Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Shangri-La Diet - setpoint success at last

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Jenn, next time put your tablespoon of coconut oil in a coffee mug,
    add about 1/2oz of water, put it in the microwave, melt it for a couple
    seconds (let it sit until it ALL looks like water, and don't drink it if
    it's still super hot! stick your finger in it to test!) and then drink
    it like a shot.

    I found that trying to "eat" the coconut oil was absolutely freaking DISGUSTING,
    but drinking it was a breeze.

    Julie

    Comment


    • Geez, Julie, where do you get all that energy from?! Those are some impressive deficit figures.

      Comment


      • Well, first off, I'm a stay at home mom with SIX GLORIOUS HOURS TO MYSELF, and
        have had those hours now, with both boys in school, for 2.5yrs (kindergarten only counts
        as half because they're only in school for 3hours... sigh, but now they're BOTH in the big
        grades!).

        So that in itself is inspiring.

        Also, knowing that The Sweet Life will expire when my eldest gets to high school (3.5 more
        years) and that my candy ass will have to go back to work, is ALSO inspiring to do
        whateverthehellIwantalldayeveryday.

        I started working when I was 14 (I'm 44 now) so being off these past 11 years has been BEYOND
        glorious.

        People always ask me "how do you fill your day?" WTF? Like what, a hobby? Volunteering? taking my
        kids from one activity to the other? OH HELL NO.

        Either I spend it sitting on my ass watching the People's Court, or I'm out walking or hiking or going
        to the gym, or bike rides or rollerskating or you name it! I'm doing it.

        But I hate cleaning, so I do all the rest to procrastinate.

        And yes, I do volunteer at school every Monday so there's that...

        So basically, bottom line, I get all my energy from seizing the moment, my
        11+ years of freedom and appreciating EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT.

        It's hard to explain, but I thank my lucky stars EVERY DAY for the freedom I
        have, cuz I know it's not going to last forever.

        So that makes me very hyper... har.

        And, I'm a very energetic and happy person as it is.....

        What 44 year old mom do you know, corrupts their soon to be 11yo by
        taking him onto the elementary school roof at dusk, like SHE used to
        do when SHE was that age?

        Same elementary school too... My boys go to MY school.

        Hilarious.

        Needless to say, the soon to be 11yo was THRILLED beyond comprehension,
        and I got/get to re-live my youth... even though it was a LOT harder climbing
        up the 15 foot cyclone fence at 44 than it was at 11.... ahem.

        Welp, I'm off to walk to Walgreens now for my magnesium.... OH MY THRILLING LIFE! Hahahhahhaa!

        ~Anonymous

        Comment


        • Wow! Congrats, Julie! Your results are awwwesooome!! And I'm SOOOOO jealous!!

          Er, ketosis didn't really work for me, but I was doing a cyclic ketogenic diet thing where I'd carb up on the weekend in order to replenish my glycogen stores for interval training (because, you know, Mark said that if you did sprints in a state of glycogen depletion, you'd get metabolic problems or whatever--not sure that those are but don't want to get them anyway).

          I seriously don't think I can bring myself to not work out for 10 days. The stress of knowing that I'm not working out will probably drive me crazy and cause me to gain weight because, you know, stress is supposed to cause weight gain.

          My journal

          Comment


          • That's awesome, Julie! I'm doing my PhD so I work from home and I have no terrors - I mean, children - yet and am free to spend my day as I please while DH is at work. BUT there's only so much slacking I can do because, you know, I have a 300-page dissertation to write.

            Also, everyone hates cleaning. Anybody who claims otherwise is a big fat stinking liar.

            And serenity, I don't think I could handle 7-10 days of zero physical activity. I don't think I would necessarily start stressing over it, but I know my back and hips would start getting tight. I will definitely go for leisurely walks or a light yoga class, or just stretch at home. But nothing more intense than a yoga class or two during an off week.

            Comment


            • I melted the coconut oil yesterday afternoon and that worked better - thanks! Then I found something to bring some of my jug of ELOO (I make a lot of homemade mayo!) in to work and that was even better. Faster and no taste. Once I have a chance to buy refined coconut oil I'll probably switch between the two, but I'll stick with the ELOO until then - the taste of the virgin coconut oil I had on hand just is too difficult to get rid of quickly.

