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  • #31
    I track my calories daily and don't often go over 1500, a good deal of that comes from fat.

    And bulletproof joe godlier than bacon? I think not.

    Now an argument over Vosges Mo's Bacon Bar might get me going on godliness!
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    • #32
      I have a feeling that her macros are going to turn out just fine without any additional fat intake.

      And really... You don't need bulletproof beverages to live.
      "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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      • #33
        I did the bulletproof coffee briefly. It's was damn good, but it was REALLY HARD to go back to regular coffee with cream after getting used to that, lol!!! I just do a splash of cream now. I take my tea straight up.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
          Well, about 0.7-1 gram per pound, yes. That's a good number for muscle maintenance. You can convert that to kg if you like, but it's a bit less per kg for sure.
          2g / kg is what I always heard, works out about the same.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Drumroll View Post

            And really... You don't need bulletproof beverages to live.
            True. Especially when you can get a whole canned Tuna in water, in change for the calories of just one topped tablespoon of butter! But many bulletproof dieters put even two tablespoons of butter + MCT oil in their coffee...
            "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

            - Schopenhauer

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Gorbag View Post
              True. Especially when you can get a whole canned Tuna in water, in change for the calories of just one topped tablespoon of butter! But many bulletproof dieters put even two tablespoons of butter + MCT oil in their coffee...
              That's what I used to do......heavenly.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                I have a feeling that her macros are going to turn out just fine without any additional fat intake.

                Hmmmm.....is that a compliment, orrrrrr...........lol!!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
                  That's what I used to do......heavenly.
                  Yeah, no problems if it fits the macros of your diet. When not trying to lose weight, I sometimes put butter in hot chocholate! Very tasty...
                  "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

                  - Schopenhauer

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                  • #39
                    I'm interested in this. How did you know when you are keto-adapted, and how was the transition period?

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                    • #40
                      I would but I just can't give up my starchy vegetables like leeks, squash, etc. Forget meat, vegetables are my downfall.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SJW2 View Post
                        I of course don't believe everything I read. However, when trusted sources like Dr. Kurt Harris and others question whether ketosis is good to stay in for long periods of time, I do a double take - hence the question.

                        Obviously ketogenic diets are prescribed for those with epilepsy. My understanding was because the advantages outweigh the risk. But I have to hear a compelling reason why they would be harmful. I was trying to do my due diligence. As I said, I suspect there is zero danger whatsoever.

                        Thanks for the response - glad it is doing great for you.
                        "Trusted source" and "Kurt Harris" stopped being in the same sentence for me a while back.

                        Originally posted by Graycat View Post
                        I have done a successful keto diet in the past with some great results. I also beleve it's very primal to consume less carbs in the winter time. I'm currently maintainIng, so at this time am not interested. Personally, I don't believe it should be done long term unless there is a health issue that could greatly benefit from ketosis.
                        Why? If it is safe for someone with epilepsy, it is safe for others as well.

                        Originally posted by Drumroll View Post
                        Well, about 0.7-1 gram per pound, yes. That's a good number for muscle maintenance. You can convert that to kg if you like, but it's a bit less per kg for sure.
                        I would say that is a good range too. So does Mark.

                        Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
                        So then, I could keep carbs around 20-30/day (from veggies) and then in 3-4 weeks I'll be keto adapted? I tried it before, but I don't know that I went long enough to really get to the point of being fully keto adapted. I want to try it again and see how I feel. Last time I did it I got to three weeks.
                        The time it takes is very much dependent on how much of a carb burner you are to begin with.

                        Originally posted by Damiana View Post
                        I would but I just can't give up my starchy vegetables like leeks, squash, etc. Forget meat, vegetables are my downfall.
                        Who said you can't have vegetables?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                          Who said you can't have vegetables?
                          Considering a medium sized white potato is around 30g carb (per this link: The Carbohydrate Values Of Sweet Potatoes And White Potatoes | LIVESTRONG.COM) I don't understand why people think they can't eat as many non-starch vegs as they'd like.

                          That's the only way I can sort of do the keto thing, by eating a lot of veggies to try and forget about the beautiful potato.
                          I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                          • #43
                            This is harder than I thought it was going to be. I'm already up to 26g of carbs for the day. Maybe the greek yogurt after my workout wasn't a good idea? Oh, and I didn't know how high in carbs balsamic vinegar was, as well as avocado. *sigh*

                            Looks like it's just meat for dinner tonight, lmao!!!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
                              This is harder than I thought it was going to be. I'm already up to 26g of carbs for the day. Maybe the greek yogurt after my workout wasn't a good idea? Oh, and I didn't know how high in carbs balsamic vinegar was, as well as avocado. *sigh*

                              Looks like it's just meat for dinner tonight, lmao!!!
                              You're good up to 50 ish, so I wouldn't worry too much. I mean, you're good until 100ish, but since you're trying to dip into ketosis quickly it's best to stick even lower.
                              I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MarissaLinnea View Post
                                This is harder than I thought it was going to be. I'm already up to 26g of carbs for the day. Maybe the greek yogurt after my workout wasn't a good idea? Oh, and I didn't know how high in carbs balsamic vinegar was, as well as avocado. *sigh*

                                Looks like it's just meat for dinner tonight, lmao!!!
                                Yup greek yoghurt did that to me too. Who knew? Lol. You'll just have to get down and dirty with heavy cream.

                                Are you counting total carbs or net? I read through the 100 pages or so of 'eat MOAR fat' and it really shook my way of thinking up...for the better. I took Paleobird's line of thinking from that (hopefully correctly?) and I started counting net carbs (total carbs minus fibre) and still feel like it's working pretty good. But I'm learning, n=1
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