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    Hi

    I have been on Primal for over two weeks now, very focused on keeping carbs around 50 g for the past week now. Have done a few IF's. Exercise is Primal. Getting a decent amount of fat in.

    Been very fatigued this week and my mood very low. I am finding that my face is puffy, my sinuses flared up, I am very tired especially in the afternoon and very thirsty all of the time. At first I felt like I was more defined, but now its seems not so.

    Did anyone experience low carb flu symptoms like this? Did anyone puff up a little in the beginning?

    My diet pre-primal was not the SAD. My exercise was walking and interval training. The only thing I was eating that could contribute to weight was milk chocolate ...daily .. or most days.

    I would have thought just cutting that out for three weeks I would see a drastic change. But I haven't. I weigh about 67kg, the last time I had a body fat test I was 26%.

    In the past when I eat salads, I tend to bloat and gain water. I have been eating lots of salads as its easier to prepare. I would hate not to be able to eat raw food.

    I am really at a loss here. Any ideas? I am starting to feel demotivated and the carrot cake at the coffee shop looks more and more enticing (I never enjoyed cake before!) ... seeing that Im not seeing results.

    If I had energy, a clear head, better mood ... it would be easier to stick to this even without fat loss. But thats not happening either.

  • #2
    I didnt mention what i was eating:

    2 tbsp coconut oil in coffee or green tea, tbsp xylitol (birch tree extract)

    Lunch: 100g or so of fish / lamb / lean beef
    salad
    1 tbsp fenugreek sprouts
    1/4 avocado

    Snack: pecans or macadamia or almonds - all raw

    Supper 6pm or even earlier: Same as above

    No alcohol, no diary

    I tried eating the Leptin Rx, but 50 g of protein is just too much for me. I found that it was stretching my stomach, not what i want for myself. LOL

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    • #3
      What exactly do you eat?
      What is a decent amount of fat? What kind of fat? What are you getting at the coffee shop? You shouldn't be fasting yet. What are your "salads"? If you are thirsty, drink. You will have "carb flu" or whatever, yes; your body will be changing and reacting to the food and changing drastically hormonally for the next few months.

      Edit after the second post: You are doing well. Possibly increase saturated fat intake. Eat more diverse vegetables, especially greens. Do not expect anything and take up a hobby to distract yourself for the next few months.
      Last edited by Cavebot 3.0; 11-21-2012, 11:27 PM.

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      • #4
        That's not much food. I am not trying to lose but I'm eating way more than that. Everything looks great, it's just that you don't seem to be eating very much unless you're eating a huge quantity of nuts and not realizing it.
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        • #5
          Excess sodium intake maybe?

          50g of protein too much? How is that possible? You should be eating around 150g (100g on the low end) a day, give or take.
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          • #6
            It seems people who have destroyed their appetites don't do well on Primal. I know of more than a few journals that cosistently drop ,"Today I ate a bean sprout and three grapes. This is going to make me fat." These anorexic people will never eat enough to heal their bodies. Until you can eat more, your body will be falling apart. Don't blame Primal for the fact that you need to eat more. Work up to it if you have to. But until you can eat at least you BMR per day, you will be telling your body, "There isn't enough food, stay fat so we don't die." Sorry to be blunt, but I see this over and over and over. Just stuff your face. Eat until you are BLOATED for about six months before expecting to see any changes. I GAINED like 15 pounds at first, stuffing my face with nuts while my body slowly became convinced that food was abundant. Then it melted off, in the next year and a half of consistently eating large, fatty, nutrient dense meals with lots of liver and cooked greens every week. Just do it.
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            • #7
              I don't have any comment on the amount of food you list because I have to eat very low calorie myself just to maintain my weight, something the men on this site often fail to understand about females.

              However, if the bloating you're experiencing correlates to the increase in salads (raw veggies), I'd experiment by eliminating all raw vegetables for a while to see if that's the problem. I've known people who cannot tolerate a large portion of their diet raw.

