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  • #16
    I'm in school for natural medicine and the ALCAT is not reliable. There is ONE food sensitivity test at ONE lab that is accurate that just came out in the last year but I cannot for the life of me remember the name.

    I would highly recommend the GAPS diet for you, or at least elements of it like organs, tons of broth and plenty of fermented foods. It will help heal those food sensitivities and likely the headaches and bloating. It is not a quick fix but it will help heal you.

    The bloating (and possibly headaches) tell me you probably need to raise your stomach acid levels. To do this, you can add a little apple cider vinegar in water to drink just before a meal and/or use bitters to stimulate them. You might want to do a hydrochloric acid challenge. Take one pill, and if you feel a little burning, your stomach acid is fine. If not, at the next meal take two. Hopefully, you get results otherwise you've got some work to do to get those levels up.

    Are you on any adaptagenic hebs, like ashwaganda, licorice, rhodiola, etc? These could probably help you but I cannot say you should definitely take them because I have no clue about your health history. Consider taking this quiz about adrenal fatigue: Could I Be Experiencing Adrenal Fatigue?. Adrenal fatigue isn't the whole story but it is an indication of overall metabolic health. Also, look into SIBO: SIBO- Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth - Welcome

    Are you on probiotics? I found it was helpful to do a probiotic bomb, like high levels for three months, and then stick with fermented foods.

    Due to the ALCAT test, I assume you are working with an ND. Don't be afraid to find another one. An even better option would be an ND, LAc.

    I had a lot of weird symptoms a few years ago and fixed myself about 80% with GAPS and array of neutraceuticals and an adaptagenic formula. I finally found an excellent Chinese medicine doctor that specialized in herbs and he got me to about 95%.
    Last edited by jkr; 12-04-2012, 10:54 PM.

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    • #17
      I did the E95 basic food panel and it pretty much confirmed all the things that I was strongly suspecting. It is considered an allergy test, not intolerance. Casein, dairy at diff. degrees whether it be goat or terrible for cow. Eggs whites off the charts. Egg yolks moderate. Almonds also off the charts (I suspect all tree nuts,but didn't test for all) Those were the strongest, good for all meat. Even gluten and wheat ok.(think that is more an intolerance). Everything else mentioned that is more moderate I will test for individually. It at least gives me a start. My naturopath has found that to be the case with the testing. It is controversial but he found that for his patients that it confirmed their suspects. So really hard eating out, no dairy, no eggs, no grains........ I am sad too.

      In your case given the amount of things they mention. Beef would be the biggest prob. for me ackkks!! I think I would start only eliminating the strongest first and go from there. Particularly the things that you really feel are a problem. My test really only confirmed my suspects. Added a few more for me to test, but even then had an inkling. When there are a lot of intolerances it can be really hard to figure it all out because you feel bad all the time. Hopefully removing the worst will give you some positives to work on.
      Last edited by Silvergirl; 12-05-2012, 09:10 AM.
      Started Primal June 2012 at 148.5lbs, and 5' 1", reached goal weight in 5 months.
      Lowest weight 93lbs - too thin. Now stable at around 100lbs much better weight for me at my age.
      Primal, minus eggs, dairy and a myriad of other allergens.

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      • #18
        Oh my god, I don't think I can live without those

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        • #19
          I am no expert and I know anything about this diet, but I have a question: Did you check you thyroids?

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          • #20
            Again, she must check thyroids.
            What I like about this primal thing is flexibility. There are some great minds in the movement (unlike idiotic veganism) who respond to problems and make adjustments.
            Yes, there is a problem with VLC diet and I am glad that this problem has been noticed. I thought I wasn't low carbs (I didn't want to be VLC), but the familiar problem with T3 (and headaches and bad sleep and fatigue) forced me to start counting and more importantly eating more carbs.
            Jaminet has a series of articles on the topic with contributions of many.
            Last edited by anna5; 12-05-2012, 06:18 AM.

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            • #21
              I would try cutting out known problematic foods before cutting out all of that -- all dairy, nightshades, and any unsprouted nuts/seeds/grains/legumes. You may very well have developed an egg intolerance, so you might want to try eliminating them for a while.

