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  • PB keep us updated on how you're doing on this diet!

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    • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
      today i am making a curry with organs. i got someone to cut the tongue out of the homekilled sheep i helped unload off the truck and got the kidneys and liver. i defrosted part of the deer heart. so what my plan is, is to make the filling for umble pie but add coconut milk and spices to the sauce.
      Originally posted by peril View Post
      I do this regularly for my breakfast - make up a batch to last a couple of weeks. Quantities depend on quantities of meat. Basic curry is to puree onions, garlic and ginger (add a bit of water to facilitate). Heat oil (I really like red palm oil for this but ghee, lard or coconut oil are good) and frying puree on lowish heat until it is thoroughly cooked and the oil separates. It should sizzle. Add turmeric and chilli powder and fry for a minute or two then add ground coriander and cumin and fry for another minute. Add the diced organs, excepting the liver. Add diced tomatoes and water to cover. Cook for two or three hours, checking there is enough water and it isn't sticking to the bottom. Should have a thick gravy. Add diced liver cook for 5 min (Iactually turn off the heat at this point as the reheating in the microwave is enough to cook the liver)
      Originally posted by seaweed View Post
      yours looks a bit more complicated than mine. i just fried some butter and a chopped leek as i was given one from someone's garden the other day. chucked in some chunks of liver and the kidneys. fried it for a while. pulled the organs out and chopped them up. threw them back in with the preboiled and chopped tongue ( i peeled it first ) and the heart. some coconut milk. some venison broth and some red curry paste and a tsp of vinegar. i will try to be more adventurous next time.

      kina omlette for lunch tho so i am off to bash open some kina with a hammer soon. i will reheat the curry for dinner.
      You gys are making me hungry.

      Originally posted by dizzyorange View Post
      PB keep us updated on how you're doing on this diet!
      Doing well. Things have been a little crazy in my life lately due to selling my house and looking for an apartment to move into. I find that I am only eating once a day with maybe a little am snack like some kefir. The extra time spent not eating comes in handy.

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      • Today I'm starting my steak & eggs week where I eat nothing but.

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        • Originally posted by ulnauy View Post
          Today I'm starting my steak & eggs week where I eat nothing but.
          Oooh, that sounds good.
          I'm having pate' and cheese for dinner because the roast I wanted to slow cook was still frozen in the middle. Oh well. That is for tomorrow.

          I had a houseguest here for a couple of weeks who is doing her darnedest to lose some weight without success. She was always making big salads and eating lots of celery. I had some veggies that she made just to be polite but I really feel better without all that fibrous stuff. It seems like the hunger signals are more clear when all the veggie "noise" is eliminated from the diet. I feel real physiological hunger only when really needed and have no desire for munchies other times.

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          • Neckhammer sent me this great link to the Hyperlipid site where Peter gives a perfect visual aid to what my diet is all about.

            Hyperlipid: Fruit and vegetables

            Dr. Georgia Ede on her Diagnosis : Diet blog refers to her diet as the MM for Mostly Meat diet. I think I will call mine "The Things My Dog Likes To Eat Too Diet". Seriously. My dog likes all animal product plus high fat fruits and nuts and will even eat berries. He also has no problem with condiment veggies such as onions, garlic and even hot peppers. Being a Mexican dog, those make him feel right at home.

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            • Oranges, cabbage, and carrots... Yuck. That is the worst combo of plants I can imagine.

              I like veggies for adding crunchy texture to other foods — it's hard to get that crunchiness after cutting out grains. I suppose nuts are crunchy but I don't like the combo of meat and nuts, or potatoes and nuts, or eggs and nuts, or really nuts with anything.

              I'm on day 2 of Steak&Eggs. Hasn't been long enough to feel any difference. I admit I snuck some onions in there.

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              • I needed to pop in here so I can feel less guilty about my mostly meat diet. (She says as she finishes up chopping up some vegetables for a soup, after a week of mostly no vegetables.)

                P.S. Meat and nuts is really good. I get pork cutlets and I scramble one egg, dip the cutlets in the egg, then dredge the cutlets in some almonds that I've pulverized in my food processor and added a little tapioca starch, paprika, salt and pepper. It could probably work without the tapioca starch. I think this would be a nice coating for fish, too.
                Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                • Crunchiness= Chicharones.
                  “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
                  ~Friedrich Nietzsche
                  And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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                  • Bringing this thread back to point out this great article by Dr. Georgia Ede about the history of carnivorous diets.

                    The History of All-Meat Diets » Diagnosis: Diet

                    If anyone cares I'm still going strong in the carnivorousness. I have had a couple of instances where I ate a bunch of veggies due to a social situation (a weekend spent with only somewhat pescatarian friends) and I really noticed the difference. I felt all stopped up digestively and bloated.

                    It's not a problem if I have say one isolated salad (because it comes with a restaurant dinner). But if I eat veggies for a couple of days in a row I really don't feel well. It seems like all those microbes Peter was talking about have a party and start multiplying and taking over my digestive system. I just feel lighter without them. It's my intestine after all. Why should I have to carry them around?

