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  • #16
    When I had this issue (coming off a long period of abusing laxatives), fiber seemed to make things worse and added pain. Berries and prunes helped the most. Go easy on the prunes, though as you may end up with the exact opposite problem.
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    • #17
      After going primal, both my wife and I developed severe constipation issues. We were both (eventually) relieved after taking magnesium citrate twice per day. It takes time though.

      Checkout the following site:
      Gut Sense: How to reverse and prevent constipation in children and adults
      What Is So Menacing About Fiber?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by statikcat View Post
        If you are eating natural, healthy foods we are designed to eat.. shouldn't they contain the fiber you need? I never give fiber much thought really.
        agreed, i'm confused by the fiber hate on this thread... if we're eating vegetables, fruits, roots, and tubers, we're getting plenty of fiber. i don't think about it at all, but i'm surprised how many people are 'against' it here...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jakey View Post
          agreed, i'm confused by the fiber hate on this thread... if we're eating vegetables, fruits, roots, and tubers, we're getting plenty of fiber. i don't think about it at all, but i'm surprised how many people are 'against' it here...
          I'm not sure if you meant me when you said people are 'against' fiber. I just find that too much of it has detrimental rather than beneficial effects in the departments where fiber is supposed to be so wonderful and helpful. I don't ever get stopped up when I'm eating almost entirely fatty meats and high quality dairy. Too much fiber can cause things to be uncomfortable, even from coconut or other primal-friendly sources.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Leida View Post
            Aimlow, my Perfect Digestion recipe is to lightly grease the outsides of medium sized eggplants with a grease of your choice (I use cocnut oil), pierce it in many places with a knife, wrap in foil with a head of garlic, and bake for an hour at 350 degrees. Than scoop the pulp out and blend with the garlic, salt and whatever spices you like (I use a bit of cumin and cayenne).

            A half cup of the resulted eggplant caviar (or baba ganush) makes things very, very smooth. Do not overdo though, as it is very potent!
            Ate this tonight! Fingers crossed

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Zach View Post
              Improving your metabolism also improves digestion. Do you feel cold all the time? How about your hands and feet?

              As for your question, adding in more insoluble fiber in my experience makes things worse. I have the best elimination on a low residue diet, eating only things that are highly digestible like fruit, dairy, red meat, eggs, white rice. Keeping beans, nuts, veggies and other stuff toa minimum.
              i DO feel cold a lot.... I exercise regularly- any other tips on improving metabolism? I seem to be in the same boat w/ the fiber- eating more seems to clog things up! At least when it comes to fiber supplements, grains etc....

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              • #22
                Originally posted by namelesswonder View Post
                *Supplementing* fiber is a myth. Eating whole, natural foods should provide you with enough.

                Especially while adjusting to this diet, some people have digestive issues. There are a plethora of this could be for anyone and for you. Too much/too little, fat, protein, carbs, sugar, whatever. Or maybe you have a bug. Or maybe you gut flora is too much/too little (overgrowth, or wasted by antibiotics). Introduce anything new? Eating more dairy? There is probably a correlation with what you eat. Do you eat the same thing every day?
                I don't eat dairy, and I don't always eat the same things. Lately, when I eat meat, I get bad indigestion and then all digestion seems to shut down. When I eat grains, it seems to be pretty bad too. There must be a correlation with what I eat, I just don't know what it is!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by aimlow View Post
                  i DO feel cold a lot.... I exercise regularly- any other tips on improving metabolism? I seem to be in the same boat w/ the fiber- eating more seems to clog things up! At least when it comes to fiber supplements, grains etc....
                  Fruit, sugar, coconut oil, carrot salad, liberally salting food, calcium. keep exercise stress to a minimum(make sure you have sufficient downtime between hard exercises)

                  i would suggest staying away from cruciferous greens, they're probably the main source of your digestive issues. i like how danny roddy puts it:

                  What happens to vegetables when you leave them out on the counter for too long? They go south fast.

                  Take the same food, add in darkness, moisture, and heat and... Well, you get the idea.
                  and don't supplement fiber, jesus
                  Last edited by Derpamix; 12-28-2012, 02:42 PM.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RichMahogany View Post
                    I'm not sure if you meant me when you said people are 'against' fiber... I don't ever get stopped up when I'm eating almost entirely fatty meats and high quality dairy. Too much fiber can cause things to be uncomfortable, even from coconut or other primal-friendly sources.
                    didn't mean you, specifically. funny thing though, a fatty meat + dairy diet did not work for me to keep things regular. maybe because it was carb defficient by design though (i'm lactose intolerant). i need carbs, fruits & veg to shit on the regular.

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                    • #25
                      I have a history of IBS which is probably way more intense than the issue you're likely dealing with right now. I wrote pretty extensively about what I did to heal myself (which included a low insoluble fiber diet among other things) on this thread:

                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread62278.html
                      Last edited by BestBetter; 12-29-2012, 08:36 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                        What happens to vegetables when you leave them out on the counter for too long? They go south fast.

                        Take the same food, add in darkness, moisture, and heat and... Well, you get the idea.
                        I don't understand this. Is he talking about digestion?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SarahW View Post
                          I don't understand this. Is he talking about digestion?
                          Essentially. It stresses the digestive tract and increases serotonin.
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                          • #28
                            Fiber sucks.

                            If you're having trouble pooping, try a little magnesium. I take 400mg in the morning and 400mg at night to keep migraines away. The added benefit is a nice poop about 10 minutes after I wake up every morning, no effort at all.

                            I've had digestive troubles before that landed me in the ER (after passing out on the bathroom floor in a puddle of sweat - fun times!) and I haven't had any problems at all since avoiding more than minimal fiber.
                            Durp.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                              Essentially. It stresses the digestive tract and increases serotonin.
                              Um, yeah, it's digestion.

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                              • #30
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