'm to the point where its not a diet or something that i should have to explain or justify..its what i like to eat, & i continue to do it bc it makes me feel good.

                        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                        I think it's time we got over being apologetic about doing what we know feels right. No, Primal doesn't HAVE to be low carb, but it can be. What bugs me is the people saying, "Well I guess low carb could be used if you have a serious medical condition but I don't really think it's healthy long term". OK, first of all I have yet to see anything resembling proof of that while there are rigorously conducted studies of thousands of patients on keto for years and decades with ZERO adverse effects. I would eat this way even if I didn't have epilepsy. I don't have to justify that to anyone.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ashley.thepie.rat View Post
                          i DO plan on adding wine back in maybe once a week or so after my whole 30, simply bc im tired of being the only sober person when we go places & wine is by far one of my all time favorite things..ever..life is just over all better with it & i'm tired of being without..
                          Dry red wine has been my one cheat, and will remain so as long as I keep making progress.

                          Last year, when I first attempted to run with the Primal lifestyle (and succeeded for about 4 months), I picked up a glucose meter and obsessively tested/measured the impact of different foods. One evening I drank a whole bottle of red wine (For Science!) and it did not change my glucose readings at all.

                          YMMV of course.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dignan View Post
                            Dry red wine has been my one cheat, and will remain so as long as I keep making progress.

                            Last year, when I first attempted to run with the Primal lifestyle (and succeeded for about 4 months), I picked up a glucose meter and obsessively tested/measured the impact of different foods. One evening I drank a whole bottle of red wine (For Science!) and it did not change my glucose readings at all.

                            YMMV of course.
                            LOL. I like to have a glass or two of dry red wine for science every night. If I keep my overall carbs low enough, it doesn't seem to stop my weight loss.
                            High Weight: 225
                            Weight at start of Primal: 189
                            Current Weight: 174
                            Goal Weight: 130

                            Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dignan View Post
                              Dry red wine has been my one cheat, and will remain so as long as I keep making progress.

                              Last year, when I first attempted to run with the Primal lifestyle (and succeeded for about 4 months), I picked up a glucose meter and obsessively tested/measured the impact of different foods. One evening I drank a whole bottle of red wine (For Science!) and it did not change my glucose readings at all.

                              YMMV of course.
                              I plan on getting a glucose meter soon too..do you mind me asking which brand you got? I'm glad someone mentioned the meters bc I was just thinking "I need to google those & see what the "normal" ranges are"

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