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  • Why do starchy carbs like sweet potato, potato, squash make me ill?

    Heya

    I have known for years that starchy carbs make me sick. Bread I get but why the tubers? All of them, especially white potatoes make me feel ill. I get cramps, bloating and the gassy runs. The doc looked at me like I was somehow not quite write in the brain box. Too much sugar did the same thing to me pre paleo as did the starch and I wonder if there is an issue with starchy carbs like gluten sensitivity?

    I have been as near to grain free for the last 9 months as it is possible to be in our first world but since Wednesday evening when my daughter was born I have had to eat out a lot. I did very well but for the home fries with breakfast Thursday morning, I was tired and hungry and I said what the hell. Well hell came to visit a few hours later and I am still feeling it pretty hard. I have to run for the wife, I have to clean the house before baby comes home and all I can do is keep running for the head. Gods forbid I squat and lift anything....


    Anybody have an idea why this happens?
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  • #2
    Sounds like your carbohydrate intolerant. Here's a way to go about figuring your best levels...

    Carbohydrate Intolerance & Insulin Resistance Diet For Improved Health
    Last edited by Neckhammer; 01-13-2013, 03:27 PM.

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    • #3
      Wow, love all the foods on the test..

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      • #4
        ^Definitely Primal approved

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        • #5
          lol @ "carbohydrate intolerant." Carbohydrate is consumed in greatest quantity by the average human. An intolerance to our preferred food source makes me chuckle.

          That being said, your issue is likely your gut flora. Carbohydrate is largely broken down in your intestine - fermented by gut flora. Things like diets high in insoluble grain fiber, diets very low in natural sugars, overexposure to antibiotics and a whole host of other things can be responsible for wiping out your gut flora. Without healthy gut flora, you're going to have severe intolerances to starch because you need that flora to digest soluble fiber.

          Check this out:

          9 Steps to Perfect Health #5: Heal Your Gut

          You can do things on your own to recover your gut flora - taking a probiotic supplement, eating quality fermented dairy (organic full-fat Greek yogurt or kefir), consuming more easily digestible fruit (gut flora loves natural sugar, think more citrus fruits and melons and less berries), and of course, reduce your exposure to things that are awful for your gut - polyunsaturated fats, insouluble grain fibers, etc.

          In time, you should be able to recover your gut flora. Note that some people are so far gone (usually from antibiotics), they have to resort to "fecal transplants" - which is exactly what you probably think it is...

          I strongly recommend purchasing this probiotic:

          Nutrition Now PB 8 Pro-Biotic Acidophilus For Life

          I use it myself on occasion. It's rated very highly and very affordable. You can try taking this probiotic alongside a small well-cooked sweet potato and a little Greek yogurt. See how you react. You may slowly be able to build yourself back up.
          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
            your issue is likely your gut flora. Carbohydrate is largely broken down in your intestine - fermented by gut flora. Things like diets high in insoluble grain fiber, diets very low in natural sugars, overexposure to antibiotics and a whole host of other things can be responsible for wiping out your gut flora. Without healthy gut flora, you're going to have severe intolerances to starch because you need that flora to digest soluble fiber.

            Check this out:

            9 Steps to Perfect Health – #5: Heal Your Gut

            You can do things on your own to recover your gut flora - taking a probiotic supplement, eating quality fermented dairy (organic full-fat Greek yogurt or kefir), consuming more easily digestible fruit (gut flora loves natural sugar, think more citrus fruits and melons and less berries), and of course, reduce your exposure to things that are awful for your gut - polyunsaturated fats, insouluble grain fibers, etc.

            In time, you should be able to recover your gut flora. Note that some people are so far gone (usually from antibiotics), they have to resort to "fecal transplants" - which is exactly what you probably think it is...

            I strongly recommend purchasing this probiotic:

            Nutrition Now PB 8 Pro-Biotic Acidophilus For Life

            I use it myself on occasion. It's rated very highly and very affordable. You can try taking this probiotic alongside a small well-cooked sweet potato and a little Greek yogurt. See how you react. You may slowly be able to build yourself back up.
            +1
            Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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            5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
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            • #7
              It may have nothing to do with carbs. You may be sensitive to nightshades.

