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  • badgergirl, the potted shrimp looks wonderful. Shrimp and butter - what's not to love.

    As to SPAM, I confess that if it weren't so full of chemicals, I'd eat it often. Fry it 'til it starts to blacken and serve with fried eggs. I used to live in a town in central WA state that had an annual Manly Man Festival, and one of the events was creating recipes using it. Some people would make busts out of it. heh.
    "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
      Interesting. Shellfish has been so overfished here that it has become rather a pricy delicacy. I know some people who hate shellfish but slurp them down anyway because they are chic. Personally, I think I am descended from coastal living Groks. I don't feel right without my seafood.
      We are actually able to head out and get our own -- forage for it! It's amazing! There are certain limits, but overall. . .yeah. People are always right outside of our house getting mussels. We went out with a couple the other day, and they were telling us all kinds of interesting foraging stuff. Got their number, so we're hoping to do some different foraging.

      Holidays are different for different people. You and I probably do a lot more walking, hiking, etc. but some people sit by the pool sipping sweet drinks. So I guess that could vary a lot.
      True. That is not my idea of fun. It can be nice, but I do need to be on the move.

      When Dh and I went to sweden for the first time, we landed in Stockholm at about 8 am. We got through customs and through town to the BnB at about 9 am. We chatted with the owners until 11 am. We then went for lunch/breakfast, and the subsequently walked from one end of stockholm to the other. We walked from about noon until 7 pm or so, when we got chinese take-away. We then walked back to our home base, which was at least a 40 minute walk! We had dinner, and passed out around 9 pm. And then slept for 14 hrs!

      But, we spent every day thereafter walking for hours and hours on end, exploring all of the nooks and crannies in the city.

      This is what we do. When we were on holiday with the ILs, we not only hiked with them, but we also got to go on several walks just DH and I. So nice. We did one 5 hour walk that was so beyond pleasant. Lovely coastal walk, hardly a soul around, and enjoyed a nice winding road through a sheep station (overlooking the sea). Truly a good time was had by all.

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      • [QUOTE=JoanieL;1065434]badgergirl, the potted shrimp looks wonderful. Shrimp and butter - what's not to love.

        Done well = food of the gods. I've had them served as a starter in a castle (Castle Hotel England | Lake District Hotels | Boutique hotels Lake District | Yorkshire castle hotel | Lake District castle wedding | Yorkshire boutique hotels) and you cannot beat that for Downton Abbey style eats/life.

        (Did I mention I'm homesick?)
        I like badgers, books and booze, more or less in that order.

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        • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
          One of the reasons I stopped listening to the leader of the ZIOH bunch was because he proudly and confidently states that he eats only muscle meats and thinks things like liver are gross. .
          I don't know why you started listening to him in the first place. The guy is a complete fruitcake. From browsing their forum it doesn't take long to realize they are all complete loonies. They don't sound interested in health at all, only espousing their cult like fringe views.

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          • I finished reading my kids the book "My Side of the Mountain." Anyone remember that? The boy in the book runs off to live off the land---but in the winter is eating mainly venison and starts to feel unwell...UNTIL he begins to eat lots and lots of rabbit livers! Vitamin C it is!
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            • Originally posted by badgergirl View Post
              Potted is a specific method of serving meat/shellfish. It's sort of like pate, but not quite. Sort of like terrine, but not quite.
              Think gentleman's relish, think servants bringing tea and toast - about 4pm, in the library.
              Potted means cooked, seasoned and smooshed into a ramekin and then covered with the cooking juices and melted butter and allows to cool until set/sealed by butter.
              Sounds like rillettes. I had the pork version recently and it was a real treat.
              Retirement has afforded me the ultimate affluence, that of free time (Sahlins/Wells)

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              • I always thought potted meat was something like devilled ham, you know the kind in the white paper-wrapped can with the little devil on it? Way too processed to be any good for you.

                Anyway, I keep a lot of people around here who add little value on my ignore list and it helps a lot.

                Last night I had to have dinner alone so yay, I made a HUGE steak. It was so good.
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                • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  Oh that's interesting. I didn't know that the DC site was an offshoot of ZIOH.
                  Along that same line--ZIOH is an off-shoot of Jimmy Moore's LLVLC forum. C Washington was a moderator over there. The two had a falling out over (mostly) the efficacy of a long-term ZC diet. Jimmy invited him to start his own site, which he did, obviously. It's all one big family. Or so it seems…

                  Unless one has a medical/health condition that requires specific intervention, I'm now starting to believe that any diet that eliminates processed junk, recommends real food and moderate exercise can be a healthy diet. Excess weight may not be the health threat we've been led to believe; in the same twists of the studies that made people "know" saturated fat and red meat were killers.
                  Retirement has afforded me the ultimate affluence, that of free time (Sahlins/Wells)

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                  • Paleobird-
                    I've been a member here for sometime but rarely post. I just want to say how much I appreciate your posts. This is another good one! Like you and so many others here I eat a relatively low carb diet because that is what works for me. . I'll look forward to reading further about your experience with your new plan.
                    Starting Weight: 197.5
                    Current Weight: 123
                    Far healthier!

