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    My mum is Polish, and this Christmas she made Bigos (Polish Hunter's stew) which is basically loads of pork, bacon, cabbage - YUM. Bigos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Anyway, this morning I was eating some for breakfast - cold, and she told me that it wasn't good to eat something so fatty cold. When i asked why, she wasn't really able to answer - she just said she had a feeling about it, and it's not good for digestion... or something.

    Has anyone ever heard this before? Is it an old wives tale, Polish CW, or wisdom from older generations that been lost? (not that my mum is actually old..! She's in her 50s)
    "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

    - Ray Peat

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    Cold fat is less palatable to some people. Some people associate their personal palatability perception with general perceptions and/or health. "If I taste it this way, everyone must, and it must be bad."

    Of course that's not true, but it's a natural mistake.

    In my case, congealed fat on top of a soup would put me off. I wouldn't eat it that way because I find large globs of congealed fat unpleasant. That's absolutely just my personal hang-up, but it may be shared by many others. Because of my hang-ups I would heat the soup, and stir the fat in, and know full well the fat is still there but be much happier with the eating experience.

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    • #3
      Russian version called Solyanka was often eaten cold. But, in Russia, at least, in my times, large hot meals were always considered superior to small cold ones, particularly the beloved Western sandwiches as bad for digestion. There is actually a specific term for it 'suhomyatka', roughly translated as 'dry mush'. Snacking, and cold food was just not considered 'wholesome' when I was growing up. Even the mid-afternoon meal for children in the day care or youth school came with something hot, like a hot dry fruit compot or milk.
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      • #4
        Old wives tale.. bundle up or you'll catch a cold

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        • #5
          Yea, you can catch a cold as result of cold. Cold stresses the body, stress reduces immunity.

          I think warm foods are supposed to encourage bile flow from the liver. There may be some benefit to eating it warm, but probably not a lot. Incidentally, I have had liver problems and I like my food steaming hot. Hmmmm

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          • #6
            Maybe she thought that the cold fat down your gullet would be like pouring fat down the kitchen sink - that it would get stuck somewhere along the way.

            People think strange thoughts about food.

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            • #7
              Well, we know that cold potatoes are resistant starch, maybe cold sausage is a resistant protein, woot!
              I have to say that coming from a climate with 5+ months of winter and moving to a climate with 6+ months of winter, I am sharing your mum's and my mum's and my grandmum's gut feeling that hot meals are more nutritious, lol. Like a bowl of hot buckwheat or millet with steaming hot milk or melting butter vs dry cereal crunch in pale milk at the point of freezing... or a bowl of hot stew vs a bowl of limp salad... the hot version always feels heartier and healthier somehow.
              I do love eating cold Solyanka though... until I heat it up and all the juices run together again and it smells divine.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Him View Post
                Cold fat is less palatable to some people. Some people associate their personal palatability perception with general perceptions and/or health. "If I taste it this way, everyone must, and it must be bad."

                Of course that's not true, but it's a natural mistake.
                I think this is probably it, lol.

                Originally posted by AshleyL View Post
                I think warm foods are supposed to encourage bile flow from the liver.
                That's interesting. I have been told that cold water is bad for digestion. I suppose it would make sense that hot foods are easier to digest as your body doesn't have to use energy to heat them up first.

                Originally posted by Leida View Post
                Well, we know that cold potatoes are resistant starch, maybe cold sausage is a resistant protein, woot!
                I have to say that coming from a climate with 5+ months of winter and moving to a climate with 6+ months of winter, I am sharing your mum's and my mum's and my grandmum's gut feeling that hot meals are more nutritious, lol. Like a bowl of hot buckwheat or millet with steaming hot milk or melting butter vs dry cereal crunch in pale milk at the point of freezing... or a bowl of hot stew vs a bowl of limp salad... the hot version always feels heartier and healthier somehow.
                I do love eating cold Solyanka though... until I heat it up and all the juices run together again and it smells divine.
                I didn't realise you were part-Russian Leida! Did you spend time there? Buckwheat with steaming milk is a big breakfast thing in Poland too - we used to eat it in summer camp
                "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                - Ray Peat

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                • #9
                  It warms up in your body anyway.
                  well then

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                  • #10
                    Besides the palatability issue of cold, congealed fat, I can't think of a biochemical reason why it would be any different once eaten.
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                    • #11
                      yeah,Maybe she thought that the cold fat down your gullet would be like pouring fat down the kitchen sink

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                      • #12
                        Homemade Bigos is amazing, I'm so jealous! My family on both sides is Polish, and I lived in Poland for a few months, but the bigos in the restaurants there is nothing like homemade stuff, it was very disappointing.

                        As for the eating it cold issue, the only thing I've ever heard was from my TCM naturopath/accupuncturist, who said that according to chinese medecine, eating any food cold wasn't considered good for digestion (she likened it to throwing something cold in a pot of boiling water; the water stops boiling for a minute and has to 'work harder' to get back up to temp...so the view is that eating anything raw or cold was a strain on digestion).

                        I don't know if that's true, you can be the judge!

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                        • #13
                          Have you never eaten cheese or chocolate?
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                          Eat creatures nose-to-tail (animal, fowl, fish, crustacea, molluscs), a large variety of vegetables (raw, cooked and fermented, including safe starches), dairy (cheese & yoghurt), occasional fruit, cocoa, turmeric & red wine

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BestBetter View Post
                            Homemade Bigos is amazing, I'm so jealous! My family on both sides is Polish, and I lived in Poland for a few months, but the bigos in the restaurants there is nothing like homemade stuff, it was very disappointing.
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                            Cabbage, saurcrout, onion, and my mum uses sausage and three kinds of cured ham. An omega 6 bomb, but 100% amazing

                            As for the eating it cold issue, the only thing I've ever heard was from my TCM naturopath/accupuncturist, who said that according to chinese medecine, eating any food cold wasn't considered good for digestion (she likened it to throwing something cold in a pot of boiling water; the water stops boiling for a minute and has to 'work harder' to get back up to temp...so the view is that eating anything raw or cold was a strain on digestion).
                            I studied a bit of Aurevedic medicine in India when I was doing my Yoga teacher training, and this thread reminded me that that's what they think too. They regard the digestive system as a fire, and think cold, or uncooked foods are like throwing a wet cloth on it, so should be very moderate. I actually love cold food and eat it all the time so it might be interesting to see what happens if I start to eat more hot stuff.

                            Amazing you're also Polish! It's such a beautiful country. Where did you live?
                            "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                            In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                            - Ray Peat

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by peril View Post
                              Have you never eaten cheese or chocolate?
                              Lol I know what you mean, but they seem different. Sugar raises body temp, even if you ate it out of the freezer. And how cold can cheese be? Personally I like it best at room temp - the flavour really intensifies.
                              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

                              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

                              - Ray Peat

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