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  • Let me . Just say that I am NOT in Shangri LaLa or even close. Paleo? Not that either. But I'm here and . Love hearing how you all are doing. Polish food was not conducive to eating much else than potatoes. Food was sorely lacking. Arrived via night train to Prague at 7:30 this morning and walked city until we could get into the hotel. Already found great roasted veggies at the pizza someplace next door. I have never seen so many freaking tourists as Prague. We just have to avoid them.

    I'm home in a week.carry on having fun without me. I want ribs too!
    Congrats with the lowered set point abs.
    Janie, . I hope you're building muscle.

    Hate kindle typing, miss my iPad.

    Having great time with Zach!

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    • i'm here. was busy, then Jewish New Year....too many sweeet thingz! ugh - my belly looks pregnant. not a good look, just makes me look like a matronly old lady.
      back on the wagon tomorrow, with a fast, then oil shots and paleo. I think psychologically I let myself "eat all the things" is because I am going to try an Auto-immune Whole 30 in October. So there are things I may never eat again, depending on how I feel. I'm just tired of aches and pains that dont heal.
      I'll report back eventually, maybe when my bloat goes away and I feel more like my healthier self.

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      • Lee, having a great time with Zach is really all that matters right now!!!!!

        I hope you two have a FANTASTIC rest of your trip!! Yeah!

        HD, like I said, I had a glorious FOUR FULL DAYS of debauchery last weekend
        with 3000 calories a day of PURE CRAP (candy and cookies). Didn't seem to do
        much but make ME look pregnant too AND feel a little gross for my "back on the
        wagon" day, but that's all over with now.

        I've actually been thinking about doing a whole 30 as well, but I have to get through
        my half gallon of heavy cream first.

        Some would say to just dump it, but homey don't play that. I can wait. It's not killing me,
        the whole tablespoon I have a day of it! Ha!

        Anyway, good luck and hope that bloat is gone lickety split! Drink your water!

        Julia

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        • Joolia, I'm back then off to a resort in Florida for a work conference the first week if October. I may do a partial Whole between Berlin and San Marco Island. But for sure a full after October 10th or so. Wait for me?

          I found a few great steak places in Poland and Prague. But my jeans are snug. Shangri La and W30!

          I am Polish and ate potatoes in every format in every city. The good news is that I've walked more miles than I can count. Glad to be back in Berlin tonight. Three sleeps until I head back to California. Work the next morning.

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          • HD, I used Jewish New Year to eat everything sweet in Krakow Poland. Hopefully the year ahead is sweet in other ways than food. As I said to Joolia, I too will do Whole in October. Perhaps AIPwith you. I felt good doing it before.

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            • We may have to wait until October 12th - not only is my birthday the 11th, BUT OMG, IT'S ON A FRIDAY THIS YEAR!!!!

              I've only had to wait since my FORTIETH BIRTHDAY (which was a saturday, but still) for crying out loud. Harumph.

              Have fun in Berlin, three sleeps left!

              Julia

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              • Joolia, so funny that your birthday is the 11th. Mine is the 6th which is why I sad to wait a few days after. I come home from Florida On the 7th and figure friends night want to celebrate the following weekend. I had not looked at a calendar. Let's really plan to start a solid W30 on the Monday after your birthday. Can do Primal and shots between trips.

                My rings have been glued to my fingers for two weeks. Everything has way too much sodium here in Europe.

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                • joolia-
                  In answer to your question about muscle: I think I have built some, especially in biceps, deltoids and quads. However, I'm waiting for my bodyscan on October 17 which will give me the facts and not just my (perhaps wishful) impressions. We will see!

                  Calee - it seems you are having fun, despite your rings misbehaving! I hope you two will keep us updated on your W30.
                  Starting Weight: 197.5
                  Current Weight: 123
                  Far healthier!

