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  • #16
    Oh my goodness you lost 4 inches in your waist in 8 months! Geez. I would love that kind of progress. It's a sign to keep doing what you're doing as you're obviously losing fat and replacing it with muscle. Eventually the muscle building will slow down and you'll just be losing fat.

    Good work!

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    • #17
      One medium potato is 33 carbohydrates, one large potato is 57 (!!!) carbs. 1/4 cup of raisins is is 31 carbs. One large banana has 28 carbs, a medium has 24, one large apple has 25 grams...

      Whereas half a fried eggplant is like 2 carbs. A huge pile of turnip greens is about 2 as well. An egg has "none" as does a huge slab of meat. A cup of cubed cheese has less than two grams. So on and so forth, so you can see how those foods really pack a carbohydrate punch. What your body does with those carbs because your sugar metabolism is broken and the insulin that comes with carbs, is it bypasses your lean tissues and shuttles it right into your fat cells. Then your muscles say, hey, we are starving here, eat some carbs!" (because carbs are what your body is used to running on, not so much fat). And you give it more and it just keeps going to the fat and little going to the muscle. It's kind of like foreign aid, you give a bunch of money to a government where people are starving, but somehow the people just can't get the food. You have to fix the government! You have to fix your sugar metabolism. And to start that, you have to stop eating sugar and things that turn into sugar (carbs) to turn its world upside down and put it in boot camp. Force it to change it's ways. Be sure to eat your greens and veggies for electrolytes too. And they will provide your vitamins and minerals. Another thing is, your body will soon not need so much vitamins and minerals because it's not constantly putting out inflammatory fires around your body.

      And when I really want something sweet, I eat some "chocoperfection" bar. They are sweetened with inulin and are so good. I have a couple blocks and my desire for something sweet goes away.

      If you cut out that fruit and potato, you will very likely see how much carbs it was giving you in how hungry you become. Your body is using it to keep the status quo going. Of course, this starving will pass in as little as a couple days to as much as a couple weeks or so. For me it was a couple weeks.
      Last edited by AshleyL; 12-13-2012, 09:59 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AshleyL View Post
        Whereas half a fried eggplant is about 10-11 carbs. A huge pile of turnip greens is about 10 as well. An egg has "none" as does a huge slab of meat. A cup of cubed cheese has less than two grams. So on and so forth, so you can see how those foods really pack a carbohydrate punch. What your body does with those carbs because your sugar metabolism is broken and the insulin that comes with carbs, is it bypasses your lean tissues and shuttles it right into your fat cells. Then your muscles say, hey, we are starving here, eat some carbs!" (because carbs are what your body is used to running on, not so much fat). And you give it more and it just keeps going to the fat and little going to the muscle. It's kind of like foreign aid, you give a bunch of money to a government where people are starving, but somehow the people just can't get the food. You have to fix the government! You have to fix your sugar metabolism. And to start that, you have to stop eating sugar and things that turn into sugar (carbs) to turn its world upside down and put it in boot camp. Force it to change it's ways. Be sure to eat your greens and veggies for electrolytes too.
        that is such a good explanation. nice job.
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        • #19
          When I first posted that I forgot to minus the fiber carbs (oops!), went back and edited for anyone wondering why the numbers in the quote and my original message don't match!

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          • #20
            I know that Kurt Harris has since scoffed at his own recommendations, but I remember he used to tell people that if eating this way didn't result in any weight loss that perhaps they were so metabolically broken they needed to try an all-meat diet. If all meat couldn't do it, there was no hope. It might be worth a try as sort of a low carb induction for you since your diet really hasn't been all that low carb.

            Meanwhile, if you have your own office, you can shut the door and do some squats or lunges or pushups or whatever every hour. I do that. Like just 30 squats, then back to my chair.
            Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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            • #21
              I'd say if you can't lose weight on low carb, you probably have some liver problems and toxicity. That too, can be fixed- with herbs.