              Comment


              • @serenity - thanks! I'm glad something is finally happening... it was getting
                a little depressing there for a second. Even if I stay where I am now, and I can
                wear them thar jeans that I paid 50 bucks each for (I bought 3 pair), FINE BY ME.

                With regard to Mark, I know that everyone is different and stuff, but when I went
                keto in 2007 for a year, I did sprints just fine. 5, 20 second sprints at 9mph with
                5 minutes of walking in between each one.

                As long as you're fully fat adapted, it's easy as pie.

                Well, at least it was for me, cuz I'm a freak like that....

                @unchantenfrance - Oh I hear you - if I had an actual JOB to get done whilst I was
                at home and no kids, I wouldn't be able to slack either. The laundry that still sits
                behind me on my bed, is different though. It'll get to me sooner or later and I JUST
                might fold it and put it all away. Maybe when I add the extra load that's in the dryer
                right now. Sigh.

                I justify slacking 99% of the time because A.) I'm a Libra and I can make EVERYTHING
                weigh out in my direction if I think hard enough. And B.) I'm the most hands-on mother
                on the planet (okay, okay, I do NOT do crafts or freaking coloring) and spend every waking
                moment with my children (when they're not at school of course), so that really REALLY justifies
                me doing whatever I want, until they move out. Bwahahahahahaha!

                On the exercise front while going keto, I didn't mean do nottttttttttttttttttthing, like zero, like
                watch soaps all day or something. Sure, still walk lots and even non-strenuous yoga if you wanna,
                just nothing crazy, like sprints or hills on the treadmill or heavy duty cardio classes. Stuff like that.

                I guess I should have taken a page from my own book, if I wasn't too steeyoupid to remember, but
                back in 2008 I decided to do ZERO cardio (dedicated cardio that is, like described above, balls
                OUT cardio) and just weight train 3 days a week. For 6 months I did that and wouldn't you
                know it, that was when I lost the most and looked the best. Even, gasp, in a bikini.

                @Jenn - yeah, the flavor of the coconut oil DOES linger a lot longer than the olive oil. I just mouth
                breathe, looking like a real idiot for about 5 minutes after I do my coconut oil, then it's all gone.

                Big Tip Of The Day: Do NOT use fish oil for SLD.

                I thought that yesterday I'd kill two birds with one stone and have my Carson's or is it Carlson's?
                liquid fish oil, lemon flavored.... Shot it back, feeling virtuous that I got my oil in, and fish oil
                at that, but man, the flavor took forEVER go to away. Mouth breathed forever, and then disgustingly
                enough, burped up lemon fish flavor for THE REST OF THE DAY. No matter WHAT I ATE after that,
                still fish. GA-ROSS.

                All righty, welp, there's my caffeine inspired post for the day.

                Julie

                Comment


                • Hi good folks. Yet again I am gonna try to shift my eating pattern to the am, so yesterday I started taking oil between breakfast and lunch. Fingers crossed!

                  I guess I should have taken a page from my own book, if I wasn't too steeyoupid to remember, but
                  back in 2008 I decided to do ZERO cardio (dedicated cardio that is, like described above, balls
                  OUT cardio) and just weight train 3 days a week. For 6 months I did that and wouldn't you
                  know it, that was when I lost the most and looked the best. Even, gasp, in a bikini.
                  I have a corresponding experience of looking my bestest when I was not doing any structured exercise, but moved slowly via walking in the gentle mountains and swimming in the sea for about a month. Granted, I was 20 yo back then too. But, I think there is something in the prolonged periods of slow movement that is the most efficient fat burner, while dedicated cardio could be too much of a stressor. Unfortunately, replicating this experience is nearly impossible, though in Cuba for a week I did not gain weight despite eating all-inclusive, and all i did was swimming and walking on the beach.
                  My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                  When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by Leida View Post
                    Hi good folks. Yet again I am gonna try to shift my eating pattern to the am, so yesterday I started taking oil between breakfast and lunch. Fingers crossed!