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                    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      Of course not. The phytonutrients have been processed into things we can better absorb. I meant we were still getting the benefit from them, just using the cow as the "middleman". Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
                      Hi Paleobird!

                      Your thread is fascinating. Could you elaborate more on the quoted concept though?
                      We are like cattle, blocked in by industrial confines. Walking down aisle seven, I grab my wheat flakes like a foddered bovine. ~lucid space

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                      • But if I eat veggies for a couple of days in a row I really don't feel well. It seems like all those microbes Peter was talking about have a party and start multiplying and taking over my digestive system. I just feel lighter without them. It's my intestine after all. Why should I have to carry them around?
                        +1. Love this. My experience, too.
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                        • Originally posted by Lucid Space View Post
                          Hi Paleobird!

                          Your thread is fascinating. Could you elaborate more on the quoted concept though?
                          Hi PB,

                          I'll take this one if you don't mind, but feel free to add additional stuff if you want.

                          Lucid, you've heard the term "you are what you eat" correct? Well, this holds true for all animals, not just humans.

                          Now cows and other ruminants like bison and lamb, can process grass as humans cannot. However, upon eating this grass, their body uses it to provide all of the fule and nutrients it needs to survive. The grass it eats makes up the nutrition present in the animal's body.

                          So, how does a human get more "grass" into his diet? He eats grass-fed meats!

                          The same concept holds true for other animals too. Whatever they ingest (good or bad), turns into nutrients (or anti-nutrients) in their body, and when we eat them, we get those for ourselves. It's part of why eating grass-fed/pastured animals is so beneficial as opposed to grain-fed/factory raised on soy and stuff.
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                          • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                            If anyone cares I'm still going strong in the carnivorousness. I have had a couple of instances where I ate a bunch of veggies due to a social situation (a weekend spent with only somewhat pescatarian friends) and I really noticed the difference. I felt all stopped up digestively and bloated.
                            Yes, we care, Paleobird, and we wish you the greatest success. If you succeed perhaps we will too, when we get there.

                            I hear you're only eating one meal a day. Can you give us some sample meals?
                            "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                            • Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                              Hi PB,

                              I'll take this one if you don't mind, but feel free to add additional stuff if you want.

                              Lucid, you've heard the term "you are what you eat" correct? Well, this holds true for all animals, not just humans.

                              Now cows and other ruminants like bison and lamb, can process grass as humans cannot. However, upon eating this grass, their body uses it to provide all of the fule and nutrients it needs to survive. The grass it eats makes up the nutrition present in the animal's body.

                              So, how does a human get more "grass" into his diet? He eats grass-fed meats!

                              The same concept holds true for other animals too. Whatever they ingest (good or bad), turns into nutrients (or anti-nutrients) in their body, and when we eat them, we get those for ourselves. It's part of why eating grass-fed/pastured animals is so beneficial as opposed to grain-fed/factory raised on soy and stuff.
                              Drumroll, yes I have heard that quote. It's a good rule of thumb.

                              I'll add a few specifics to help make it more clear about the grass relationship with meats:

                              Grass fed farm animals (and wild game) are healthier because the animals naturally produces DHA and EPA fats (omega-3's) from consuming the ALA (in the grasses, clovers etc.). The majority of Americans get plenty of omega-6 and not enough omega-3. The quality of the meats have gone down over time as you are well aware of I'm sure. The production has increased and the animal's food supply also got worse, and became heavily grain based. Then, the ratio of these fats became majorly skewed. (related to their body not being able to produce DHA and EPA)

                              Anyway, my previous question was about the phytochemicals, aka antioxidants. Things consumed, do change by it's consumer, obviously. So, the grass conversion to fat is a good example. Using that logic, if an animal consumed a fruit....hypothetically, let's say a pineapple, would the bromelain get to me in the same way, as the antioxidant liver-detoxing anti inflammatory property that it is, if I was to consume the meat of the animal who ate it instead? My guess is no on that one.
                              Last edited by Lucid Space; 04-07-2013, 09:55 PM. Reason: I like to write.
                              We are like cattle, blocked in by industrial confines. Walking down aisle seven, I grab my wheat flakes like a foddered bovine. ~lucid space

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                              • All that being said, ^ I must state that I'm happy to be surrounded by people encouraging meat consumption. I was on the soy train for a while, while I attempted to be a veg. Soy for food: nothing truly good there from what I've read. My body was craving meat. Also, I'm an O blood type, and for what it's worth, I'm supposed to eat lots of meat! haha Now, I have no idea the science on all of that but I would like to learn more about it.

                                Anyone else here, or PB, in the know about the blood type diet? I believe that O is the most primitive blood type....
                                We are like cattle, blocked in by industrial confines. Walking down aisle seven, I grab my wheat flakes like a foddered bovine. ~lucid space

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