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  • Originally posted by tomi View Post
    Supplements:
    Multiple vitamin
    Calcium
    Vitamin B complex
    Vitamin C
    Vitamin D3
    Vitamin E
    Iron
    Potasium

    I tested low on B and D so I take mega doses. I am lactose intolerant so I take mega calcium.

    I'm going to be adding 5HTP and Vitex as soon as I remember to buy it!
    Tomi, you need to read this. And this.

    In It Starts with Food, Dallas and Melissa talk about how supplementing with calcium can cause heart attack because without being placed in your bones like it's supposed to, it gets deposited in your arteries.

    From the article I posted: Too much calcium increases the risk of developing dangerously high levels of calcium in the blood, which can result in impairment of kidney function, kidney stones, high blood pressure, and may increase your risk of heart disease and heart attack. Furthermore, recent studies suggest that taking calcium supplements actually increases the risk of “cardiovascular events” (translation: risk of heart attack).
    Primal since March 5, 2012
    SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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    • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
      Tomi, you need to read this. And this.

      In It Starts with Food, Dallas and Melissa talk about how supplementing with calcium can cause heart attack because without being placed in your bones like it's supposed to, it gets deposited in your arteries.

      From the article I posted: Too much calcium increases the risk of developing dangerously high levels of calcium in the blood, which can result in impairment of kidney function, kidney stones, high blood pressure, and may increase your risk of heart disease and heart attack. Furthermore, recent studies suggest that taking calcium supplements actually increases the risk of “cardiovascular events” (translation: risk of heart attack).
      Good thing I don't take calcium. I've read that leafy green veggies have calcium in them.
      Georgette

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      • I worry about supplements I tell ya. I have decided to only take supplements for those things which I am tested and shown to have a deficiency in. So many interactions we don't know about. Too much work for me personally to do the research.
        Chris
        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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        • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
          Has anyone else on HFLC noticed feeling warmer? Not feverish warmer, but less cold. Not needing a jacket at the office anymore, that sort of thing.
          Saturated fats are good for your thyroid

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          • Did a 15 minute power walk on my lunch on this grey, low 60's temp day and having a power lunch of pork rinds and ranch dip. Just grateful that my lungs handled the walk quite well with no asthma attack.
            Georgette

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            • Ok.. I have noticed I do OK with BPC in the AM, I prefer and think I do better with some protein in the AM. I need protein at lunch to get me through the day and afternoon and then I am stuck for dinner. If you look at MFP for dinner I can have some fat and carbs. hmmmmm... says I... yeah, drawing a blank.
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              • Originally posted by geostump View Post
                Did a 15 minute power walk on my lunch on this grey, low 60's temp day and having a power lunch of pork rinds and ranch dip. Just grateful that my lungs handled the walk quite well with no asthma attack.
                oooooo.. look at you!!! You awesome power walking pork rind munchin gal!
                Karin


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                • To pitch in on the supplement talk, though I am still not HFLC (less rice today, at least).

                  -5-HTP for depression
                  -Tyrosine for anxiety/mental focus
                  -Vitamin D for deficiency
                  -Iodine for deficiency
                  -B complex for 5-HTP absorption
                  -Alive Women's multi, to cover things like selenium that I probably don't get otherwise
                  -Ferritin, because I tested deficient in 2011 and am getting symptoms again (more hair coming out than usual)
                  -Vitamin C (with potassium, magnesium, and calcium), for constipation
                  -Vitex, for low progesterone

                  I'm a mess!

                  Hoping to get that down to just Vitamin D, if needed, one day. I'd be okay with keeping 5-HTP and Tyrosine if I have to, but really want to be able to stop taking everything else.
                  Depression Lies

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                  • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
                    If you look at MFP for dinner I can have some fat and carbs. hmmmmm... says I... yeah, drawing a blank.
                    Instead of getting your food in three meals, why not eat it in two?? That is what happens around here. Nice protein and fat breakfast holds us easily until dinnertime. I haven't eaten a midday meal in almost two years.
                    Of all the paths you take in life, make sure a few of them are dirt.

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                    • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
                      Ok.. I have noticed I do OK with BPC in the AM, I prefer and think I do better with some protein in the AM. I need protein at lunch to get me through the day and afternoon and then I am stuck for dinner. If you look at MFP for dinner I can have some fat and carbs. hmmmmm... says I... yeah, drawing a blank.
                      So I am going to suggest you go back to your originally figured goals on your macros till you get a bit consistent. So your protein would be a more reasonable/workable for you caloric goal 70g to 75g. Especially since you are figuring out that you need the protein to sustain you to the next meal.

