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  • #76
    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post

    Also if a ZC diet really causes scurvy, why were all the traditional Inuit not dead?
    Inuits ate plant materials from stomach contents in animals such as rein deers etc...
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

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    • #77
      I cannot believe there are already 8 pages here and I'm just seeing that you posted this!

      Starting New Years Day I've been "mostly" carnivorous myself! I've had some brussel sprouts (cause I honestly LOVE them roasted), but forced down some wilted spinach with my venison and roasted marrow bone this evening. I can easily live without fruit--at least at this time of the year. BUT--I could (and DO) lick marrow bones! No new seizures here and my IBS has finally abated! I'm right there with you sister!

      I havent been on a scale in weeks...but I did take measurements about 3 weeks ago and again today---lost 2 inches off my waist, 1/2 inch of my thighs and an inch off my hips! Nice bonus
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      http://thewoodsygal.com/

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
        Oh now VLC can cause dry eyes? WTF? Reeally???
        Relax... I'm HFLC and take a very intense prescription diuretic for a medical condition... and still no dry eyes.
        I say it's bunk.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
          Relax... I'm HFLC and take a very intense prescription diuretic for a medical condition... and still no dry eyes.
          I say it's bunk.
          Yeah I am thinking so too.
          I should really be not on here right now lol

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          • #80
            i saw a blog a few years back bout a dude who gave himself scurvy

            i lol't

            i can't remember for sure but i think his diet was just pemmican

            none of you be that guy, okay? i'm not saying you will be, i like food experiments, just if you do get scurvy out of some unplanned food mishap don't cure it til after halloween

            you can dress up as an authentic pirate
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
              I did some digging into Jaminet's claims about scurvy. He says he got this a result of a VLC diet including lots of veggies, NOT a ZC diet.

              Also if a ZC diet really causes scurvy, why were all the traditional Inuit not dead?
              Paul Jaminet also developed scurvy on a VLC diet, which gave us the PHD ?

              Melissa posts about their traditional diet here: inuit | Melissa McEwen on food anthropology, economics, and culture

              If the older posts are archived on ZIOH look up 'Chris Norton' for some interesting input. He was ZC for years and still is VLC, as posted here: » zero carb - Unleash The Beef
              Last edited by TCOHTom; 01-17-2013, 08:16 PM.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                I did some digging into Jaminet's claims about scurvy. He says he got this a result of a VLC diet including lots of veggies, NOT a ZC diet. He says the problem was the lack of starches but maybe it was the inclusion of the veggies. All of those plant anti-nutrients could have been binding up the nutrient absorption he needed.

                Also if a ZC diet really causes scurvy, why were all the traditional Inuit not dead?
                Vitamin C is in certain organs. I believe the adrenal gland, maybe even liver? Also it was in blubber or something with raw sea mammals.

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                • #83
                  Interesting links about the Inuit from POV's other than the ZIOH site. So much of the ethnography of that region and people is second or third hand at best. I think the main thing that can be said with any certainty is that their diet was mainly meat but included some plant matter around the edges. Kind of like mine.

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                  • #84
                    Yes, liver contains vitamin C...
                    Chicken liver for instance, 1oz has about 13% DV.
                    Pork is about the same.


                    A cup of 10% fat multi-strain greek yogurt has 25% DV of you'd like a rich little dairy treat too...
                    C isn't that hard to get from easily digestible places... and without starch.



                    I have a local source for organic pastured adrenals, but I can never find any nutrition info on them.
                    Last edited by cori93437; 01-17-2013, 10:11 PM.
                    “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                    ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                    And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                    • #85
                      OMG seriously someone shoot me now! Why do I let idiots get to me like that. They are wrong. I have to go and do my exam, and I am shaking with rage. I think I won't be around for a few days.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                        OMG seriously someone shoot me now! Why do I let idiots get to me like that. They are wrong. I have to go and do my exam, and I am shaking with rage. I think I won't be around for a few days.
                        Breathe.... laugh at them... shake it off.
                        They are the dogmatic fools.
                        You have to do what is good for you.
                        Remember, some people are only on this forum to be argumentative... this isn't even their lifestyle.
                        They are just here to poke people, no other reason.
                        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                        • #87
                          I'm a dogmatic fool? That's pretty funny. I haven't even tried to give this person any sort of advice or tell her how to eat because it's pointless. She's probably the most childish uncivil person I've ever had the displeasure of exchanging forum posts with.

                          She asked a question, I answered her. Why ask the question if the answer you know you're going to get is going to cause you to throw a tantrum or ignore any response that isn't the one you want to hear?
                          Make America Great Again

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                            I'm a dogmatic fool? That's pretty funny. I haven't even tried to give this person any sort of advice or tell her how to eat because it's pointless. She's probably the most childish uncivil person I've ever had the displeasure of exchanging forum posts with.

                            She asked a question, I answered her. Why ask the question if the answer you know you're going to get is going to cause you to throw a tantrum or ignore any response that isn't the one you want to hear?
                            I answered her above remark about being frustrated... I assume it was from a different thread and you have followed her over here to bother her further? Because I don't see any Q&A right here that would indicate this interaction...

                            My "dogmatic fools" remark was a GUESS as she was referring to people ripping on HFLC again... which is completely ridiculous... and I actually figured is was other forum members (not you) but it pretty much applies any way because you believe in a different set of principle and tend to pick at anything that does not fit into those.
                            Also, the rest of my response is spot on in this case.

                            This forum is supposed to be welcoming to a wide range of eating styles that fit withing the Primal/Paleo umbrella and HFLC is one of those styles.
                            It works quite well for many of us.
                            I'm all for you following the diet that works for you, milk and juice and whatever... I don't try to tell you to eat more meat and fat. If you had a question I would not answer it 100% counter to the diet I know you follow, I would take your preference into account.
                            How about respecting people enough to do the same for them.

                            I have know idea what thread the argument ensued in... and I'm not interested.
                            But don't play daft.
                            And following someone to another thread... WTF... stalker weirdness.
                            Last edited by cori93437; 01-17-2013, 10:56 PM.
                            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                            ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                            And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                            • #89
                              How do you stalk someone on an internet forum? I don't get it. There are like 3 topics being posted in all day. Do other people not click through various threads? I only commented because I thought it was funny she retreated to this thread to seek coddling and try to talk about me behind my back. If she mentions me, I automatically have a right to reply to anything said. Or "stalk".

                              If anything her bitching in here is just derailing this topic for no reason.
                              Make America Great Again

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                                How do you stalk someone on an internet forum? I don't get it. There are like 3 topics being posted in all day. Do other people not click through various threads? I only commented because I thought it was funny she retreated to this thread to seek coddling and try to talk about me behind my back. If she mentions me, I automatically have a right to reply to anything said. Or "stalk".

                                If anything her bitching in here is just derailing this topic for no reason.
                                “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                                ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                                And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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