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                    • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                      I could never give up limes, particularly key limes, either... so I'm safe.
                      My meat comes from a farm that raises lemons and limes but just keeps some animals as a side line for underbrush control. One of the perks of ordering is that you get to pick all the fruit you can carry. Next time I'm bringing a bigger bag. Lemon/lime Pelegrino is great.
                      Originally posted by seaweed View Post
                      cerviche with lime juice... yumm!!!!
                      Another winner.
                      Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                      How was todays food PB?
                      6 eggs for mid morning meal. 2 lamb shoulder chops sfor dinner in Indian hot sauce. Rooibos tea with raw hwc. This morning I'm not hungry at all. Interesting.
                      Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                      badgergirl, the potted shrimp looks wonderful. Shrimp and butter - what's not to love.
                      Two of my favorites.
                      Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                      We are actually able to head out and get our own -- forage for it! It's amazing! There are certain limits, but overall. . .yeah. People are always right outside of our house getting mussels. We went out with a couple the other day, and they were telling us all kinds of interesting foraging stuff.
                      When I was a kid you could forage for shellfish on the rocks in San Diego including nice big abalone but they are gone now.
                      Originally posted by Forgotmylastusername View Post
                      I don't know why you started listening to him in the first place. The guy is a complete fruitcake. From browsing their forum it doesn't take long to realize they are all complete loonies. They don't sound interested in health at all, only espousing their cult like fringe views.
                      Please read the OP again. Particularly the part about this being something I'm investigating. There are some interesting scientific references and such on that site among the personal nuttiness. I dismiss him because he doesn't see the value in nose to tail eating or in grass fed meat, not because he (and disciples) are carnivores.
                      Originally posted by solstice View Post
                      I finished reading my kids the book "My Side of the Mountain." Anyone remember that? The boy in the book runs off to live off the land---but in the winter is eating mainly venison and starts to feel unwell...UNTIL he begins to eat lots and lots of rabbit livers! Vitamin C it is!
                      Oh, Yeah! I had that book as a kid. I think I'll take the lamb liver out to thaw and start on a batch of pate'
                      Originally posted by TCOHTom View Post
                      Along that same line--ZIOH is an off-shoot of Jimmy Moore's LLVLC forum. C Washington was a moderator over there. The two had a falling out over (mostly) the efficacy of a long-term ZC diet. Jimmy invited him to start his own site, which he did, obviously. It's all one big family. Or so it seems…

                      Unless one has a medical/health condition that requires specific intervention, I'm now starting to believe that any diet that eliminates processed junk, recommends real food and moderate exercise can be a healthy diet. Excess weight may not be the health threat we've been led to believe; in the same twists of the studies that made people "know" saturated fat and red meat were killers.
                      Wow. That's a bit incestuous. I think that any diet that makes you be cognizant of what is going in your face, stop and think before eating, is helpful.
                      I disagree on the excess weight thing although of course there are people who take their quest for the perfect body to unhealthy skinny levels. I was perfectly healthy by biomarkers with 30 extra pounds on me but I *feel* so much better without it. I really think long term damage issues such as wear and tear on knees have to be taken in to account too.

                      Originally posted by janie View Post
                      Paleobird-
                      I've been a member here for sometime but rarely post. I just want to say how much I appreciate your posts. This is another good one! Like you and so many others here I eat a relatively low carb diet because that is what works for me. . I'll look forward to reading further about your experience with your new plan.
                      Thank you Janie and Welcome.
                      Last edited by Paleobird; 01-18-2013, 11:29 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
                        cerviche with lime juice... yumm!!!!
                        and what may I ask Seas is cerviche ???? it sounds a little internal ???? LOL

                        Originally posted by zoebird View Post
                        People are always right outside of our house getting mussels.
                        and seas and zoes please be careful getting shellfish around NZ in the summer. I realise that it is mainly a problem in the north, but those diseases that you can get from infected shellfish are NASTY !!!!!

                        Cori - thanx for the lime heads up. I need to experiment a little more

                        PB - you rock


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                        • sorry - found cerviche !!!!!!
                          "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

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                          • LOVE this thread, Robyn. So much so, that you are now fixed in my signature

                            While I don't think I could ever go ZC (love my sweet potatoes too much), when I did experiment with verrrrry low carb, I was very clear headed, mood was stable, but I also felt like a fucking VULCAN. Like my emotions had FLATLINED. That and my heart was racing at night and it woke me up. So I figured since I have no need to be ZC or even VLC, I stopped. But it is fascinating nonetheless.
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                            • and seas and zoes please be careful getting shellfish around NZ in the summer. I realise that it is mainly a problem in the north, but those diseases that you can get from infected shellfish are NASTY !!!!!
                              it is too cold down here to get anything i think. i have stopped breathing from shock at the cold leaping in the sea one hot summers day when even the sand was too hot to walk on bare foot!

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                              • yum PB that food sounds good!

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