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  • Well, I didn't maintain today, but I didn't bust into 153... just went down .2lb to 154.6. Eyeroll. The glacial loss/maintain periods between "whoosh" periods are sort of hilariously frustrating. But I think the great thing about SLD is that I have faith that there is another whoosh on the horizon! I just have to be patient.

    As far as food/calories, my body is extremely happy right now with the 1200 food calories per day + 2 oil shots. Totally satiated, never feel hunger, and my workouts have been baller all week. And I'm still losing. So I think I can safely say that my first big lesson of SLD is the following:

    1. If your oil amounts and food amounts don't change, and your appetite suppression starts to go away, you will stop losing and maybe gain a little (I gained back 3 pounds when my AS went away).
    2. Shake things up by switching oil and increasing your calories slightly until the AS kicks in again. Even with the increased caloric level, you will go back to losing.

    I realize that may not be one-size-fits-all, but that was my experience of the past month.

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    • Hi heatseeker!

      Hmmmm... Interesting thread you have here. I just started reading this a.m. I just might partake. Thanks for posting!
      I have a mantra that I have spouted for years... "If I eat right, I feel right. If I feel right, I exercise right. If I exercise right, I think right. If I think right, I eat right..." Phil-SC

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      • I switched to refined CO from raw CO this morning. I can't believe how completely flavorless it is! It is nice to not have to nose plug. I'm hoping this will work better for me.

        I've been gaining .2 daily completely due to my eating like a horse. My appetite has just been through the roof. So far SLD has only caused me to eat WAY more. On the positive side though a .2 increase each day is shockingly low for me considering the way I have been eating everything in sight. I would normally be up several pounds by now.

        I'm continuing on. I feel encouraged reading the SLD forum and seeing that those already close to ideal can take 7 weeks for AS to kick in. I'm 5'7" 133.8 today and trying to get to about 125-7
        PaleoMom's Diet Recovery Journal
        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread82059.html

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        • Heatseeker - are you taking measurements as well?

          I know for a FACT (cuz I know everything, cuz I'm older than you, ha ha haha) that
          your baller workouts are keeping you from seeing anything on the scale.

          U dun be tearin' it up woman! And that's totally awesome. But I bet if you took
          a week or more off x-fit (not advising this, just saying), the scale would go down.
          It's too busy holding onto water and repairing those muscles.

          When I was weight training like a MAD WOMAN, I just could NOT get past 119
          on the scale, but, my UNDERWEAR was falling off of me. Underwear? Really? Really.

          Anyway, I know you probably know all this (just pretend you didn't to preserve my
          feeling of hierarchy), just wanted to give you a reminder, cuz I'm a mom like that.

          How tall are you again?

          @Lala - I'm using refined coconut oil in the morning and regular old olive oil in the
          afternoon. I just mouth breathe for about 5 minutes after shooting it so I never
          taste the horrific flavor (olive oil isn't my favorite, but the thickness seems to do
          something to my brain - keeps me satiated LONGER, but the CO is way easier).

          I can't WAIT to get on the scale.

          Stupid LadyTime messing everything up with the damn BLOAT, but I know shit be
          a happenin' because I didn't even have to unbutton or unzip my jeans to get them
          off yesterday. HA!

          My husband asked "are those MY jeans?".

          No, stupid.

          Dummy men!

          Julie

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          • I bet if you took
            a week or more off x-fit (not advising this, just saying), the scale would go down.
            It's too busy holding onto water and repairing those muscles.

            When I was weight training like a MAD WOMAN, I just could NOT get past 119
            on the scale, but, my UNDERWEAR was falling off of me. Underwear? Really? Really.
            Oh, I totally, totally know. And I can tell my body is recomping like crazy. The majority of the 16lbs I've lost on SLD happened within the two weeks we were off Crossfit for winter break, and I was sick at the same time so I wasn't working out. Inactivity + oil shots = the weight just fell off like crazy.

            I'd be happy if I hit 150 and did nothing but recomp from there on out, without any scale change. I'm 5'6", so I think a muscular 150 is appropriate. But I do want to get to 150 (and a little part of me wants to get to 145, tbh!).

            We're entering Crossfit Open season, so my training's only going to go up from here on out (but the flipside is that I will be eating suuuuuuuuper clean). It'll be interesting to see how my SLD-ing will be affected. I have no intention of stopping SLD, but I wonder if I'll lose my AS and need to increase my calories again. We shall see!

