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  • Had some left over bacon from breakfast and the MIL is coming over for dinner so I made dessert: Dark chocolate (cut with some bacongrease) covering centercut bacon with ground macadamia+cacaobean+coconutflake "flour". Thats some fat right there.

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    • Most ham is cured with sugar so, yes, there will be carbs involved. Prosciutto is a good alternative for home consumption.

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      • Originally posted by jenn26point2 View Post
        Did anyone else know that ham contains carbs??? Never would have guessed it. So... I guess I'm having the roast beef tonight. I'd rather have a steak... and wish we had the choice. I'll take some KG with me for the veggies.

        Going to have some salmon with butter for lunch. - If I ever get hungry. Those Practical Paleo Blueberry Lemon muffin "pancakes" have me pretty filled up still. Will have a couple of cream cheese clouds with some coconut oil on them for a fat bomb. I'll opt for the roast and the veggies for dinner, and add some KG to the veggies.

        I have a plan. Let's all keep our fingers crossed that it works out the way I want it to.
        Yes, most hams are processed with brine solutions that contain sugars... some even have glutens and other weirdness added for flavoring.
        Sorry.
        If you are getting a ham for at home you can red labels and not do too badly though... I wouldn't trust one out though.

        I ate out last night too... at Japanse so while all the family was sitting at the hibachi table being piggy, I was eating a dragon roll(no rice, the tuna-salmon-and snapper is rolled in cucumber... SO GOOD!), seaweed salad, and miso soup.
        Not enough fat by miles... but it was a nice treat.
        And I'll live through one day.
        Plus I had my coffee w/ HWC for breakfast a few spoons of the super rich pate I made yesterday as I was packing it up to refrigerate it.
        “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
        ~Friedrich Nietzsche
        And that's why I'm here eating HFLC Primal/Paleo.

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        • Never thought of the curing process... I thought of the fact that it was a stupid pig and pigs are meat... lol
          Primal since March 5, 2012
          SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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          • Originally posted by valmason01 View Post
            I have been browsing this thread and now that you have all experienced the month of moar fat I want to pick your brain! I eat way too much protein, with carbs and fat being what I need based on the original recommendations. How do I lower the protein while keeping the fat up and not being hungry? Ideas????

            Yesterdays food which is average...
            Breakfast: coffee w/ ~3/4 T of coconut oil/1 T hwc and yerba mate.
            Lunch: appx 1/3 pound of ground beef w/ taco seasoning, guac, kale and sour cream.
            Supper: sausage/bacon and a muffin in a minute w/ butter and walden farms syrup.
            snack: 2oz cashews, 1 oz pecans, 2 slices of apple, ~1TB cream cheese. Thanks for the help!

            Goal: 59kg (CW 80 kg)
            protein~ 50 grams
            carbs~30 grams
            fat~120 grams
            Calories~1500
            Hi,

            +1 to what Jenn said. There is a list of fat sources in the LCHF recipe group. FYI according to your goal weight, your protein goal should be 59-65gms. (KG goal + 10%). I work out a lot, so I don't sweat my protein unless it gets over 100g. I'm allowed 77-85 based on my goal.
            Primal since 9/24/2010
            "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." Miguel de Cervantes

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            • Thanks for the clarification! That helps some. I use most accepted fat sources: coconut oil, butter, hwc, cream cheese, olive oil, etc. I guess I just need to use more and less protein. Honestly I have seen some of the days menus posted and feel like I will just starve on that but something has to give.

              Originally posted by Pebbles67 View Post
              Hi, c

              +1 to what Jenn said. There is a list of fat sources in the LCHF recipe group. FYI according to your goal weight, your protein goal should be 59-65gms. (KG goal + 10%). I work out a lot, so I don't sweat my protein unless it gets over 100g. I'm allowed 77-85 based on my goal.
              You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

              Age 48
              height 5'3
              SW 215 lbs
              CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
              LW 172 lbs
              GW 125ish lbs

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              • I don't think you'll starve on anyone's menu - except maybe Tomi's, as she's only consuming 1200 calories a day.
                Primal since March 5, 2012
                SW: 221 | CW: 204 | LPW: 166 | UGW: 140 (80 lbs loss)



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                • I have to start a bit higher in calories and then after 3-5 days, the appetite suppression finally kicks in and I eat at my normal range (right now, 1400...probably needs to get to 1200 at some point). The more difficult part is mental - there's not a lot of food on the plate. And, you never really get that "stuffed" feeling.
                  -- Ruth

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                  • 12 Healthy High-Fat Foods Perfect For Nutritional Ketosis

                    This link is also in our LCHF recipe group, it has its own discussion thread. But we have had a few asking basically how we get the fat in so I thought I would repost it here.

