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  • #31
    Yeah, if you don't mind, I'd like to see a picture, just to be more certain xP But if you were like that all your life, and it doesn't seem like you stressed out about becoming thin all your life like most people, I can understand where you are coming from with the extra fat. Have you thought about doing more resistance exercise to put those calories to muscle?
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    • #32
      No.... don't just randomly eat fat to lose weight.

      If I were you, I'd try Whole 30 which disallows the "treats". It's only a month. You learn a lot about yourself and eating habits. The treats are probably what are making you gain. The calorie counts in those things get high fast. On occasion, I have a mug cake. That cake has something like 400 calories in it! Yeah, it's good... but no it is too calorie dense to be anything but a treat. People complain about fruit.... but how is a 400 calorie mug cake better than a 100 calorie banana for dessert in terms of weight loss (if you are not someone that just can't have fruit)?

      The next thing is to not view fat as something you can just chow down on. Yeah, put butter on your veggies. But use some sense. It isn't a low fat diet, but eating spoonfuls of fat will make you fat unless it is replacing other calories.

      Lastly, eat more protein.

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      • #33
        I just wanted to point out that for a woman who's 5'4" a weight of 46kg is underweight and 52kg is a beautiful healthy weight. Did you menstrate at your previous weight? Your body may just be hormonally adapting to a healthier diet. Honestly, I wouldn't stress the weight gain too much as long as it doesn't continue. I'm sure you are beautiful as you are. That being said, I do hear you about feeling like the extra fat feels bad on your body. I am a similar height and in the spring I was 52kg and didn't feel great. I think a lot of what I was feeling however was a product of subscribing to a "body ideal" that isn't necessarily ideal. Healthy women have some softness to them. Bones aren't sexy Just my two cents.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Savayla View Post
          I do drink wine every night. I don't use sugars, except for stevia if it calls for it. The only time I use honey is if I am baking . I do have some chocolate now and again, but not like I used to.

          I think it is all the added fat.
          Lol, all of that, ESPECIALLY the wine, is high in carbs, and is definitely the culprit you should be focusing on. Your body has no need to become fat adapted when you're feeding it primal baking goods, wine, some honey, some chocolate, etc. It's getting so much sugar that it's content staying a sugar burner.

          Drop the carbs, keep them around 60-70g I'd say, and keep the fat around 90-100g+

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          • #35
            The only way a really high fat diet works is if you are very low carb, otherwise I think you have to watch the fat intake because if you have more carbs in the diet your body will be able to store those fat calories more easily rather than use them for energy.

            Everyone is different so don't tell her she is underweight when you've never even seen a picture of her. If that's how she's been for 22 years that's probably natural for her, not underweight.

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            • #36
              Not everyone does well on LCHF primal. I sure didn't and adjusted to add more healthy carbs, and I then eat the fat that is naturally in my food or use for cooking. Low carb is a tool for controlling appetite and some medical conditions, but it's not weight loss magic. Eating VLC with calories well in excess of your needs will still cause someone to gain fat.

              Adding loads of fat without changing other stuff in your diet is pretty much a surefire way to gain weight. If you are going to go high fat, you have to be careful that you cut back in other areas. Read Paleobird's story for an example of how not understanding the calorie factor can cause a lot of problems.

              Really, if you felt good and had energy eating more fruit and less fat, then why not go back to that? Just because someone dictates that primal must Always! Be! High! Fat! doesn't mean that's the right thing for you. Some of us eat more fruit and some rice and feel good. If you feel tired and don't like what's happening with your body, then don't let someone bully you into thinking you're just not being good enough at primal. Maybe it's just that high-fat primal isn't good for you.

              And whoa, 41g of protein is really low for an active person. Don't be scared of eating more than that. Honestly, it's not your protein intake that's causing the issue here.

              As for your weight now, well, it sounds like you're still definitely at a healthy weight, but it sounds like you have been very slim naturally for much of your life, so if you feel like what's happening is abnormal for you, then I understand your concern over the weight gain.
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              • #37
                Here is another thought. A LOT of people who have celiac or gluten intolerance might spend their lives super skinny and malnourished...by getting rid of the grains, your body has a chance to heal and better absorb nutrients again.
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                • #38
                  get some blood work done to determine your Cortisol levels and take a close look at your training program as you might have started two things at the same time that will be taxing your system a bit harshly (diet and the exercise program). Also what does your sleep look like? 8-9 hours in a totally dark room? recovery from exercise enough for your level of effort?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Savayla View Post
                    I upped my baking when I started my daughters, aged 10 and 12, on Primal , as I saw that they were always hungry and attacking the fruit bowl with a vengeance.
                    Hi! Hope you are doing fine.
                    I wanted to comment as a primal newby. The above sentence, specifically the "I upped my baking" part, strikes me as somewhat of an odd thing to say. I mean, as a primal newby, the one thing that is off limits in my mind is 'baked' anything. When I say that, I am referring to food items I might see in a bakery. Baked salmon, or baked eggs (quiche), are ok - but I just don't see the general idea of baking as fitting in. I used to bake quite a lot, especially around the holidays, and now I just don't pay attention to that food anymore - except to notice how much floorspace in a grocery store I no longer need to visit.

