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    A thought experiment! Let’s say we took one hundred morbidly obese persons, in the 400 lbs. + category and put them in a closed camp or asylum and let them do a modified fast of around 5 -700 calories per day for one whole year. No obligatory physical activities. Outside the camp we put armed guards to control that no illegal food will be smuggled into the camp! What would the output be after one year? how many would lose their weight, stop using their medications etc., or even get serious ill, eventually die due to complications of too little food? We know that at least one obese person has completed a water fast for one whole year, so why should not a very fat person survive one year on let’s say 3 daily cans of tuna in water, all the raw fibrous green vegetables he could eat, one cube of chicken broth, one multivitamin pill and a tablespoon of fish-oil and plenty of water, coffee and tea? After all, morbidly obese people carry so much food with them stored in their own bodyfat right?
    Last edited by Gorbag; 12-26-2012, 02:24 PM.
    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    - Schopenhauer

  • #2
    and after their year of forced fasting, roughly 2/3 would go wild and eat til they were sick then hoard food and gain all the weight back
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    yeah you are

    Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
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    • #3
      You would scar them mentally for life. It's been done before, just not with fat people.

      Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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      • #4
        the guns are a nice touch though, make the environment nice and serene which is conducive to happy weight loss

        'is that a salami? DROP IT AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD, NOW NOW NOW!!!'
        beautiful
        yeah you are

        Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
        lol

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        • #5
          Wow, you might have a winning reality show concept there, since people must be getting inured to the level of abuse on the Biggest Loser by now. Nothing like showing those fatties who's boss by rounding them up in prison camps and forcing them to starve into thinness at gunpoint.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
            the guns are a nice touch though, make the environment nice and serene which is conducive to happy weight loss

            'is that a salami? DROP IT AND PUT YOUR HANDS OVER YOUR HEAD, NOW NOW NOW!!!'
            I suppose the black marked price of salami would surpass the price of gold inside the camp!!
            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

            - Schopenhauer

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            • #7
              would you be happy forced into a camp with armed guards?
              beautiful
              yeah you are

              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
              lol

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              • #8
                Ohmigosh, I think I'd assault one the guards and kill myself with his rifle within a very short amount of time in a life like that!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                  Ohmigosh, I think I'd assault one the guards and kill myself with his rifle within a very short amount of time in a life like that!
                  Nah, just beat him senseless with the salami. Then leave.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bloodorchid View Post
                    would you be happy forced into a camp with armed guards?
                    Probably not! But let's say that my family signed a declaration that I could not longer take care of myself, and that I would eat myself to death if not going to the obesity asylum! Let's say the whole issue is in the future some hundred years from now, with laws to save morbide obese persons from destroying themselves...
                    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                    - Schopenhauer

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      Nah, just beat him senseless with the salami. Then leave.
                      That could be fun too.

                      Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                      Probably not! But let's say that my family signed a declaration that I could not longer take care of myself, and that I would eat myself to death if not going to the obesity asylum! Let's say the whole issue is in the future some hundred years from now, with laws to save morbide obese persons from destroying themselves...
                      Here's a pencil & some paper. Start writing that into a novel
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                      • #12
                        Cannibalism.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                          You would scar them mentally for life. It's been done before, just not with fat people.

                          Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                          I just went to that link. I agreed before I read some of this, though. I have heard serious researchers recount stories from the aftermath of WWII, and the (Allied) psychologists had their hands more than full trying to emotionally/psychologically aid the victims of semi-starvation/near-fatal-starvation states, and it surprised them that this psychological support was just as important as the improved nutrition.

                          I have had a small bit to do with social workers who work for adoption agencies specializing in foster care/state/very-hard-to-place adoptions, and the behaviors and food issues of these kids (especially those who suffered neglect) is huge.

                          I know that you aren't doing this thought experiment with a stated thought-purpose of abusing obese persons, but that is what you are going to get (psychological scars), even if you do provide nutritional support along with a very-low-calorie diet. I think you are going to get this even if the obese folks are fully aware beforehand of what awaits them.

                          I am with Dr. bork bork - keep this idea and work on the novel!
                          Last edited by Crabbcakes; 12-26-2012, 05:10 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                            You would scar them mentally for life. It's been done before, just not with fat people.

                            Minnesota Starvation Experiment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                            And the good thing by being fat in this context, I suppose, is that the very obese person can go for a much longer time before starvation, so I don't think those experiments are comparable…
                            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                            - Schopenhauer

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ryanmercer View Post
                              Cannibalism.
                              That's pretty serious, so we have to put some guards inside the camp as well, if that's the case! Do you really think it could go that far?
                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                              - Schopenhauer

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