              How Deadly Are Nightshades? Diagnosis: Diet

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                It may have nothing to do with carbs. You may be sensitive to nightshades.

                How Deadly Are Nightshades? Diagnosis: Diet
                Also a possibility - but your issue would be solely related to white potatoes since sweet potatoes are mentioned in the title. If you have issues with sweet potatoes, squash or bananas, it's not a nightshade issue unless you're combining them with white potatoes.

                For your sake, I hope it's not a nightshade issue. If I couldn't have my tomatoes, peppers and white potatoes...oh man. I'd cry for weeks.
                Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChocoTaco369 View Post
                  lol @ "carbohydrate intolerant." Carbohydrate is consumed in greatest quantity by the average human. An intolerance to our preferred food source makes me chuckle.
                  I had forgotten about you and you thinking that everyone needs a ton of carbs.
                  I can't eat too many without feeling sick and tired too. So remember Choco, every one is different. Don't tell this person its not possible, when it is.

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                  • #10
                    And WTF our preferred fuel source? Erm OK.

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                    • #11
                      I could be wrong but sweet potatoes are a higher GI food than squash ...
                      Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                        And WTF our preferred fuel source? Erm OK.
                        +1
                        Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                        Don't forget to play!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                          I had forgotten about you and you thinking that everyone needs a ton of carbs.
                          I can't eat too many without feeling sick and tired too. So remember Choco, every one is different. Don't tell this person its not possible, when it is.
                          I don't think you need a "ton of carbs." I also don't think you need a "ton of fat." Eat real food and you'll naturally get enough of each. It's when you start exclusionary dieting - like ketosis or low carb BS out of macronutrient fear - that you run into problems.

                          Yes, I said preferred fuel source. Your body burns glucose preferrentially over fatty acids, it's not directly stored as body fat whereas fatty acids are, it is a more efficient fuel (your mitochondria will have a higher CO2 output on a diet with ample starch and fruit vs a low carbohydrate diet), it reduces levels of corsitol and adrenaline vs low carbohydrate diets, if you undereat glucose too regularly your body will break down lean muscle tissue into glucose to fuel your brain...I strongly recommend a diet where carbohydrate is ample.

                          Factor in that the overwhelming majority of traditional societies consume more starch than fat...well, it's pretty clear we produce amylase in our saliva for a reason. Starch was probably the most integral fuel source for our evolution as a species, especially considering for the overwhelming majority of our existence we survived in equatorial regions where fruit and starch is plentiful and animals are lean. Exactly how long have we been consuming very fatty game? Not very long considering we only recently migrated to cold temperature climates. You probably descended from people that ate a lot of carbohydrate. The difference is they ate fruits, tubers and roots, not grains and refined isolated sugars.

                          Obviously, YMMV, but I think a good rule of thumb is to consume 1-2g of carbohydrate for every gram of protein you consume to counteract the gulcagon response in a heavy fat/protein diet and keep yourself out of a chronic state of gluconeogenesis (which is stressful and catabolic). It's helped me a lot.
                          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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                          • #14
                            And if it is everyones preferred fuel source, why is it, at under 10% carbs, every day I am full of energy and feel amazing?
                            Shouldn't I be tired, and lethargic following your theory?

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                            • #15
                              What ever you say Chaco.
                              Remember EVERYONE is different. What works for you, doesn't always work for the next person.

                              I already said, but if I have that many carbs to keep up with the protein, I would not, and have not felt very good. Ive been there done that. What has made ME feel the best is HFLC. You can't say that its right for everyone.

                              You are wrong about it being our preferred fuel source, but hey I know you will never change your thoughts on that so moving on.

                              This place is starting to be somewhere I am not enjoying, due to all these so called primal people going on about things that are so far off what primal is all about, and know I know what made me leave last year

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