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  • #16
    Originally posted by PaleoMom View Post
    This is very much how I feel when I DO drink that stuff. Aspartame is really bad stuff. I notice the cleaner my body is the more the feeling is pronounced. I actually feel like aspartame is about the most toxic thing you can buy at the grocery store.
    Sure. Maybe I should try to inject the stuff then...
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

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    • #17
      Caffeine is a bitch to ditch. When I quit smoking, I had feelings of anxiety, and often wondered what to do with my hands. When I tried (misguidedly) to ditch all caffeine, I had headaches and turned into a total bitch. I love my espresso in the morning, and occasionally another no later than 5pm.

      Aspartame may be poison, but I still use between a half to one packet per day. I haven't noticed any difference when I completely abstain, but maybe if I used a lot and often I would.
      "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
        Worse than booze, but less withdrawal symptoms than meth and heroin I hope? I think it’s probably the total amount of caffeine, especially if you also drink some coffee or tea in addition or perhaps chocolate? I drink around the same amount as you and I can feel the caffeine effect sometimes, especially when also drinking coffee and tea throughout the day. No plan for quitting here though, I plan to continue as a Diet Coke junkie to the bitter end…
        Why? You're clearly not here for your health
        Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

        Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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        • #19
          Never had a soda habit, but I imagine cutting out coffee entirely would be like that for me. I could never imagine drinking soda excessively---that stuff burns going down.
          F 28/5'4/100 lbs

          "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by thedannymartin View Post
            Ha @Gorbag - Defo less than Heroin. (And booze without meds, which can be lethal obvs)

            I'm relived to know I'm not the only one who has fallen into this trap, just glad I'm getting out. It's taken me 3 weeks to sort of feel normal, hopefully next week I will be fighting fit.

            If I tried to drop the caffeine and dairy now aswell I'd probably just have to lock myself in a cage for a month
            Lots of us are still tea, yerba mate, and coffee drinkers, so there's no need to cut caffeine unless you think it may be adversely effecting you in some way. I've heard people say that caffeine is not "paleo-compliant" but then, I just read a book on the history of tea that says that there is evidence that ancient men who lived in the regions of China where the tea trees were native have probably been eating the leaves of the plant for over 20,000 years, so...
            "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by peril View Post
              Why? You're clearly not here for your health
              And you seem to be some kind of health moralist that knows clearly what's "healthy" and what's not? Everything may be toxic or unhealthy if overdoing it, even plain water, but so far I have been drinking diet Coke for more than tree decades without any related health issues whatsoever, so it may even turn out to be healthy...
              Last edited by Gorbag; 01-11-2013, 01:55 PM.
              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

              - Schopenhauer

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                And you seem to be some kind of health moralist that knows clearly what's "healthy" and what's not? Everything may be toxic or unhealthy if overdoing it, even plain water, but so far I have been drinking diet Coke for more than tree decades without any related health issues whatsoever, so it may even turn out to be healthy...
                Or you could get a brain tumor and die at 40. In which case we would all miss you of course.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                  Or you could get a brain tumor and die at 40. In which case we would all miss you of course.
                  At 40??? Been there done that, ten years since that number passed by! Look, there are no studies or indications that Diet Coke or Aspartame is unhealthy for humans. I have friends that got serious problems with coffee, and had to quit it, but does that mean that coffee is unhealthy then? Of course not, coffee drinkers have statistically been shown to live longer and by better health than non-coffee drinkers. Diet Coke may even show up to be very healthy, it has caffeine like other healthy drinks i.e. coffee, green and black tea and chocolate! It is also mildly diuretic, and for this reason I personally use it to get water to circulate in and through my body(=detox!) when fasting. So I find the absurd and irrational fear contra Diet coke pretty amusing myself, but some persons may always get problems with whatever they eat or drink…
                  "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                  - Schopenhauer

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                  • #24
                    Anyone can always find a study somewhere in the literature to justify/rationalize their habit. The fact remains however, that if you *need* a particular substance to feel human and feel like crap if it is withdrawn, then you are a junkie. So other than being a food, water, and air junkie, I think it is healthier to not let any chemical rule your world.

                    I can't drink coffee because it makes me have seizures. Is it going to make everyone have seizures? No, of course not. Is it safe to say, however that since it makes a vulnerable brain have seizures, it is probably not doing good things to other brains as well? I think so.

                    And 40 was an arbitrary number I picked out of the air. Would it be better to have a brain tumor at 60? That's when my mom got one. Oh, BTW, she was a big coffee and diet soda drinker. Anecdotal, I know but, as they say, just sayin'.....

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                    • #25
                      Okay here's my bias I've always felt that sugary drinks are for kids. I really can't fathom why an adult would want to drink sweets all day long. I can understand once in a great while, but every day!?
                      Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                        Okay here's my bias I've always felt that sugary drinks are for kids. I really can't fathom why an adult would want to drink sweets all day long. I can understand once in a great while, but every day!?
                        Why OK for kids?

                        Used to drink coke zero, never going back to that nasty stuff.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                          Why OK for kids?

                          Used to drink coke zero, never going back to that nasty stuff.
                          It's not really okay for kids, but I personally feel that super sweet stuff appeals to a less developed pallet. I'm sure that is opinionated of me and I will offend some by saying so, oh well.
                          Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                          • #28
                            Not offended, just a weird thing to say

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                              It's not really okay for kids, but I personally feel that super sweet stuff appeals to a less developed pallet. I'm sure that is opinionated of me and I will offend some by saying so, oh well.
                              Agreed. Foods that are unsweetened or not over salted reveal a complexity of flavour that a palate dulled by constant sweetness can't detect. Your only conjecture is in the child/adult ascription
                              Four years Primal with influences from Jaminet & Shanahan and a focus on being anti-inflammatory. Using Primal to treat CVD and prevent stents from blocking free of drugs.

                              Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                              • #30
                                I can't drink anything out of a can because I'm afraid there's a rat carcass on the bottom.
                                "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                                B*tch-lite

                                Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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