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  • Dairy and gum bad for keto?

    Just wondering, should I not eat cottage cheese or greek yogurt if trying to get into ketosis even if it is full fat and within my carbs for the day? What about chewing gum?

  • #2
    Personally, I would ditch the chewing gum entirely and permanently. It only keeps your tastebuds in sweet stuff mode. You want to re-educate them.

    About dairy, it can be a very helpful part of a ketogenic diet as long as you go for the options that are higher in fat relative to milk solids. Some of my favorites are cream, cream cheese, mascarpone cheese, brie, camembert, and such. I don't drink just straight milk because the lactose to fat tradeoff just isn't good enough.

    But any dairy product is ok as long as you are figuring those fat grams vs. carbs and coming out ahead for the day.

    Another non dairy option is cultured coconut milk. Tastes like kefir only better. Yumm.

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    • #3
      It's so frustrating. I can't find full fat cream without carrageenan in it, and it would be really helpful to have it. The cottage cheese is nice because it has a good amount of protein, so if I'm in a hurry and don't have time to cook meat, cottage cheese is right there ready to go. I never drink milk though. And I really just like the taste of the greek yogurt, but I could do without it.

      I can't have coconut milk anymore. I found out that was the culprit of some major intestinal distress that I was having a few months ago, so pretty much all coconut is out unless it's a very small quantity.

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      • #4
        have you looked for Kalona Supernatural? I think they sell it in CA. Check your local Whole Foods or Trader Joes if you have one. Strauss Creamery is another good one, and I know there's at least one commercial raw milk vendor in CA that I saw at Sprouts/Sunflower Market while in San Diego.
        ORGANIC PASTURES FRESH RAW DAIRY
        Store Locations Kalona SuperNatural
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
          It's so frustrating. I can't find full fat cream without carrageenan in it, and it would be really helpful to have it. The cottage cheese is nice because it has a good amount of protein, so if I'm in a hurry and don't have time to cook meat, cottage cheese is right there ready to go. I never drink milk though. And I really just like the taste of the greek yogurt, but I could do without it.

          I can't have coconut milk anymore. I found out that was the culprit of some major intestinal distress that I was having a few months ago, so pretty much all coconut is out unless it's a very small quantity.
          Google "Organic Pastures" since you are here in CA. They deliver.

          Perhaps the cultured variety would be easier on your digestion. I know that there are a lot of people who can't tolerate regular dairy but do fine with fermented products such as yoghurt and kefir.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
            have you looked for Kalona Supernatural? I think they sell it in CA. Check your local Whole Foods or Trader Joes if you have one. Strauss Creamery is another good one, and I know there's at least one commercial raw milk vendor in CA that I saw at Sprouts/Sunflower Market while in San Diego.
            ORGANIC PASTURES FRESH RAW DAIRY
            Store Locations Kalona SuperNatural
            I'm usually able to get Strauss cream at the Raleys down the street, but they have been out for a couple weeks.

            Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
            Google "Organic Pastures" since you are here in CA. They deliver.

            Perhaps the cultured variety would be easier on your digestion. I know that there are a lot of people who can't tolerate regular dairy but do fine with fermented products such as yoghurt and kefir.
            Awesome, thanks so much!!! So, you're saying get a cultured variety of coconut milk? Would that be at a Whole Foods?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
              Awesome, thanks so much!!! So, you're saying get a cultured variety of coconut milk? Would that be at a Whole Foods?
              I get mine at Sprouts. Whole Paycheck may have some too. I don't know. Where in CA do you call home?

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              • #8
                Paleobird will probably say "Aw, Bork, missed it by *that* much" after suggesting 2 awesome products, buuuuut... So Delicious makes a coconut milk kefir.
                I think Lifeway does, too. That one might be a better option.
                You could, of course, always order some kefir grains and make your own deliciousness
                This seems so wrong, yet so right:
                Egg Nog Kefir
                --Trish (Bork)
                TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                • #9
                  I don't do ketosis, BUT if chewing gum isn't setting off cravings for sweets, you should probably be fine. I didn't chew gum for a year or so, but I then realized that when I go to business meetings and events, it's a must. I've tried a few different natural brands of gum, and the Pur brand is by far the best -- it's almost indistinguishable from conventional gum taste-wise, and it doesn't lose flavor or become gritty. Highly recommended.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                    I get mine at Sprouts. Whole Paycheck may have some too. I don't know. Where in CA do you call home?
                    I live in Tracy, Northern Cali. Closest whole foods is San Ramon. I think there may be a TJ's closer though.

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                    • #11
                      Dairy is fine for keto, just try to stick to low carb dairy such as cheese and heavy cream. Milk, because of the lactose content (it's a damn sugar folks) is not a great idea for maintaining ketosis. Just keep the carb content of your dairy in mind and count it towards daily totals.

                      Gum, being such a low glycemic index food (using the term loosely here), is probably not going to harm your ketosis (unless you chew a TON of it), but the artificial sweeteners often used in it, plus the soy lecithin, and all the rest, not a good option for other reasons. And for some folks it may keep their sweet taste trained and on ketosis you definitely want to curb that if only to limit cravings.
                      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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