                      But even if you don't do that I would take your goal and divide it by the number of times you plan to eat (I can't skip lunch as then I tend to binge when I walk in the door after work). Let's say that is 3 for arguments sake. So if you stay with your current macro goals that gives you about 20g of protein per meal and about 53g of fat per meal. If you switch back then you would get closer to 23g of protein per meal but also a little more leeway to end up with some protein at the end of the day.

                      p.s. the other things I try to do is to not have more than 25g of protein per meal, and to try to have my fat be twice as much as my protein at each meal. I find it easier to have a reasonable mix of macros at the end of the day if I work each meal with about equal macros.
                      Last edited by demuralist; 01-29-2013, 12:55 PM. Reason: add ps
                      Chris
                      "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                      My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                      My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                      • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
                        Tomi, you need to read this. And this.
                        thanks, Jenn - that clears up a lot of stuff AND eliminates 2 pills from my daily batch! Yeah! Nothing wrong with taking fewer pills! but what do with the 300 pills I still have left? Maybe I'll just take one a day instead so they don't go to waste. 500 mg a day shouldn't cause a heart attach, should it?
                        1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                        2. Eat to heal
                        3. Move to live
                        4. Embrace today
                        5. Live with intention
                        6. Respect my body
                        7. Cultivate joy
                        8. Find my passion
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                        • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                          So I am going to suggest you go back to your originally figured goals on your macros till you get a bit consistent. So your protein would be a more reasonable/workable for you caloric goal 70g to 75g. Especially since you are figuring out that you need the protein to sustain you to the next meal.

                          But even if you don't do that I would take your goal and divide it by the number of times you plan to eat (I can't skip lunch as then I tend to binge when I walk in the door after work). Let's say that is 3 for arguments sake. So if you stay with your current macro goals that gives you about 20g of protein per meal and about 53g of fat per meal. If you switch back then you would get closer to 23g of protein per meal but also a little more leeway to end up with some protein at the end of the day.

                          p.s. the other things I try to do is to not have more than 25g of protein per meal, and to try to have my fat be twice as much as my protein at each meal. I find it easier to have a reasonable mix of macros at the end of the day if I work each meal with about equal macros.
                          Ok.. so I had protein for breakfast and lunch and am feeling a bit hungry (its about 3pm-not good). I do not remember the hunger when I BPC the morning, but I start to feel the hunger before I hit lunch.
                          Karin


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                          • Karin, I hit a little twinge of hunger at around noon, but generally it goes away within minutes, then returns around 2:30.

                            So here is the thing Nora G (of Primal body Primal Mind fame) among others contend that your body essentially can only use 25g of protein at a sitting as protein. Now that may not be true of everyone but I think it is close to true for me. Such that if I eat a lot of protein it is not much different than getting extra carbs.

                            You also need a few days back on track to get rid of the whole hunger thing. But my memory is that you used to do well with a version of BPC (you don't have to put all the butter or cream in it) and 2 fried eggs. So I would suggest that you try to figure out your breakfast for tomorrow tonight. So for example, lets say you had the coffee with 2T @ of HWC and butter, then fried up 2 slices of bacon and fried 2 eggs in the grease. You would be looking at about 525 calories, 50g of fat, 2g of carb, and 17g of protein. You could even throw in an egg and still be within reason. So you can get the best of both worlds.
                            Chris
                            "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                            My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                            My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                            • Originally posted by tomi View Post
                              thanks, Jenn - that clears up a lot of stuff AND eliminates 2 pills from my daily batch! Yeah! Nothing wrong with taking fewer pills! but what do with the 300 pills I still have left? Maybe I'll just take one a day instead so they don't go to waste. 500 mg a day shouldn't cause a heart attach, should it?
                              The way those authors make it sound is that supplemental calcium is bad all around... I wouldn't take the chance, personally. In fact, I didn't and tossed out the rest of my calcium pills, but I didn't have 300 left. lol This is why I don't buy supplements in large quantities - what if I decide it's not what I need? I know you don't want to be wasteful, but I can't imagine the calcium supps cost you all that much, and if they did, save it for putting in your garden!! I read you can crush egg shells and place them in the bottom of the holes you place your plants and they'll absorb the calcium. Might be a way for you to use it without consuming it. I plan to start saving eggshells as spring approaches to supplement our soil (I read that is why my tomatoes got blossom rot).
                              Primal since March 5, 2012
                              SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                              • For me, broth can tide me over when I'm hungry. I like chicken broth. I add a good amount of salt, garlic powder and then a dash of pepper. Takes quite a bit of salt for a good flavor. But it's about as good as any ramen noodles! Also, I find a couple big sticks of celery will lull my appetite for a while. It is a natural appetite suppressant. Also, exersize can help sometimes. Can also make it worse lol I think it depends on what your body is burning while you exersize. I think if you get your body burning some body fat, it kind of coasts out on that and keeps you from being hungry for a while. I walked we'll over an hour on an incline and when I was done I was not hungry, food was actually gross for a while.
                                Last edited by AshleyL; 01-29-2013, 04:19 PM.

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