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              • #8
                x2 on very little raw food. Mostly cooked sits best with some people, myself included. I mean, apples, berries, etc seem to be okay, but greens in large amounts just don't digest at all.
                Crohn's, doing SCD

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SAGrokette View Post
                  I didnt mention what i was eating:

                  2 tbsp coconut oil in coffee or green tea, tbsp xylitol (birch tree extract)

                  Lunch: 100g or so of fish / lamb / lean beef
                  salad
                  1 tbsp fenugreek sprouts
                  1/4 avocado

                  Snack: pecans or macadamia or almonds - all raw

                  Supper 6pm or even earlier: Same as above

                  No alcohol, no diary

                  I tried eating the Leptin Rx, but 50 g of protein is just too much for me. I found that it was stretching my stomach, not what i want for myself. LOL
                  I agree with everyone above. You likely need to be eating at least twice this amount. Here is what I would suggest:
                  - Try a few eggs in the morning
                  - Increase your protein intake to 150g with each meal and no need to limit yourself to lean meat. Try to eat some animal fats. It doesn't have to be much but even skinless chicken legs or a bit of fat on a pork chop can help.
                  - Cooked veggies to help you digest

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                  • #10
                    Make a huge pot of hearty bone broth, and drink that throughout the day, whenever you feel like.

                    Don't worry about people telling you that you are not eating enough. Let your body adjust to the diet and your digestion to heal. Eat clean foods, but whatever feels appealing, otherwise you will run yourself into the ground. If you are looking longingly at coffee shops, try baking a banana or a sweet potato with cinnamon. I would take salmon and meats over the nuts and sprouts while your stomach is adjusting as it is easier on your system. You might try easier to digest vegetables, like zuccini or tomatoes. And, if you can tolerate dairy, and a bit of greek yougurt in the evening.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by emmie View Post
                      I don't have any comment on the amount of food you list because I have to eat very low calorie myself just to maintain my weight, something the men on this site often fail to understand about females.

                      However, if the bloating you're experiencing correlates to the increase in salads (raw veggies), I'd experiment by eliminating all raw vegetables for a while to see if that's the problem. I've known people who cannot tolerate a large portion of their diet raw.
                      Something the men on the site may fail to understand about some females. Others of us do much better without severe calorie restriction. Saying that all women need to be very restrictive about calories is just as silly as the men who think it doesn't matter at all. I think some women do restrict too severely and run into problems losing because of it. That's not to say one shouldn't be conscious about calories or that restriction doesn't work for some, but I wouldn't dismiss concerns over intake based solely on gender.

                      However, I also agree that if salads have caused this issue in the past, they are a likely culprit now, and experimenting with eating cooked vegetables instead is a good place to start troubleshooting. If salads are easy, I suggest going with vegetables that you can pre-cook and heat or that can be cooked fairly quickly (greens, for example, are very quick to prepare and cook) so that you keep the fuss to a minimum.

                      Additionally, raw nuts are not ideal for everyone. Is there another option you feel you could turn to for snacks?
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                      • #12
                        Carb flu can last several weeks for some people. Also, I have noticed that when I eat a lot of salads or a lot of veggies, I tend to be very bloated as well. I think for some the veggies can be hard on our system and more difficult to digest. I personally have cut veggies way down, basically I have two servings a day now, usually spinach or kale and my stomach is much happier. My tummy is actually pretty flat now, and I don't have any gas or bloating anymore, and my bowel movements have improved a lot (meaning, they are no longer loose every day).

                        I think I was just eating too many veggies before. But it's a really individual thing. Some folks do fine eating a ton of veggies, and some don't.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                          until you can eat at least you BMR per day, you will be telling your body, "There isn't enough food, stay fat so we don't die."
                          This is very true. And Owly is right, too. Not all women need to eat 1100 calories a day to maintain our weight. There seems to be a sweet spot for me above which I have all the energy needed to be very active, very happy and cheerful, smile and be friendly to people. When I go below this level (and honestly I don't even know what calorie count it really is, but it's way more than 1100 that's for sure), I get sluggish, dark, sleepy and spend more time just sitting under a down blanket.

                          Try eating more fats from animals and from avocados. You may find that adding fat in makes you spontaneously consume fewer calories (because you snack less) and it might help your inflammation and your digestion, too. And I agree with the cooked vegetables. Lightly steamed may be enough to make them easier to digest.
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                          • #14
                            :0) Thank for the reply. Its amazing to hear from those with experience .

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                            • #15
                              :0)) That makes so much sense Knifegill. Thanks. I am working on increasing my intake. I have never been a foodie, I dont look forward to mealtimes. I eat to live, but clearly not enough to thrive!

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