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    Hi, my problem is that my weight loss has stalled despite regular activity, sprints, and a large deficit. Sixteen, 6 foot, and 195 lbs. (Down from 250!) My kcal intake is about 1500-1800 a day, mostly protein and fat. Should I add more since im stalled? I lift 3/week, sprint, attend school where I'm walking across a rather large campus, and walk briskly maybe 7 hours a week. Up calories?
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    Have you got a picture?
    The reason I ask is that I don't think 195 is heavy for 6ft, but obviously that depends on body composition.

    It also depends on your goal, are you trying to build muscle or lose fat? The two may not be mutually exclusive, but having one as a priority may effect whether you stay in what sounds like a calorie restricted state to me, or add calories.

    Just a thought and probably not too helpful, sorry.
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    • #3
      Bro, eat & lift. Just work on your body comp, 195 @ 6' is great if your body comp is good.
      "Go For Broke"
      Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
      Small Kine-168/9%
      Now- 200/8%
      Goal- 210/6%

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      • #4
        FYI I eat 4000-5000 kcal/day. But I'm gaining weight.
        "Go For Broke"
        Fat Kine-230/24% @ 6'2"
        Small Kine-168/9%
        Now- 200/8%
        Goal- 210/6%

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        • #5
          How are you defining 'stalled'? Dr. Atkins used to say that 'stalled' is at least 6 weeks with no change in scale number or measurements. Too many people expect daily or weekly losses (on the scale), and our bodies often don't operate like that.

          The idea that eating too little will 'stall' you is an urban myth, popularized even by people who should know better like Dr. Oz. If that were true, then anorexics would never lose weight.

          At 16, please don't become obsessed with your weight.

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          • #6
            If I understand you correctly, you are not losing weight at this point, presumably because your energy and repair needs are being met by your diet. So, your proposal would be to add energy to a system that is demonstrably at energy equilibrium, because a surfeit of energy will somehow induce this system to convert mass into yet more energy rather than converting the energy surplus into mass.

            Does that sound about right? Further, does that sound to you like a successful strategy? You would be violating all sorts of fundamental laws of physics if you could pull that off. But if you can, I would happily invest in your perpetual motion machine.

            Some things to try, in no particular order: eat less, train more, change your macro nutrient breakdown.

            -PK
            My blog : cogitoergoedo.com

            Interested in Intermittent Fasting? This might help: part 1, part 2, part 3.

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            • #7
              In my experience, eating too few calories leads to stalled weight loss. I WAS averaging 1200-1400 calories (5'3, ~135 at the time), very active, solid weight plateau for well over a year. A sports nutritionist convinced to me increase my caloric intake by more than 50% and the pounds started falling off again. It happens. My diet was as clean as possible at the time (as clean a CW low-fat diet can be) and the only thing I changed was my daily calorie intake.

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              • #8
                You're 16. YOU'RE STILL GROWING. Your body is probably hanging onto every calorie because it NEEDS it for growth. Teens probably burn 1800 cal just getting up and walking to the fridge. EAT for optimal health, MOVE for optimal body comp. Disregard the scale.
                Sandra
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                • #9
                  I am a female, 31 yrs old, 5'7", 175 lbs. I eat about 1800-1900 calories. I'm done growing, you're not. I think you may be undereating. If you increase, be sure to choose good quality nutritious foods.

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                  • #10
                    You are 16 and still growing. Eat more, lift more, and let your body grow...just not so much horizontally.
                    F 28/5'4/100 lbs