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                  • I was gone from the SLD for a bit, but I think I'm back. I was all over MDA (and every where else) reading about carbs and fat and all, trying to find the truth about carbs and metabolism and if fat loss really comes down to CICO. I was thinking that maybe I needed to eat more carbs--I was feeling weird about not eating any carbs, like it is a really weird diet and was worried that I wasn't getting enough nutrients and all. So, I started reading some of the Peat stuff, Kurt Harris and others just trying to understand. Then I got on Lyle McDonald's site too (really informative actually) and was totally believing it really is CICO. I played around with adding in some starch and then got the brainy idea of adding in raw potato starch (a resistant starch that is supposed to feed good bacteria). Well, for someone with suspected SIBO, it wasn't a good experiment! My digestive system was a mess and then we went away for a wedding over Labor Day and I kind of ate a lot of crap--cake, candy, McDonalds (holy crap!), Chinese food, beer, you name it.

                    Anyway, I hadn't been on the scale for like 3 weeks now and I felt kind of "light" this morning and decided to get on the scale. Mistake--I am up 1.5lbs. Meanwhile, my husband lost another lb.......

                    So, I went back through my FitDay diary and tried to see if I could figure out when it was that I dropped the few pounds and I realized it was when I was doing the oil shots. It's just frustrating because I was even eating more then and for the last few days now I have dropped my calories down to about 1300 or so, so I really thought that I was losing, but nope.

                    So anyway, I'm going to try this SLD thing again. I did buy the Nature's Way liquid coconut oil and I haven't had any issues with it. I wonder if it's the NOW brand that gives people issues? I guess I will stick with VLC and SLD for another 4 weeks at least and then re-assess.

                    There is a lot of information out there about carbs and digestive issues and since I do have digestive issues, I guess it is nuts for me to mess with the VLC diet, especially since I was doing fairly well on it, although I felt many times like I didn't have as much energy as I should have. Whatever--I guess I'm a hopeless diet tinkerer.....

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                    • Julie, calee, I will be here when/if you want to do Whole30/AIP in October.
                      Pony, tinkering with diet and "hacks" is the only way to find out what works for YOU. Really, some people can handle more carbs, some (lucky) people dont have food allergies, but trying different things and seeing the results you come to know your body.
                      Maybe you'll join us in a Whole30. (Whole9life.com for more info)

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                      • I'm back! Up two pounds after a million carbs, miles of walking, 20 hours travel to get home and 5 hour of sleep from 10:30-3:30 AM. Feet look pudgy, face looks exhausted, fridge is empty and I'm staring down a full day in the office. Body time is 9 hours ahead. I'm resorting to real coffee this morning followed by a walk to work in the cool air. That should wake me. I think I will wait a day or two to start shots. Allow my body to let go of these retained fluids.

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                        • I'm back too. I was met with my daughter's boyfriend picking us up and proposing to her right outside of security. Pretty cool. She is now wearing his Grandmothers ring who was married for 65 years before Grandpa passed. Good karma. I will get my wits together and read what I missed.

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                          • Welcome home OG. how was your trip? How are you doing?

                            What exceptional news about your daughter! 65 years is great karma! My parents made it 65 years as well. I hope your daughter is walking on cloud nine. When do you get to start planning the wedding?
                            Last edited by calee; 09-14-2013, 05:57 AM.

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                            • Trip was great fun Calee. It was so great to spend time where I went to school. Rode horses in the same arena as I did 40 years ago. Jumped over the same cross country jumps and galloped over the same moors. I love how England stays the same.

                              How was your trip to the city of 1000 spires?

                              Jess is very unconventional when it comes to the idea of a wedding, so we'll see what her ideas are.

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                              • My trip was fantastic. Some parts were emotionally difficult as my mom is from Poland and escaped on the last boat to leave in 1939. Zach and I always have an incredible time together. He knows me better than anyone else does so there is no facade etc. very easy to be together. The jet lag is killing me. It was easy going to Berlin but the 20 hours of traveling time coming home was tough. I was at work from 6-3 on Thursday and Friday.

                                I drank several espresso each day while away. Following pretty clean eating prior to trip, then indulging in non Paleo eating while away has really shown me how I react to less than optimal eating. I also didn't sleep near enough while away. Too many things to see and do along with th 9 hour time difference. You get that part!

                                So today I'm detoxing from caffeine and flour as well as sugar. I made a double batch or Paleo Chocolate Chili this morning. WF had GF beef on sale yesterday. Trying to keep it really simple.

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