                    I have a corresponding experience of looking my bestest when I was not doing any structured exercise, but moved slowly via walking in the gentle mountains and swimming in the sea for about a month. Granted, I was 20 yo back then too. But, I think there is something in the prolonged periods of slow movement that is the most efficient fat burner, while dedicated cardio could be too much of a stressor. Unfortunately, replicating this experience is nearly impossible, though in Cuba for a week I did not gain weight despite eating all-inclusive, and all i did was swimming and walking on the beach.
                    I'm guessing you're a fellow Canuck since you went to Cuba? I normally don't gain weight in all-inclusives either, nor did I gain anything this summer when I was out of the country for 3 months and all I did was walk a lot and do a bit of yoga in my room (and I was in France of all places and did not deprive myself of cheese and pastries, lemme tell ya). I've been doing the oil shots on and off the last couple of weeks - the scale ain't moving but I think the fat on my tummy and thighs is shifting slightly. My mind could be playing tricks on me though, so I don't know. In any case, I'm mindful of my calories and doing the shots when I feel I need them. Steady as she goes.......

                    Comment


                    • Yanno, it's tough, cuz the more I lose, the more excited and energetic
                      I feel.

                      Not just because of the number on the scale but because, well, I have
                      more energy!

                      Today at the gym I did my full body weight routine and was going to go
                      home and do nothing more exercise wise, but I just couldn't.

                      So I went against what I knew was right and did sprints instead.

                      Not because I felt my workout was lacking, or that I neeeeeeded to because
                      of some effed up way of thinking, but because I WANTED TOO.

                      So, six sprints of 25 seconds each at 9mph with 3 minutes of 3mph in between.

                      And NOW I will do nothing for the rest of the day.

                      Well, yanno, besides my usual stuff with the kids and all.

                      Also, weighed in today and have a new low of 119.8.

                      Haven't seen that, in, um, like years, yo.

                      So January 17th to March 19th, started at 128.8, now 119.8 = 9lbs
                      lost. Not too bad I guess.

                      But then, I know a good 3lbs of it was/is water, cuz I *have* gone
                      keto at the same time.

                      Everything is measuring smaller though too, so I'll take it!

                      Unchantenfrance - stuff certainly does shift without seeing anything
                      on the scale. I stalled out at 124.8 for about 2 or three weeks, but
                      I noticed during my wake up routine in the morning (where I lie there
                      and TRY and wake up for 10 minutes before making lunches for all my MEN),
                      that when I brought my knees up (feet flat on the mattress) that where my
                      thighs used to touch a LOT, don't anymore. I was like, "what? really? how can
                      that be?"

                      And, nothing ever comes off from where you want it to first for crying out
                      loud.

                      For me, in order:

                      back fat
                      forearms (what?)
                      calves
                      boobs
                      thighs
                      sidecar timmy and tommy ("lovehandles")
                      stomach

                      SO annoying, but, whatever works.

                      Just *love* the forearms though. Please, they're already
                      only 9 inches around to begin with. Gimme a break.

                      Julie

                      Comment


                      • I'm guessing you're a fellow Canuck since you went to Cuba? I normally don't gain weight in all-inclusives either, nor did I gain anything this summer when I was out of the country for 3 months and all I did was walk a lot and do a bit of yoga in my room (and I was in France of all places and did not deprive myself of cheese and pastries, lemme tell ya). I've been doing the oil shots on and off the last couple of weeks - the scale ain't moving but I think the fat on my tummy and thighs is shifting slightly. My mind could be playing tricks on me though, so I don't know. In any case, I'm mindful of my calories and doing the shots when I feel I need them. Steady as she goes.......
                        Yep, I am in Calgary Fingers crossed for you!

                        And, nothing ever comes off from where you want it to first for crying out
                        loud.

                        For me, in order:

                        back fat
                        forearms (what?)
                        calves
                        boobs
                        thighs
                        sidecar timmy and tommy ("lovehandles")
                        stomach

                        SO annoying, but, whatever works.