                    As far as kids, I am not sure about their needs while growing, but Mark's Primal Food Pyramid surely shows the "fruits and vegetables" portion as the large basis for what we should eat. Personally, I think someone trying to be primal might be glad their children are attacking fruit. It truly is more primal that anything baked, in my opinion. But then I am not a nutritionist, or a doctor, nor do I play one on television.

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                    • #40
                      That's my immediate thought, too. Thin, and able to lose weight rapidly post pregnancy - and now gaining it raplidly after dropping gluten - plus a diagnoses of IBS? Those are all bright red flags that celiac testing is in order.

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                      • #41
                        Don't actually know how much nuts I was consuming as the bag was in the cupboard and every time I walked past I would grab a few. As I work from home, that cupboard gets passed a lot

                        Solved. Ditch those or cut back to maybe one day a week.
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                        • #42
                          what is more important for dropping the fat, carbs or calories? my doctor is also stumped as to my reluctance to drop the fat. he suggested I concentrate on my calories, since upping the protein, and fats , and eliminating the grain carbs did not work. so. my lovely three egg frittata breakfast went from nearly 500+ cals to 165 cal. is this the way to go ? I really hate this combo, I really want my yolks and melted cheese on it back! and I miss my sausage and or bacon ! I am also stumped as to, should i not eat until dinner as usual? I am a few hours past breakfast and hungry, but with my old frittata, could easily cruise past the dinner hour. and if i exercise today, not sure if this is enough food!!

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                          • #43
                            I've been primal for about two years now. I went through a period of losing weight easily, but the second I tried to control carbs to lose more weight, I ended up beginning to gain some of the weight back. The biggest difference in my diet was dairy. When I wasn't trying to lose weight, I ate more non-dairy foods, but when I cut back on carbs, I found myself eating a lot of cheese and other low-carb dairy items. It wasn't until I cut dairy completely that weight starting falling off again.

                            If you are having a hard time pinpointing what might be going on, try cutting out dairy. The amount of weight from general inflammation and water retention that was released soon after making this change was quite astounding. I never thought I had an issue with it, but the way I feel now is a dramatic improvement.

                            It's worth a shot, at the very least! Let us know if anything works for you!

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                            • #44
                              My speculation: using an evolutionary template, Grok would've been eating fruits (and honey) going into fall where nuts then come into season. Him and his tribe would've been putting on season fat to get through the leaner winter months. But today we have access to those foods year round. Just because they are paleo/primal doesn't mean you don't limit their use if you are trying to drop weight.
                              He would have eaten dried and frozen fruit just like people do today in the regions that have winters. It is mind boggling how people imagine that living off the land did not involve setting up the supplies. I grew up in a country that did not have out of season supply of fruit, or not much of it. Guess what my grandmother did all summer & fall? She canned, pickled, dried and made jams. We had pickled apples, tomatoes, mushrooms, garlic, cucumbers, etc all winter along with the copious supplies of currant and strawberry and apple jams. Not to mention dried and frozen fruit & honey. Despite the absence of supply, people stockpile. So do animals. If a squarel can dry enough berries for the winter, so can Grok.
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                              • #45
                                I would like to say a BIG thank you to all of you who have replied to my plea for help. You certainly have helped me alot. Already I am feeling better, lost 200g of fat, and know which path I should follow.

                                I know my height and weight is a big factor here, and I will try and post a photo when I learn how. In it you will see a person who is not overweight or fat, but a person who has fat on their thighs and bum. I still look good in clothes, I don't like a body that is too thin but for 22 years, no matter how much I eat, and what, I have just never been able to put on weight. I am not celiac, already been tested. I am not comfortable in my new body. I will have to work hard to adjust it so that it looks better. I am honestly not concerned with how MUCH I weight, just how unhealthy it looks. To me. When naked.

                                I liked the comment regarding trying to turn this into muscle by more resistance work. I am definitely going to be doing that.

                                So far I have dropped eating all the excess fat I was encouraged to eat by my group. Last night I did add a teaspoon of butter to our peas, didn't fry the pork steaks in tallow but olive oil, and had a good dose of virgin olive oil on our salad.

                                I have had to cut down on my exercise as I fell badly twice last week and am going to an osteopath tomorrow to have that sorted. Still walking my dogs though.

                                Baking has stopped , unless it is for a special occasion. So too has the nut grabbing .

                                Am wanting to emulate Marks BAS but I just can't keep a fridge full of veges pre cut as I believe (CW ? ) that once a vege is cut it starts to oxidise and you lose its nutrition within half an hour ?

                                I am eating some rice and fruit as my stomach seems to love it. Have to listen to the stomach.

                                Once again, thank you for helping me on my journey.

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