                    "I'm not a psychopath, I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                      In my experience, eating too few calories leads to stalled weight loss.
                      Sound like magical thinking to me, or a urban myth as a poster stated above, because if you reduce your food below what the body needs for energy it is impossible not to lose weight! According to your "logic" not eating at all should also make you stall then? What happens sometimes though is that the body retain water due to the stress of dieting. When emptying the fatcells for triglycerides, the body pump in water in the empty fatcells and this appears as fat and the water also have a higher density(weight) than fat. The so called "stall" is often that the body "masks" its fatloss with retaining water, and if changing the diet to more calories and carbs, the miracle often happens overnight, that you suddenly lose several pounds, and also look much leaner. Personally I have experienced this happen more than once, weightloss is seldom a liniar prosess...
                      Last edited by Gorbag; 11-22-2012, 05:56 PM.
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                      • #12
                        According to my doctor and more than one sports nutritionist I've visited, at least women's bodies, will turn everything possible into fat if it thinks lean times are coming. I've had long periods of time where I operated on quite restricted calories (900-1,000 calories a day), exercised my heart out 4 days a week, and not only did I not lose weight but my body fat percentage increased. This wasn't "my" logic - it never did make sense to me when my doctor, coach, and sports nutritionist all insisted the real problem wasn't enough calories and that my body wouldn't give up anything until I gave it more. It worked.

                        It is certainly possible that what was really going on was the process you described - the bod pod machine used to measure my composition will interpret everything that isn't lean muscle mass as fat - at least that is my understanding. My weight loss that came when I increased my caloric intake was not fast but took place over a 3-4 month period.
                        Last edited by Catrin; 11-22-2012, 06:39 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                          According to my doctor and more than one sports nutritionist I've visited, at least women's bodies, will turn everything possible into fat if it thinks lean times are coming. I've had long periods of time where I operated on quite restricted calories (900-1,000 calories a day), exercised my heart out 4 days a week, and not only did I not lose weight but my body fat percentage increased. This wasn't "my" logic - it never did make sense to me when my doctor, coach, and sports nutritionist all insisted the real problem wasn't enough calories and that my body wouldn't give up anything until I gave it more. It worked.
                          Well, either your doctor is plain out wrong or you misunderstood him. And even IF it was correct that the body "(...) turn everything possible into fat if it thinks lean times are coming.", you would lose weight even faster, because converting protein and glucose into fat is very energy demanding, and what really matter is wether you are in a energy deficit or not. In other words, the body need the energy to cover it's demands and will burn whatever available to do just that! The energy balance still counts!

                          Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                          It is certainly possible that what was really going on was the process you described - the bod pod machine used to measure my composition will interpret everything that isn't lean muscle mass as fat - at least that is my understanding. My weight loss that came when I increased my caloric intake was not fast but took place over a 3-4 month period.
                          Then it is possible that you spent more calories on training or moving around, nobody can lose weight by eating more if other parameters are kept the same...
                          "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                          - Schopenhauer

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
                            Sound like magical thinking to me, or a urban myth as a poster stated above, because if you reduce your food below what the body needs for energy it is impossible not to lose weight! According to your "logic" not eating at all should also make you stall then? What happens sometimes though is that the body retain water due to the stress of dieting. When emptying the fatcells for triglycerides, the body pump in water in the empty fatcells and this appears as fat and the water also have a higher density(weight) than fat. The so called "stall" is often that the body "masks" its fatloss with retaining water, and if changing the diet to more calories and carbs, the miracle often happens overnight, that you suddenly lose several pounds, and also look much leaner. Personally I have experienced this happen more than once, weightloss is seldom a liniar prosess...
                            I have to agree with Catrin. While I agree that weightloss is linear, it is very possible to not eat enough to lose weight. I have experienced this time and again while trying to lose weight. Just because it doesn't make sense on paper, doesn't mean it isn't true. It is not as simple as CICO because the body has several other mechanisms working. I have actually gained weight when not eating enough, and lost weight when I made sure I was eating enough.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by teach2183 View Post
                              I have to agree with Catrin. While I agree that weightloss is linear, it is very possible to not eat enough to lose weight. I have experienced this time and again while trying to lose weight. Just because it doesn't make sense on paper, doesn't mean it isn't true.
                              It doesen't make sense, and it is'nt true either, because if so were the case, then we had to add food to lose weight instead of reducing the food intake, which would be more than absurd! But if eating less food make you move less around or train less intense, well that may be possible after all! On the other hand if the body burn energy equivalent to 2000 kcal and you only ingest food equivalent to 1000 kcal, then the difference of 1000 kcal must be taken from energy stored in the body, there is no way to bypass that...
                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                              - Schopenhauer

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