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    I am following the program in order to lose weight and I'm finding that I'm getting very tired of eating meat. I have 2 primal cookbooks and I just need a break some days. Can I switch off to old cheeses (ex: aged cheddar with vegetables or eggs) 50% of the time?

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    Try it and see how you feel. I eat lots of cheese. It is a rich source of vitamin K2. It can stop fat loss though. Experiment. 50% of the time might be too much.
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    • #3
      Most likely not, if your only goal is weight loss. You don't have to eat a ton of meat, there are these delicious things called vegetables.

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      • #4
        If you are just trying to lose weight it comes down to calories. There's no real need to suffer and not feel good about it. If your sick of it your probably doing something wrong.

        Cheese is good to go but just watch the calories you get from it. Bring in some nice animal fats, herbs and spices and enjoy your meals. Cut down on the meat if you eating big portions of it.

        It's about calories.
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        • #5
          Cheese is good up to a point so long as you have no intolerance

          What about seafood?
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          • #6
            Yes, and it's likely preferable

            there are these delicious things called vegetables
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            • #7
              Originally posted by jkr View Post
              Most likely not, if your only goal is weight loss. You don't have to eat a ton of meat, there are these delicious things called vegetables.
              I'm sure the OP was asking because they feel that protein intake would be low if they didn't focus a lot on meat, which is why cheese is in question.
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              • #8
                If you're trying to lose weight, dairy is one of the foods you should probably avoid. HOWEVER, this is entirely dependent upon your own individual results. MANY people have a difficult time losing weight so long as they continue to eat problematic foods such as dairy and unsprouted nuts/seeds, but this is certainly not true for all people.

                Try eating cheese for a week or two -- take note of how you look and feel (energy levels, bloating, etc.). If you start to feel more lethargic, develop skin issues, or feel bloated or puffy, remove it from your diet.

                Some alternative sources of protein: sprouted nuts and seeds, eggs, sprouted brown rice and sprouted quinoa (if you tolerate these well), potatoes and sweet potatoes.

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                • #9
                  If you're trying to lose weight, dairy is one of the foods you should probably avoid. HOWEVER, this is entirely dependent upon your own individual results. MANY people have a difficult time losing weight so long as they continue to eat problematic foods such as dairy and unsprouted nuts/seeds, but this is certainly not true for all people.

                  Try eating cheese for a week or two -- take note of how you look and feel (energy levels, bloating, etc.). If you start to feel more lethargic, develop skin issues, or feel bloated or puffy, remove it from your diet.

                  Some alternative sources of protein: sprouted nuts and seeds, eggs, sprouted brown rice and sprouted quinoa (if you tolerate these well), potatoes and sweet potatoes.

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                  • #10
                    I found that when I was losing my initial weight, cheese was no problem at all. Many lunches were little more than a hunk of goat cheese and some roasted veggies. Before I curbed my wild hunger pangs, I'd often have a slice of cheese when I got home to satiate. Sometimes all-veggie dishes don't stick to the ribs, so I'd make gratins (cauliflower, e.g.) or dishes incorporating cheese. It's all good if you don't overdo it. The idea is to have enough richness that you don't need to overeat, and won't feel hunger calling again later.

                    It's really something I think you need to try out and see if it works for you.

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                    • #11
                      Once in a while my evening meal is a block of cheese and a bottle of wine.. Primal? Maybe.. Yummy, most definitely.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by tarek View Post
                        If you're trying to lose weight, dairy is one of the foods you should probably avoid. HOWEVER, this is entirely dependent upon your own individual results. MANY people have a difficult time losing weight so long as they continue to eat problematic foods such as dairy and unsprouted nuts/seeds, but this is certainly not true for all people.

                        Try eating cheese for a week or two -- take note of how you look and feel (energy levels, bloating, etc.). If you start to feel more lethargic, develop skin issues, or feel bloated or puffy, remove it from your diet.

                        Some alternative sources of protein: sprouted nuts and seeds, eggs, sprouted brown rice and sprouted quinoa (if you tolerate these well), potatoes and sweet potatoes.
                        +1. I love milk, but milk doesn't love me, so I had to remove it from my diet and my waist thanked me. I use a splash of heavy cream in my tea in the mornings, though, without problems.

                        As to your original question about cheese, I use cheese all the time. It's another condiment for me. I don't eat chunks of it, but a fair amount melted on my eggs in the morning or grated into a salad - yum. Just make sure that you are calculating the calories - they do matter - and keep your total calories at whatever level it is that you're using for your weight loss.

                        Also, get a good cheese if you can. I'm a huge fan of the Kerrygold Dubliner. It's a drier, milder cheddar. They have one called Ballyshannon which is a little moister and a little sharper - I don't care for that one as much. I always make sure I have a block of the Dubliner in the fridge, though. I can't have eggs in the morning without it any more.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by slowcooker View Post
                          Once in a while my evening meal is a block of cheese and a bottle of wine.. Primal? Maybe.. Yummy, most definitely.
                          Yep, done that too. Call it a Mediterranean platter, and add some olives, grapes, maybe some nice salume, a few raw oysters, or even some high-quality anchovies. Pick at this, pick at that, soon enough hunger is gone, yummy.

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                          • #14
                            I like cheese and think it's a perfectly good diet food for me.

                            A pound of cheese is only about 1200-1800 calories depending on type. I can add in more veg than I want to deal with, have a few eggs, and still be running a significant kcal deficit after eating that. As an added benefit, a pound of cheese in a day can seem like a fair amount, at least to me.

                            In the last week I've probably eaten two pounds of cheese, and by that I mean that I cut open a 1-pound cheese in the morning and ate the last of it before bed. I've been steadily losing. Of course I'm not going to do that every day because good cheese is more expensive than good meat but from a CICO and a macro balance perspective cheese doesn't seem too awful. Brie is something like 57:42:1 by weight, or around 74:25:1 by calories, fat : protein : carb, just as an example.

                            Obviously you don't want to go overboard, but a pound in a day seems reasonable assuming you are really replacing something else, instead of adding it as a snack.
                            Last edited by Him; 01-09-2013, 02:14 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hedonist2 View Post
                              Try it and see how you feel. I eat lots of cheese. It is a rich source of vitamin K2. It can stop fat loss though. Experiment. 50% of the time might be too much.
                              Why do you say that this can stop fat loss?

                              Is it the caloric density of these cheeses... or something else?
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