              Cut cacao and coffee back to a minimum if you do those at all.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by tarek View Post
                I would try cutting out known problematic foods before cutting out all of that -- all dairy, nightshades, and any unsprouted nuts/seeds/grains/legumes. You may very well have developed an egg intolerance, so you might want to try eliminating them for a while.

                Cut cacao and coffee back to a minimum if you do those at all.
                Just to make one reply to multiple questions ...

                Yes, I get lots of magnesium. Take it every night to help with sleep. I take as much as my body with tolerate without having any, errrr, "gastrointestinal distress".

                Yep, I've had thyroid checked out. Along with a whole panel of other things like parathyroid, iron, copper levels, and dozens of other things. The only thing that came up was elevated liver enzymes ... like not incredibly high, but consistently a little high. Doctor hasn't been able to figure out the "why" though.

                Right now I'm cutting out all dairy, nightshades, legumes, grains, eggs and seed oils. I know that these items are pretty common causes of food intolerances. To be on the safe side, I'm also cutting out anything that the test said I was Severe/Moderate for, such as black pepper, bananas, beef, strawberries, green beans, etc.

                I guess I figure that worst case, I'm going to limit the types of veggies/fruits and replace beef with seafood for 3 months. Is there any way that will harm me? I'm thinking no. I was worried at first about getting my 3:6 ratio all out of whack, but if I replace beef with scallops/mahi-mahi/lamb instead of more pork and chicken, I should be ok right? Really I'm willing to try just about anything, if it could possibly help with any of the following: congestion, fatigue, insomnia, headaches, bloating. I would say that every day, at least 3 of the 5 are impacting my quality of life ... and after over a year I can safely say that "just primal" is not fixing it.

                I will let everyone know how this goes. If it turns out to be a waste of time, that's fine. But if I actually see improvements by eating according to the ALCAT, then I'll be sure to share the details. I think a lot of us found our way to primal eating because of food intolerances (most commonly gluten).

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                • #23
                  Are you planning to address your likely low stomach acid and/or poor pancreatic enzyme production? I can guarantee you these are part of the problem. Just removing random foods from an unreliable test most likely isn't going to get you better, unless you are focused on healing, not just removing the potential problem. Again, are you on any herbs?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jkr View Post
                    Are you planning to address your likely low stomach acid and/or poor pancreatic enzyme production? I can guarantee you these are part of the problem. Just removing random foods from an unreliable test most likely isn't going to get you better, unless you are focused on healing, not just removing the potential problem. Again, are you on any herbs?
                    I take serenagen, which is a traditional Chinese herbal blend. It improves sleep. It's not the cause of any of my problems, which long predate when I started to take it. My insomnia actually got worse when I switched to a primal diet, and this did help. Ingredients: Rehmannia Root, Schisandra Fruit, Jujube Fruit, Dong Quai Root, Chinese Asparagus Root, Ophiopogon Root, Asian Ginseng Root, Chinese Salvia Root, Poria Fungus, Polygala Root, Platycodon Root

                    Regarding poor pancreatic enzyme production: I read a list of symptoms and only one out of them (bloating) applied. I'm not hungry soon after meals. I don't have difficulty gaining weight. I don't have excessive food cravings. I never get indigestion or nausea after meals. I rarely get diarrhea now that I don't eat gluten. I don't see any undigested food passing through. I'm not anemic and don't have any other nutrient deficiencies. My doctor tested everything related to the liver after seeing the slightly elevated liver enzymes, and did not see anything. Are you assuming that I have poor pancreatic enzyme production ONLY because I have bloating?

                    The symptoms for low stomach acid seem to be far more diverse. Heartburn or indigestion? Never in my entire life. Undigested food passing through? No. Bloating/gas immediately after eating? It happens, but at seemingly random times, not right after meals. Acne, nutrient deficiencies, dry skin, hair loss, cracked fingernails? No, no, no, no and no. Autoimmune diseases, chronic fatigue, food allergies? Yes (Reynaud's), yes and yes (allergies being different than sensitivities - - I am allergic to certain fake fruit flavors). So I suppose this does seem more likely than poor pancreatic enzyme production, although I don't know why it would go to the top of the list.

                    On the other hand, when I look into symptoms of food sensitivities, I find all four: headaches, fatigue, bloating and insomnia. I'm trying to be logical here. The old, "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras."

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