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            • I'd be happy if I hit 150 and did nothing but recomp from there on out, without any scale change. I'm 5'6", so I think a muscular 150 is appropriate. But I do want to get to 150 (and a little part of me wants to get to 145, tbh!).
              Heatseeker:
              SOO happy to see someone else who is 5'6 and NOT trying to be 110 lbs! Even when young, I was 135 lbs and SKINNY. someone our height at 110 or even 120 seems like it would not be healthy...but I guess each body is different. I would not mind losing a few lbs and beingf 145 again. So far SLD has not produced weight loss for me, although I am eating 600-700 calories LESS and getting FULL so easily. and i mean truly FULL as in i cannot eat again for hours. that hasnt been the case in ....maybe never? i would always eat, then a short while later, want to eat again. so there have been some very positive changes, but not yet weight loss. i have only been going on for about 2.5 weeks, and i am loving not needing/wanting to eat much.
              just a note: i DO have an appetite, but i simply cannot eat the quantity i ate before. i used eat about 5 eggs,(and butter) 3 cups of wilted spinach and maybe some sauteed mushrooms, and coffee with cream and STILL eat more short while later - NOT anymore!! now i have to remind myself to only cook 2-3 eggs, and a small amout of greens, because i cant finish more than that, and i will be truly full for most of the day. YEAH!! Thanks for this post - it has finally made things so much better for me.

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              • HopelessDreamer, I know, I'm always confused by people who are my height and like 30-40lbs less weight. We must have SUCH different body types to make that possible! Plus, forget muscles, if I wanted to be 110lbs the first order of business would be a breast reduction, and that's like 20lbs right there.

                I don't care what the scale says, when I get to the point where I don't have extra flab to pinch, I'll be happy. (Not that I'm not happy right now. I think in all this diet talk, we can often lose sight of the joy and gratitude we should have for our healthy, capable bodies. But just because I love how healthy and capable my body is doesn't mean there aren't some flaws I want to fix.)

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                • My husband has decided to start this along with me... and I'm also trying the shot of oil first thing in the morning, and then waiting an hour for coffee &/or food.

                  Still waiting on the whooosh...

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                  • I'm 5'6" as well, and thanks to a small bone structure, 150 lbs (where I'm at right this minute) is about 20 lbs of excess fat (and believe me, it's not in my boobs!) My fat % on my Tanita scale is 32% or more - too much. So it's often about the bones. My wedding band is a size 4. I had a girlfriend whose wedding band was a size 9. We were the same height and the same weight ( about 135-140 back then - we're talking decades ago), and she was slim and flatbellied, I was pearshaped, soft and squishy.

                    We're all different.

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                    • Hi everyone!

                      So i have been reading up on this thread and on Friday decided I was going to give it a shot! I started taking a shot of CO in the morning and one in the afternoon. My first meal of the day is around noon and my last is about 5:00.I have not been hungry at all! I wasn't going to weigh myself until tomorrow, But I couldn't resist ( big weakness of mine ). Well since last Wednesday I am down 2.3 pounds.I love this and it is just so easy!

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                      • Originally posted by marthat View Post
                        I'm 5'6" as well, and thanks to a small bone structure, 150 lbs (where I'm at right this minute) is about 20 lbs of excess fat (and believe me, it's not in my boobs!) My fat % on my Tanita scale is 32% or more - too much. So it's often about the bones. My wedding band is a size 4. I had a girlfriend whose wedding band was a size 9. We were the same height and the same weight ( about 135-140 back then - we're talking decades ago), and she was slim and flatbellied, I was pearshaped, soft and squishy.

                        We're all different.
                        It just amazes me. There's a girl who works at the Lululemon I frequent who's an inch or so taller than me, and TINY, like her actual bones and frame are itty-bitty. I bet I have 50 pounds on her. Sometimes I look at her, or at, like, pro basketball players, and I'm like, how are we the same species? Soooooo much variation in the way height/weight shakes out.

                        Well, last night was our big "challenge finale" party, where we got our results, got our "after" pics taken, and then pigged out on all the food we hadn't been allowed all month (they were all paleo treats, but we hadn't been allowed sugar of any kind, so it was a total chocolate-fest). I took it really easy and just had a little bit of everything. Even taking it easy, I woke up with the biggest sugar hangover! Ugh. I feel terrible. Back to no more sugar for me.

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                        • That's awesome a chocolate fest haha. I am 5'6 too. I always looked smaller than I was. (back in the day) When I was 160 my hubby swore I was 140. Didn't mind. Can't wait to get down there again.

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                          • very cool, how the bone structure makes so much difference! I dont have much boob to begin with, so the extra weight is not there!!
                            Also, I seem to have lost a pound this morning, so it just took time to kick in. We'll see if it lasts.

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                            • Is it OK to just eat a shot of coconut oil without having it in liquid form? I don't own a microwave.

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                              • Damn all you 5'6-ers! I WANT TO BE 5'6!

                                Anyway, Tee, yes, you can take it solid as well, doesn't matter,
                                just as long as you can't taste it and you can choke it down, go for it.

                                Julie

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