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  • I feel worse than before going Primal. Any suggestions??

    I recently started eating Primal (7 weeks ago) and since I've started I feel worse than I did before. I'm about 15lbs overweight so I wanted to lose some weight and generally just feel better day in and day out. I was pretty healthy before going Primal. (No processed foods, fast food, etc) and still felt a bit sluggish so I decided to go Primal. Recently I've felt even more sluggish, anxiety, random aches and pains, chest pains (short spurts) and generally less healthy. I even visited the doctor and he thinks that I'm struggling with GERD and gave me nexium (which I didn't take). I thought that primal/paleo diets get rid of gerd but that's another topic all together.
    So, my longwinded questions is: Have you had anyone that had similiar effects after going primal/paleo? And do you have any suggestions or common mistakes that people make when making the switch from a normal diet to paleo? I just don't feel very healthy and really want to feel ALIVE again!
    Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

  • #2
    Your body is healing. You feel like crap while your body repairs and recovers.

    Give it some more time to adjust before you give up on it.
    "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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    • #3
      What Drumroll said. It's commonly referred to as carb-flu and it's pretty typical during the first few transitional weeks. Hell, I get carb flu if I fall of the wagon for a few days. Your body is essentially withdrawing from the sugar bombs it was used to with regular grain consumption. It'll pass, and soon you'll feel amazing!

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      • #4
        What version of primal. Give us examples of your daily fare

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        • #5
          I'm right there with you. Same story. I don't know what happened today but something changed. I was so pissed last night. I just couldn't take it any more. So, this morning I started on lypo-sheric vitamin C with every meal and have been studying Buteyko breathing. Anything to feel good again. I ate some kimchi with my eggs this morning and that cleared me out. Ever since I just felt different. Better in a way. My heart is thumping right now which has become common. But my head is clear. I suppose that is the new change. At least, my head is clear. I'm pretty sure I have hyperinsulinemia and hypoglycemia and probably several other things but today has given me hope.

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          • #6
            Drummer1, first, you did the right thing with visiting the Doc. Ultimately you have to be the judge on the diet. As someone mentioned, it would help if you tell us what you're eating on an average day.

            As for me, I know when I went Primal, my chronic heartburn disappeared almost immediately. I was taking 2 Pepcid Complete everyday before switching. Now, on the very rare occassion I get heartburn, it's because I decided to "treat" myself and eat a bunch of sugar.

            We can all tell you to stick it out, make it past the carb-flu, but you have to make the decision yourself. Also, if you think there may be something wrong, have your Doc monitor you while you are getting used to Primal eating. See if things are changing for the positive after another month or so.

            Good luck!
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            • #7
              Can you give us an honest example of what your daily menu and workout plan looks like? It is hard to help without those details. I had horrible allergies/indigestion and reflux that almost immediately went away and never came back when I went strict Paleo.
              "If man made it, don't eat it" - Jack Lallane

              People say I am on a "crazy" diet. What is so crazy about eating veggies, fruits, seafood and organ meats? Just because I don't eat whole wheat and processed food doesn't make my diet "crazy". Maybe everyone else with a SAD are the "crazy" ones for putting that junk in their system.

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              • #8
                Diet is just one (albeit very important!) aspect of living primally. What is your sleep like? How about stress? Are you making time for exercise and play? You can be eating perfectly primally but if you're stressed to the gills, overworked and underslept and haven't made time to have a social life in those past seven weeks, you're gonna feel like crap.

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                • #9
                  Go see an ND, L.Ac! You can spend the next year hacking 20 different things or you can go to a doctor that actually knows about this stuff.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jkr View Post
                    Go see an ND, L.Ac! You can spend the next year hacking 20 different things or you can go to a doctor that actually knows about this stuff.
                    Trouble is they don't always.
                    It could be lots of factors, once he answers all the above questions, there may be a solution for him.

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                    • #11
                      I agree about doctors. I have a very good gastro, but for GERD or heartburn, all he wants to do is prescribe something like Nexium. Doctors are brainwashed in med school to solve all health issues with meds.

                      For me, most heartburn was gone when I eliminated grains. However, if I have excess fat, I will experience heartburn, and I tend to more moderate fat because of that.

                      Different things trigger heartburn for people, and it's best to assess yourself to see if you can identify the culprit.

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                      • #12
                        My GERD came back last Whole 30 I did. I think it was tomatoes plus a lot more fat.

                        Sometimes good foods can hurt some people.

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                        • #13
                          My guess is you have gone low carb and are suffering from the initial loss of water/salt/potassium that is purged from the kidneys. I felt so horrible around week 5 I thought I needed to go to the hospital. I took salt (licked it off my hand), potassium tablets, magnesium tablets and felt a lot better in a few hours. This would be unrelated to heartburn issues though. I have heard that some people do not find relief for some digestive problems with paleo alone and for others it takes a long time. This lady writes about it often.
                          Treating GERD with the paleo diet | Melissa McEwen on food anthropology, economics, and culture
                          Proton Pump Inhibitors Suck | Melissa McEwen on food anthropology, economics, and culture
                          Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jkr View Post
                            Go see an ND, L.Ac! You can spend the next year hacking 20 different things or you can go to a doctor that actually knows about this stuff.
                            I agree with this. I went to a D.O. for years who just gave me pills for my symptoms- or ignored them entirely- denied me tests and directly resulted in me going undiagnosed for thyroid disease for 9 years plus a milk allergy, the former causing me to gain 90 lbs and the latter giving me acid reflux for which I took Prevacid for 9 years which has now been linked to bone loss and catastrophic spiral fractures. I finally herniated a disc in my back due to all the weight gain.

                            That caused me to switch to an N.D., LAc - first for acupuncture for my debilitating back pain. Then she diagnosed me with Hashimotos thyroiditis after blood work, and after her recommendation that I follow an anti-inflammatory diet temporarily to determine if I had food allergies we discovered that I had a dairy allergy. I am now 95% of normal on my back, my Hashi's is under control and I've lost nearly 50 lbs, and my acid reflux has been resolved for almost 2 years and I don't take any medication any more for it. Not even the occasional Tums.

                            I'm a huge proponent of Naturopathic Medicine. It literally changed my life, and continues to. My N.D. is my primary care physician. Without drugs, I get sick less and am far healthier than I ever was under allopathic care. Allopathic doctors have a tendency to focus on symptoms- and to treat symptoms with drugs. Naturopathic doctors focus on the root cause and treat the root cause with dietary changes, exercise, herbs, etc. It puts the individual back in control of their health, instead of Big Pharma.
                            High Weight: 225
                            Weight at start of Primal: 189
                            Current Weight: 174
                            Goal Weight: 130

                            Primal Start Date: 11/26/2012

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by EagleRiverDee View Post
                              Naturopathic doctors focus on the root cause and treat the root cause with dietary changes, exercise, herbs, etc. It puts the individual back in control of their health, instead of Big Pharma.
                              Yes this is exactly why I am studying to be a Naturopath/Animal homeopath

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