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  • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
    i am sitting here drumming my fingers waiting for them to fall off the bone lol prob an hour to go. i used venison broth too.
    Braised Venison Shank Recipe with Garlic | Hunter Angler Gardener Cook these sorts of things are good as i can give the kids mashed potatoes and veges with them and we are all happy. no me sitting there eating a raw steak while they have pizza.

    my cat always eats the head of the rabbit first. all the fat is in the brain. she eats all the bones too and only ever leaves the colon.
    Patience.
    My medium/smallish sized dog loves bunny bones since they crunch up so nicely even without wolf jaws.

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    • patience paid off. they were so yummy. there is always that kind of vague flavour thing you get with all slow roasted meats where it could be any red meat. there are only subtle diffs between beef, mutton, hogget and lamb. this was a wild deer and the kids reckoned it didnt taste like venison. all the gamey bits were gone. i dont notice gamey anymore but they still do. there was quite a lot of gelatinous sinews i guess, for want of a better word, thru the shanks which were really quite nice. i got some marrow out of one of the bones too as i had axed it off so the break was jagged. so yeah, venison shanks and gravy for dinner. it kind of sucks that all the really nice food, you cant get in the shops. i have no idea now how i am gonna convince anyone i know, other than me, who hunts to carry the shanks out!!!

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      • Oooooh yes, gelatinous sinews. That's the whole point of eating shanks. Some people just don't get that.

        I think the carnivorous diet can work really well if things like bone marrow, bone broth, connective tissue, organ meats, etc. are included. I would be bored to death on just straight muscle meat all the time.

        Thank you seaweed. You have helped me regain my appetite. That and the fact that my drains are working again. I think I'm going to go have a bite and then to bed.

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        • I think the carnivorous diet can work really well if things like bone marrow, bone broth, connective tissue, organ meats, etc. are included. I would be bored to death on just straight muscle meat all the time.
          since i have been carnivoring, i now eat all the organs, the fat and the connective tissue and like them. previous i could only really do the livers, hearts and kidneys. or the fat if i had rendered it into rinds. now i am not forcing myself to like it at all. my kids still dont get it unfortunately as they are missing so much flavour and variety.

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          • Hey seaweed! Just finished reading a book to my kids called "Island of the Blue Dolphins." The girl in the story lives alone on an island and lives primarily off of abalone!

            Originally posted by seaweed View Post
            it's one of those it never rains, it pours type situations as i limp along normally on stuff all venison. since i dont do the farmed stuff, i have to make do with what i can get. then i get 2 whole deers in as many months! having acquired 1/4 cow before, i will say venison is a much better animal. nicer cuts and a lot less nebulous mince you have to make stuff with to disguise.

            i went for a snorkel and got 4 sea urchins and a coupla big abalone today so choices abound! right now i am slow roasting the venison shanks as i need the room in the freezer and my fave game recipe website said you would be eyeing them up before the backstraps once you'd eaten properly cooked shanks. i just had a peek and i am not convinced yet.

            re: rabbit. that is why i do it buttered in curry with lots of cream. beats the ass off chicken any day. you could also make any of those cream and chicken dishes with it too.

            i hate plumbing dramas. best of luck with it.
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            • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
              since i have been carnivoring, i now eat all the organs, the fat and the connective tissue and like them. previous i could only really do the livers, hearts and kidneys. or the fat if i had rendered it into rinds. now i am not forcing myself to like it at all. my kids still dont get it unfortunately as they are missing so much flavour and variety.
              Now there's a good word "carnivoring", I like it. I feel the same way. I have gone from eating offal and odd bits because I thought I should to actively liking them.
              Originally posted by solstice View Post
              Hey seaweed! Just finished reading a book to my kids called "Island of the Blue Dolphins." The girl in the story lives alone on an island and lives primarily off of abalone!
              I read that book when I was a kid. You used to be able to forage abalone off the rocks here in San DIego when I was a kid but they are all gone now. Abalone is delicious.


              I also find that my body's signaling mechanisms seem to be clearer with this WOE. I can look in the fridge one day and see cheese or liver pate' and my body tells me very clearly which one it wants and which one does not appeal. And I find that the difference between real hunger and "Hmm. That looks good and probably would be tasty <chomp>" what could be described as "peckishness" is more clear as well.