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              • #22
                Wow... thanks for all the advice folks. Appreciated. I'll have a look at how I can replace the baked potato. It was about the lowest carb item at the works canteen. Maybe tuna mayo baked potato... hold the potato
                Embracing my inner Caveman since Sept 2012
                Age: 45. Height: 5'9". PW: 234. SW: 215
                Start BMI: 31.9 (if include "bigbone" 10% allowance: 28.7)
                Start Waist: 40in

                CW [06/Aug/13]: 198lbs. Current Waist: 36in. BF%: 19.6%. Various Calcs
                BMI: 29.2/26.3 BF%: 16.45% Naval Research BF Method

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                • #23
                  If it helps at all, I'm a T1.5 diabetic and I IF almost daily with no blood sugar problems. Also I'm 9 months pregnant. Cut out some of the treats, eat a little more fat and protein to remain stable. If I can do it, you can too!
                  --Trish (Bork)
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                  • #24
                    Have you had your Vitamin D3 blood level checked?

                    D3 deficiency can definitely hinder fat loss and most folk in the UK are deficient. You can get a test kit here if the NHS doc won't order the test.

                    More info here. Also do a search on the blog for other articles on Vitamin D.

                    Make sure you supplement with Magnesium as well and are getting enough A & K2 from your diet.
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                    • #25
                      Have you had your Vitamin D3 blood level checked?

                      D3 deficiency can definitely hinder fat loss and most folk in the UK are deficient. You can get a test kit here if the NHS doc won't order the test.

                      More info here. Also do a search on the blog for other articles on Vitamin D.

                      Make sure you supplement with Magnesium as well and are getting enough A & K2 from your diet.
                      Ancestral Nutrition Coaching
                      Pregnancy Nutrition Coaching
                      Primal Pregnancy Nutrition Article

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                      • #26
                        I would experiment with Ketosis for a while, to get the weight-loss going. That's usually not exceeding 50g of carbs for most people. Your menu sounds like it's well above that threshold.
                        Then you can gradually add more carbs. Just my 2cents.

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                        • #27
                          My first impression of your daily meal was too much sugar/starch, not enough nutrient-rich veg.

                          I'm not really familiar with "Tuna Mayo baked potato" but I'm guessing it is probably questionable fish, with questionable oil in the mayo, with a baked potato that you probably shouldn't be eating if you're trying to lose weight on a primal WOE.
                          Firstly, I try to avoid anything with mayo, whether it's eating out or at a friend's home, because 99.99% of mayo is canola oil based.
                          I know firsthand how hard it can be when you have to deal with a work canteen - do they have burgers or sandwiches, or even a salad? I'm a master of modifying things to make myself a near-primal meal... I might get a burger (without buns - throw them away, give them to a friend, ask them not to put it in the bun to begin with) with extra lettuce, tomato, etc... voila, burger salad. If they have sandwiches, find out if you can get some of the meat and cheese and lettuce/veg - voila, a "chef salad" Also avoid any pre-made dressings... they are usually canola oil based as well.
                          Can you take the extra 5-10min to pack a lunch for yourself?
                          Would you be open to trying IF (as many people have pointed out, being diabetic doesn't automatically mean you can't IF), and would it be socially acceptable in your work environment?

                          I usually only eat 2-3 meals a day - my "meal plan" is: eat when you're hungry, don't eat when you're not hungry.
                          try to have veggies at every meal. I LOVE fresh and cooked veggies - kale, spinach, cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, arugula (rocket), brussels sprouts, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, asparagus, artichokes, cabbage, mushrooms, peppers... I eat more vegetables than most vegetarians I know.

                          As for "I don't want to give up fruit" - apples, grapes (raisins), and bananas are some of the sugariest/starchiest fruits out there... go for some berries (frozen berries are fine as long as they don't have anything added) or even melons. Try to find some dried, unsweetened/nothing added cherries or blueberries to replace your raisins... it's not about giving anything up, it's about being concious of what you're putting in your body.
                          Also, giving up bananas, apples, and raisins would not necessarily mean that you'd have to take a supplement.