                    +1 to RMS I focused on getting the percentages right first, then after I did that for a few days, the appetite suppression kicked in and I was easily able to lower everything. I still have about 1 high day a week, where I am a bit over on everything, but the percentages are right.

                    I will not be getting on the scale till I go to the doc in March, so I can't say how it is working that way, but I feel great.

                    Note this is totally an N=1 experiment, the details are going to be different for everyone, and *GASP* there are even going to be some people for whom this doesn't work at all. I think that this WOE is especially helpful for those of us who have insulin resistance issues, or have yo-yoed a lot, among other types.
                    Chris
                    "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
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                    My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                    My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                    • I'll happily claim the title of the "starving one" I'm not starving at all though I only eat 1 whole egg + 2 yolks for breakfast - fried in 1.5 TB butter. Then I don't normally eat again until dinner (don't need to). Dinner is 4-5 oz of meat or salmon and some kind of veggies - my favorite way to make them is roasting with EVOO - then add butter when I get them plated. I will also snack on a couple cream cheese clouds either mid afternoon and/or before bed. Calories range from 1000-1300 most of the time. But if I go much higher I get thrown into a stall that can take a week to break. I'm down 7 pound since Dec. 28.

                      My typical veggie roast consists of carrots, cauliflower, broccoli, zucchini, peppers, sweet potato and/or butternut squash. Occationally I'll throw in a red potato, but then give most of it to hubby. YUMMY........ thats on the menu tonight - and hubby won't be here so its ALL MINE! Anyone else have fav's that I might try?

                      I am happy to report I've kicked my need for brown sugar on my sw. potato and acorn squash I've also enormously cut down my use of ketchup and salad dressings! YEAH ME! Going VLC has eliminated my need for these.

                      Welcome Newcomers!!!! Here's to your health - and happiness with the image in the mirror!
                      1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                      2. Eat to heal
                      3. Move to live
                      4. Embrace today
                      5. Live with intention
                      6. Respect my body
                      7. Cultivate joy
                      8. Find my passion
                      9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                      • tomi, I have been known to just toss a bag of mixed frozen onto a cookie sheet (after tossing in Olive Oil and seasoning) and roasting that. And we do asparagus, or broccoli, or cauliflower alone, till they just start to brown. DH says the cauliflower like that is better than candy.
                        Chris
                        "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain."
                        Unknown

                        My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread36279.html

                        My "Program": doing my version of a 4:3 - 3 day fast diet with real food every day, with a little twist of anti-inflammatory mixed in.

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                        • I agree ^ -- when the sugars in the cauliflower and broccoli start to carmalize........... OMgosh! sweet healthy goodness!
                          1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                          2. Eat to heal
                          3. Move to live
                          4. Embrace today
                          5. Live with intention
                          6. Respect my body
                          7. Cultivate joy
                          8. Find my passion
                          9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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                          • aw those poor chickens Jenn
                            We have gone from extreme heat to pouring down with rain here, this weather is weird!
                            I think ill stick to weighing just on the 1st of each month. TOM will be over soon, and I already feel way less bloated, so hoping to register some reasonable loss next Friday for the month. My waist has been the biggest change so far -7 cm (2.75 inches), I don't think thats too shabby really

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                            • Originally posted by demuralist View Post
                              tomi, I have been known to just toss a bag of mixed frozen onto a cookie sheet (after tossing in Olive Oil and seasoning) and roasting that. And we do asparagus, or broccoli, or cauliflower alone, till they just start to brown. DH says the cauliflower like that is better than candy.
                              I might give this a try.

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                              • Originally posted by Ayla2010 View Post
                                I think ill stick to weighing just on the 1st of each month. TOM will be over soon, and I already feel way less bloated, so hoping to register some reasonable loss next Friday for the month. My waist has been the biggest change so far -7 cm (2.75 inches), I don't think thats too shabby really
                                Neither do I!!

                                As others have said, this is a journey. At 5'1", I topped out at 186 (155cm, 84.5kg). I lost the early part with calorie counting and lots of exercise. With growing job responsibilities, it's been less exercise and lower carbs. Now I barely have time for exercise (making more, dammit! -- it feels so good!) and NK - I'm recomposing my body.

                                I spent over 30 years putting it on. I've spent the last 10 taking it off, holding, taking a little more, holding , and a little more. I'm now below my weight when I left the military ... in 1982 (yes, 31 years ago). I've lost it in 1/3 the time it took to put it on. Like Ayla2010 - perspective matters.

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