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              • Hey seaweed! Just finished reading a book to my kids called "Island of the Blue Dolphins." The girl in the story lives alone on an island and lives primarily off of abalone!
                i have that book. her feather shag cloak fascinates me as i am a weaver. the real story of what happened to her once they got her off the island is very sad =( i also know some people who got stuck on an island down south for about 10 days as the weather changed. all they had to eat was paua in the shell for a while. apparently it got a bit boring. we usually have to dive for it here now as most of the easy spots have been over gathered. there is a limit and a minumum size for recreational diving. thinking about shag feather cloaks, do you get anything like muttonbirds in the US?
                Muttonbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia you either love them or hate them. the best way i can describe the taste of roast mutton bird is it is like a rich flavoursome mutton basted in cod liver oil. i much prefer the fresh to the salties but they are quite difficult to get fresh unless you know someone who goes muttonbirding on the islands.

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                • I don't think we get muttonbirds up here. Sounds yummy though. You could start a muttonbird meat export business. I pay ridiculous amounts of money on the net for real down under 'roo meat.

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                  • Originally posted by seaweed View Post
                    i have that book. her feather shag cloak fascinates me as i am a weaver. the real story of what happened to her once they got her off the island is very sad =( i also know some people who got stuck on an island down south for about 10 days as the weather changed. all they had to eat was paua in the shell for a while. apparently it got a bit boring. we usually have to dive for it here now as most of the easy spots have been over gathered. there is a limit and a minumum size for recreational diving. thinking about shag feather cloaks, do you get anything like muttonbirds in the US?
                    Muttonbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia you either love them or hate them. the best way i can describe the taste of roast mutton bird is it is like a rich flavoursome mutton basted in cod liver oil. i much prefer the fresh to the salties but they are quite difficult to get fresh unless you know someone who goes muttonbirding on the islands.
                    The book on a whole wasnt a very feel-good story and I imagine her life off of the island would not have been what she wanted, given the immense freedom and satisfaction she seemed to have there.

                    As for muttonbird...almost looks like a pigeon but I assume bigger. If seabird---are they similar to a gull or pelican?
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                    • I imagine her life off of the island would not have been what she wanted, given the immense freedom and satisfaction she seemed to have there.
                      That always makes me mad - when civilization finds some happy thing and captures it, destroys it, etc.
                      Crohn's, doing SCD

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                      • As for muttonbird...almost looks like a pigeon but I assume bigger. If seabird---are they similar to a gull or pelican?
                        the big ones are sooty shearwater shags i think. mutton birds that you eat are the chicks out the burrows before they fledge. apparently the big ones arent very tasty. i have seen them way out at sea when we have been out fishing. they overwinter in japan somewhere i think. shags are a type of cormorant which is why island of the blue dolphins made me think of them.

                        That always makes me mad - when civilization finds some happy thing and captures it, destroys it, etc.
                        yes it is pretty grim Juana Maria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                        • Well, last night I had a two for one coupon so I decided to try the new grass fed upscale burger joint in town called The Burger Lounge.
                          I got a boar burger and a bison burger. I ended up having some of my friend's quinoa salad that she couldn't finish but was too goo to toss.

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                          • i have never liked quinoa. i did go to the world's best seafood restruant with the kids for lunch yesterday. all you usually get is fish and shellfish and a few veges as decoration so it is pretty carnivorous. i ate the tinsy bit of steamed brocolli with all the anchovy butter which came with the fish. in public i do need to be mindful when i am out with a stack of small children and i am the one not eating veges. i bunked breakfast and had some MCT oil instead as i was training. mug of pork broth in a flask for after then came home and had kina and eggs for lunch. i got 4 kina when i was out diving the other day. i am finding carnivoring makes me far more into hunting.

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                            • I'm not much of a quinoa fan either but this particular salad had a very nice dressing on it. Today I had a salmon omelet for my main meal with a little nibble of labne in the mid morning. There were onions, garlic and some avocado in the mix. So good. I seem to be developing that pattern of about 1.5 meals per day.

                              And I made a meatloaf for tomorrow that came out really good. I used the US Wellness meats Petburger which is wonderfully fatty beef mixed with ground liver and heart. There was a lot of oil that cooked off the loaf around it in the pan that I then turned into gravy with the addition of a little water chestnut powder. Good stuff.

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                              • Well I got my liver PB, but I couldn't bring myself to make the pate LOL. Maybe next time? I really do want to try it, but it kinda made me squeamish lol.
                                My butcher minced up lambs fry with chicken breast and thigh for my pets. Plus ive given them some of the liver whole, and they seemed to like it.
                                I think maybe I could do a meatloaf like yours if the bits are already minced up. I am working up to it

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