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  • Where one can read about Peat's diet?
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    • Originally posted by Leida View Post
      Where one can read about Peat's diet?
      Nowhere, really. lol But good starting places are his web site articles Ray Peat and The Danny Roddy Weblog who interprets his writings. His articles are snoozeville BUT laced with tons of valuable information.

      ETA: This is a great interview http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/...derstandi.html
      Last edited by j3nn; 07-25-2013, 07:00 AM.
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      • Steven Smith made a pretty easy to follow graphic:



        https://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

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        • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
          we-ell, I was referring to the Peat "Purists", but that could just be my perception I consider my diet very Peat, and I don't drink OJ or milk (they both bloat me).
          I think its because Derp and Zach do heavy liquid and we interact with them more than any other Peat people, lol. Well, at least me anyway. They are young and active fellas with a large buffer for liquid calories. I have to choose more carefully. If I use up half or more of my calories on OJ and milk, I'll probably be hungry and overeat! But I can't even drink straight milk; my stomach doesn't like it. And OJ is also a problem, but I drink it anyway because my list of things that don't bother me is sort of nonexistent at this point, lol.
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          • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
            Steven Smith made a pretty easy to follow graphic:



            https://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

            There is some Facebook page too, but if you value your freedom, you're likely not on it anyway.
            And to add to this:

            GRAINS (BEST TO WORST)

            Masa harina (best), white rice or oats, and brown rice. The phytic acid in the oats block absorption of much of the calcium; cooking the oats much longer than usual might improve its nutritional value. - Ray Peat's Brain: Building a Foundation for Better Understanding — The Danny Roddy Weblog
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            • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
              People accuse me of starting it in PM all the time, when I was actively posting in this subforum anyway. I think VLC probably made people naturally look for something that is the complete opposite because they felt like crap. This is how I discovered sugar again.
              This was the thread that started it all for me: Why does Danny Roddy recommend sugar?

              It's pretty funny reading back on it now: DAnny turned up to defend his views, and you can actually see the moment where some of us began to turn!
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              "I think the basic anti-aging diet is also the best diet for prevention and treatment of diabetes, scleroderma, and the various "connective tissue diseases." This would emphasize high protein, low unsaturated fats, low iron, and high antioxidant consumption, with a moderate or low starch consumption.

              In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

              - Ray Peat

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              • Hm, my diet isn't that liquid based, on a day to day basis, but I have hyperthyroidism and it's really hot here. Consequently, too much sodium makes me feel really, really bad.

                j3nn, did you ever have some kind of food virus like salmonella?
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                • Originally posted by YogaBare View Post
                  This was the thread that started it all for me: Why does Danny Roddy recommend sugar?

                  It's pretty funny reading back on it now: DAnny turned up to defend his views, and you can actually see the moment where some of us began to turn!
                  That thread started it all for me too. By all I mean all my random migraines and my lack of faith in humanity.
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                  • Can somebody explain what the obsession is with oj? To the exclusion of other fruit juices.

                    I tend to think oj should come in those tiny glasses my grandmother used to use.

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                    • Originally posted by lea View Post
                      Can somebody explain what the obsession is with oj? To the exclusion of other fruit juices.

                      I tend to think oj should come in those tiny glasses my grandmother used to use.
                      It isn't to the exclusion of other fruits, but here's something to chew on;

                      Orange juice contains a lot of Vitamin C which is a major antioxidant. We know that antioxidants help our bodies to increase white blood cells. This increased white blood cell count helps our body defend against foreign invaders that can cause sickness in the body. When I look at this, plus the fact that oranges are in season during the flu season, I have to think this is one of Mother Nature’s cures to the common cold. It’s pretty amazing if you think about it, isn’t it? Vitamin C is also essential for the body to make collagen and can also help with thyroid health especially in the production of T3.

                      Potassium is another mineral found in oranges and tropical fruits. Potassium is huge because it helps the body deal with fluids and sodium. Lack of potassium can cause edema. It also helps with nerve function, muscle contraction, and pH regulation. Diets high in potassium are associated with lower blood pressure, according to Gropper et al in “Advanced Nutrition and Human Metabolism.”

                      The other great mineral that OJ has is magnesium. Magnesium is very important for good health. You can get magnesium from an Epsom salt bath or bone broth. But, why not OJ? The combination of magnesium and potassium helps to down grade stress levels in the body. The combination of the minerals plus the fact that it is high in salicylates makes OJ anti-inflammatory and can be compared to drinking organic aspirin…pretty awsome!

                      The way I suggest making your Orange Juice is this:

                      First, look for organically grown, ripe, local oranges. I always recommend squeezing your own. Frankly, I just don’t trust anything else. After juicing the orange, I recommend straining the juice because the pulp is cellulose and very hard to digest. Many people get stomach aches from the pulp-so take the time and strain it.

                      I do not recommend drinking it on an empty stomach. I also suggest adding a bit of sea salt to the juice because the sodium /magnesium/ potassium combination is very important for good health. Sip the juice through the day. Do not drink large amounts of it at one time! Just small sips through the day will help with your bodies stress response. Another fun thing that I like to do is to add some sparkling mineral water to the OJ. You can also add some gelatin and boost the protein profile. Why take a vitamin or mineral supplement when you can get everything you need from real food? Many supplements these days just aren’t safe. Your nutrition should be from nature. Just get some fresh oranges at your next farmer’s market and start enjoying your fresh juice with confidence that you are doing something good for yourself. Don’t be afraid to eat Oranges!
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                      • Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                        j3nn, did you ever have some kind of food virus like salmonella?
                        I had food poisoning about 6 years ago and haven't been the same since.
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                        • Although I have yet to abide by the addition of salt to it - or the 'don't drink it all at once' advice. Oops.

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                          • Originally posted by j3nn View Post
                            I had food poisoning about 6 years ago and haven't been the same since.
                            RE:OJ....the pectin may be an issue? As with most food, the source and quality is going to be key. I ain't got round to buying my own OJ yet, just get store stuff(Innocent or M&S which don't have the enzyme shit) which is not concentrated, and they only have Oranges as an ingredient. I'm sure I could source better quality though.

                            Also, I add about 1/4-1/2 tsp of Bicarb Soda to my OJ. Makes it taste like Fanta. Supposedley increases Co2 production

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                            • Originally posted by Rocco Hill View Post
                              RE:OJ....the pectin may be an issue? As with most food, the source and quality is going to be key. I ain't got round to buying my own OJ yet, just get store stuff(Innocent or M&S which don't have the enzyme shit) which is not concentrated, and they only have Oranges as an ingredient. I'm sure I could source better quality though.

                              Also, I add about 1/4-1/2 tsp of Bicarb Soda to my OJ. Makes it taste like Fanta. Supposedley increases Co2 production
                              I'm not sure. There's so many variables. Sometimes it gives me heartburn immediately, but this week I've been having moderate amounts and no immediate reaction such as burning or discomfort, but my digestion is still whack, so I really don't know. Still trying to figure it out but right now my hormones are taking priority. Overlapping conditions realllllly suck and complicate things.
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                              • Interesting, thank you.

                                Masa harina (best), white rice or oats, and brown rice. The phytic acid in the oats block absorption of much of the calcium; cooking the oats much longer than usual might improve its nutritional value.
                                Any insight on the other grains, like buckwheat and millet?
                                Are sardines in the same 'just say no to' corner as salmon and herring?
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