                          here's some hypothetical PrimalMama days of meals (which hopefully gives you some ideas):
                          Day 1 (weekday)
                          Breakfast: a bulletproof coffee.
                          Lunch (2pmish): 5 guys "burger salad" (bunless burger [4oz, I think?] with extra veg: lettuce, tomato, pickles, jalapeņos, grilled onions, grilled mushrooms), ice water
                          Dinner (9pmish): Seared Salmon (6-8oz or bigger) with a kale salad (handful of bite-size kale, whatever other veg is in the fridge, homemade dressing), 1C roasted brussels sprouts, and 1/4-1/2C sweet potato, bubbly water with a splash of unsweetened cranberry juice.
                          Dessert/Snacks: a few squares of 87% dark chocolate.

                          Day 2 (weekday):
                          Breakfast: none
                          Snack (noonish): 2 hard boiled eggs with (no sugar) hot sauce, 1/4 C trail mix (raw nuts/seeds, unsugared/unsulfured dried fruit, dried coconut)
                          Lunch (3pmish): Chipotle carnitas bowl - Romaine lettuce (1.5C), Roasted pork (the only meat they have NOT cooked in soy oil - about 4oz), Pico de Gallo (tomatoes, onion, pepper, cilantro), sour cream (2T?), cheese (1/4C?), and Guacamole (1/3c?), unsweetened iced tea with lemon.
                          Dinner (9pmish): Spaghetti Squash (about 3/4C) with homemade tomato sauce (crushed tomatoes, garlic, onion, spices - 1/2C) and hot italian sausages (no sugar added - 1.5 sausages per person), Arugula side salad w/tomatoes, cucumber, and olives, homemade dressing. water.
                          Snack: 1/2 bottle kombucha, a few cubes of pineapple.

                          Day 3 (weekend):
                          Breakfast (whenever I wake up): Bacon (2 slices), 2 Over-medium eggs, veggie sautee (onion, garlic, carrot, red cabbage, cooked in bacon grease - 1C), Coffee with full-fat grass-fed cream.
                          Snack: homemade (oven) Kale Chips
                          Supper: 16 oz. bowl of leftover crockpot beef stew (grass-fed beef shank, onions, carrots, cabbage, crushed tomatoes, broth)
                          Snack/Dessert: smoothie with coconut milk, frozen berries, ice.
                          Dinner: Grass-Fed steak (8+oz), Asparagus (6+spears) w/ grass-fed butter + lemon, hunk of sweet potato (1/2C), glass of red wine.
                          Dessert: a couple squares of dark chocolate, espresso.
                          I tried to put in quantities so you'd have an idea how much food it is, but I don't actually measure stuff, usually. As you can see, both my weekdays include eating lunch out. You'll also notice I eat more on the weekends (lol?)

                          Re: swimming... I HEAR you. I do all-out breast stroke 1/2 mile "sprints" - each takes about 20min. There are always people who sit around the pool chatting for 10min, do a lap or two, chat s'more... and they try to tell me I haven't done enough of a workout. I'm ready to DROP by the time I'm done, so... yeah, no, I'm doing plenty, thanks.
                          HOWEVER, I think building muscle is important too. I hate going to the weight room because people stare and try to tell me how to work out (when I usually have better form and knowledge than they do). So I do a lot of bodyweight stuff (either at home or at the playground), plus I have adjustable 5-25lb weights, exercise ball, etc. at home.

                          okay... long ramble done, hopefully something in there helps.

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                          • #28
                            You don't mention whether you're using store bought dressing and mayo. Potatoes, mayo, dressing, raisins...I would guess you are far above 50g of carbs daily.
                            F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                            "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                            • #29
                              There's no miracle... if it isn't working for you then perhaps try something else. As much as vegetarians are made fun of on this forum, it can yield many positive benefits. Do what's right for you, and not what seems right for you.

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                              • #30
                                I don't see where anyone mentioned having your thyroid check. Have you had a good blood workup lately?

                                Thyroid
                                Cortisol
                                Vitamins

                                Testosterone (if you're a guy) didn't see where you said male or female.

                                Any of those can have an impact on weight loss.

                                Good luck. In my opinion - don't go the vegan/vegetarian route.......... are bodies need MEAT!
                                1. Love ME no matter what noises are screaming at me, or who is trying to tear me down.
                                2. Eat to heal
                                3. Move to live
                                4. Embrace today
                                5. Live with intention
                                6. Respect my body
                                7. Cultivate joy
                                8. Find my passion
                                9. Meditate on peace in my soul

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