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  • #46
    5 pages, skimmed them, and I haven't found anyone talking about gut health?

    I was constipated MY ENTIRE LIFE until I was about 30 and changed my diet and BAM it went away. Doesn't matter whether I eat tons of leafy greens or none at all; constipation is GONE now. Constipation is a sign of poor gut health, usually a gut bacteria imbalance, also usually food intolerances, biggest culprits being wheat, other grains, dairy, etc., in that order.

    Squatting is a nice help, but not a cure. Magnesium is a nice help, but doesn't solve the root problem.

    If you're constipated and bloated, you have a digestion problem, period. I strongly suggest saving up a bit and getting a test like Enterolabs' comprehensive food intolerance stool test, especially if you're already 100% grain-free and still having problems. Or Metametrix GI Effects, which will do a gut bacteria analysis. Or do the GAPS diet for six months, or just focus hard on no digestion-crippling foods (like grains & especially unfermented and/or pasteurized dairy) and lots of fermented foods & probiotics & bone broth.
    Last edited by MamaGrok; 12-30-2012, 05:05 PM.
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    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
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    • #47
      Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
      5 pages, skimmed them, and I haven't found anyone talking about gut health?

      I was constipated MY ENTIRE LIFE until I was about 30 and changed my diet and BAM it went away. Doesn't matter whether I eat tons of leafy greens or none at all; constipation is GONE now. Constipation is a sign of poor gut health, usually a gut bacteria imbalance, also usually food intolerances, biggest culprits being wheat, other grains, dairy, etc., in that order.

      Squatting is a nice help, but not a cure. Magnesium is a nice help, but doesn't solve the root problem.

      If you're constipated and bloated, you have a digestion problem, period. I strongly suggest saving up a bit and getting a test like Enterolabs' comprehensive food intolerance stool test, especially if you're already 100% grain-free and still having problems. Or Metametrix GI Effects, which will do a gut bacteria analysis. Or do the GAPS diet for six months, or just focus hard on no digestion-crippling foods (like grains & especially unfermented and/or pasteurized dairy) and lots of fermented foods & probiotics & bone broth.
      If you must know about gut health, I find that mine are smaller and less frequent, but still fairly regular. I think the old CW myth of bigger being better (supposedly means you have lots of healthy gut bacteria since dead bacteria is what the majority of it is) doesn't really get the whole picture. I mean... You still have to wonder why you are shedding so much of the good bacteria. Obviously it's not living very long, which to me, indicates an issue of some sort.

      I find that if I am REALLY constipated, I can up fiber for a day or two to get rid of it, but that doesn't happen much anymore, and doing it as a long term solution is likely to do more harm than good anyway. CW wisdom IS good at one thing, keeping you regular. But it's not so good for longer-term gut health.

      Now, I have an interesting question I've been wondering about. I've always wondered if people who go less frequently might have a more efficient metabolism. I mean, they aren't accumulating a lot in their gut so it would seem that their body is utilizing more of the food they are consuming. This would seem to be a good thing as it increases nutrient absorption and means that more food is processed by the body instead of tossed out as "waste."

      Or maybe it's the opposite? More waste means your body is efficiently getting rid of excess calories it doesn't need, which means more calories burned/shed, leaner mass, and therefore a higher metabolism? I mean, I'm no expert, but those both seem like interesting ways to look at hour our guts were designed to function.
      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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      • #48
        I think we're "supposed" to go anywhere from 2-3x/day to once every other day, *so long as* it's comfortable and comes out easily & cleanly, fairly formed, but neither hard nor mush. (I "EC" my babies, and by time they're toddlers, they can squat and go and it's so easy & clean they usually don't even need to be wiped.)

        I think that's the human norm, and variance within it, so long as it's comfortable/etc., is normal.
        5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
        Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
        Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
        Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
        ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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        • #49
          Fibre seems to be irrelevant in good bowel habits for me, and seems to be overrated. Too much info may follow.

          On an implicit keto diet I only have to crap every few days. There is sometimes constipation but its always comes out clean and fast to wipe up. Adding more salt seems to relieve constipation. When I eat lots of veggies I have to crap like every day, usually its more messy and clean up can take a while.

          Frankly I prefer the low fibre option.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by aimlow View Post
            i DO feel cold a lot.... I exercise regularly- any other tips on improving metabolism? I seem to be in the same boat w/ the fiber- eating more seems to clog things up! At least when it comes to fiber supplements, grains etc....
            Metabolism is pretty complicated and I do not like the statement "improving your metabolism also improves digestion. Do you feel cold all the time...?". If you do good exercise, with a healthy diet, your metabolism should be fine. If you are excessively cold it could be you aren't eating enough calories or it could be something like hypothyroidism or any other number of causes.

            Focus on what is managable (exercise/diet) and worry about the minor points later.
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            • #51
              Well, no, if your thyroid sucks, your metabolism won't be fine even with good exercise & a healthy diet. BTDT. But I do agree that improving metabolism is no magic bullet for digestion. ANd yes, cold is another hypothyroid sign. A major one. I recommend a Free T3 test right away in the case of constipation + feeling overcold. Thyroid Mistreatment, Hypothyroidism Scandals, and Thyroid Treatment Problems | Stop The Thyroid Madness. Those are classic symptoms.
              5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
              Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
              Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
              Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
              ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                I'm surprised no one has mentioned this book and website...
                Gut Sense: How to reverse and prevent constipation in children and adults...
                See post 17.

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                • #53
                  More fiber makes things much worse. At least it did for me. And I tried for a few years, resulting in having my gall-bladder removed.
                  "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                  • #54
                    I have chronic constipation, and I thought it was strange that more fiber seemed to make things worse--until my GI doctor confirmed that he personally has the same problem. He says that fiber has been 'oversold' based on flawed research.

                    I've yet to find a solution to my issue. The GI recommended Miralax, and it works for me, but I don't like the 'way' it works. But I've tried almost every other remedy suggested by anyone.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by emmie View Post
                      I have chronic constipation, and I thought it was strange that more fiber seemed to make things worse--until my GI doctor confirmed that he personally has the same problem. He says that fiber has been 'oversold' based on flawed research.

                      I've yet to find a solution to my issue. The GI recommended Miralax, and it works for me, but I don't like the 'way' it works. But I've tried almost every other remedy suggested by anyone.
                      Seriously, check out Gut Sense/Fiber Menace. It really does make sense.
                      Durp.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by sqidmark View Post
                        See post 17.
                        Sorry, Sqidmark. I didn't look back far enough. It can't be linked too many times though.

                        http://www.gutsense.org/

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