                        Just *love* the forearms though. Please, they're already
                        only 9 inches around to begin with. Gimme a break.
                        You are so on it, Julie! It always sits where you want it the least! Stupid fat! though I am now having a priveledge of having belly fat. Never had it before. I am trying to tell myself it's uterus, LOL, but yeah, it's fat.
                        My Journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread57916.html
                        When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.

                        Comment


                        • I know! So annoying!

                          My mother always used to say, with regard to fat gain:

                          "first on, last off"

                          And it's so damn true (darn her!), and quite the reason
                          that when one DOES try something new eating wise, you
                          really need to stick with it for a good long time to see if
                          it works or not.

                          I didn't even NOTICE the back fat going until I put my
                          Super Serious Sports Bra on and could put it on the
                          inner most hooks.

                          I had to take it off and look at it to make sure it was
                          the right one.

                          Whatever!

                          I totally crashed and burned at "doing nothing" the rest of the
                          day yesterday.

                          I had so much damn energy that I cleaned my kitchen within an inch
                          of it's life (two hours) and then the family room too.

                          Bodybugg said I burned 2600 calories and I had 15K steps in.....

                          Today is going to be incredibly low key though because I have
                          a headache because my stupid mother effing, G-D period is effing
                          8 days early!

                          No WONDER I wanted to slap the snot out of my husband last night.

                          I always know SOMETHING is up when he annoys me, cuz he never does.

                          We're total besties and never fight or anything but last night every single
                          thing he did infuriated me.

                          And, well, now I know why. Grumble, grumble. Not fair.

                          Last three months were spot on (har har) at 28 days, but this one, 21.


                          I BLAME YOU ALL

                          Comment


                          • Checking in with this thread to say hi and I hope everyone is doing well!

                            Also, something new to report: my daily calorie needs have steadily gone up in the past couple of months. Remember how I was suddenly feeling hungry again a while ago, so I increased my calories and the AS kicked in again? Well, imagine that same phenomenon, only on a more constant basis. I've now increased my food calories to 1500-1600 per day, with the same 300 calories coming from my oil shot. And guess what? I'm still losing.

                            My calorie intake is now closer to the "correct" level for my activity level. According to the various calculators out there, my BMR is around 1500 and my TDEE is around 2200. When I started this journey back in December, eating 1200 food calories plus 300 oil calories per day was the only way I could lose weight. I was basically eating AT my BMR, which for someone who does Crossfit 5x/week is crazy low, but it's the only way my body would let go of fat. Since I've been doing the Shangi-La Diet, the caloric intake at which my body would let go of fat has steadily increased. A couple weeks ago, I was eating 1300 calories per day, and started feeling really tired, run-down, wasn't sleeping well, and my muscles were too sore--classic signs of overtraining. I decided to bump my calories way up, as an experiment, with my hypothesis being: Is my metabolism actually functioning normally now, and can I actually start eating at a level to fuel my workouts and forget about fat loss? In the past, eating at a level to fuel my workouts meant either maintaining or gaining fat. But now, I'm hitting a total of 1800-1900 cal/day, and my BF% is still dropping, and my workouts have been going SO WELL.

                            I know this is all completely unscientific, but I seriously believe that the SLD has fixed my metabolism. It used to be that I'd plug in my numbers to the calculators, and they'd spit out a calorie level that was supposed to make me lose weight, and it'd be a good 500 calories above my actual weight-loss point. Now, my numbers are where they're SUPPOSED to be. My body is finally behaving the way science says it should. I cannot even begin to express what a huge deal this is for me. I feel like I've unlocked the secret to getting the body I want, not only fat-loss-wise, but also workout-fuel-wise. I'm so thrilled.

                            Comment


                            • Wow! Great report, heatseeker! Thanks for the caloric detail. I always knew there was something effective about the SLD approach, even if it hadn't been fully explained yet. What great results!

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by marthat View Post
                                Wow! Great report, heatseeker! Thanks for the caloric detail. I always knew there was something effective about the SLD approach, even if it hadn't been fully explained yet. What great results!
                                Uh-oh, I'm sensing that your wheels are turning now! IF+potato+SLD oil shot...you may be on to something big! Work it, girl...

                                Heatseeker - great job, this thread started out kind of hokey, but I think there really is something to SLD. Glad you kept it up.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X