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  • #31
    As someone who tried it all except for potatoes only, the fad that actually worked were carb cycling and 'no fruit, nuts & dairy'. The later will probably work with nuts and dairy to be honest.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
      And so I embarked upon my quest to eat nothing but potatoes for three straight years... and supplement with iodine!
      lmao and rofl. at the same time.
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      • #33
        I think it is great when ppl have already figured out what works for them and either got in shape or stayed in shape to begin with. The ppl that have already arrived for the most part and can say, all you have to do is "this, kudos to them. For the rest of us, we are still trying to figure it out.

        Yes, I can follow PB and get there, sure. When I lower the carbs which naturally increased the fat, and moderate protein, my weight loss slows down to 2-3lbs per month. Since March until October, trying to play it by the book, the PB book, I lost about 20lbs. That is not too bad, but the majority of that came the first few months while I was still trying to learn PB and the more I honed in on PB way of eating, the more the weight loss slowed until it was crawling at 0-2lbs per month.

        So let's call it 2lbs. That means if I continued on the PB "general" path, I would be at my ideal weight in.....depending on my muscle and body composition... I should hit my ideal body in about... 3 - 5 more... years!! Forgive me for wanting to figure out a way to get there sooner - how silly of me.
        Last edited by gopintos; 11-09-2012, 01:51 PM.
        65lbs gone and counting!!

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        • #34
          Okay guys this is just a thought.... I am not saying yay or nay to either parties.....but just a thought to provoke your neurons.......
          40,000 years ago we had a whole bunch of different races all over the world. Some skin colours were lilly white, some olive, some dark, and some black as black. (there may have been some yellow - but I cannot remember)LOL
          Lets start mixing these people up a little....... For all I know I might have african ancestors. I am lilly white, have a ski ramp nose, short stumpy fingers etc..... but after 40,000+ years of breeding, who knows ?????
          Last edited by NZ primal Gwamma; 11-09-2012, 01:55 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
            Ignore potatoes. If you're a typical white person with good amounts of neanderthal ancestry, high-fat VLC is the way to go for most of us. If you're a pure sapiens, South African, etc., go for the starches, fine, for most of you. As a Neanderthal hybrid I've had terrible luck trying to add potatoes and starches back into my food menu. Diarrhea and bloating and binges, hunger that won't go away, etc. When I stay high-fat MOST of the time I have even energy, normal appetite, etc.

            That's a fad. Adding potatoes to a high-fat diet.

            But seriously. F potatoes. Even sweet potatoes, I'm learning. Not for super-white neanderthal peoples.
            sorry guys I meant to add this quote in above !!!! Ditsy Gwamma. I wonder where that ditsy stuff came from 'way back in the day'?
            "never let the truth get in the way of a good story "

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            • #36
              Originally posted by NZ primal Gwamma View Post
              Okay guys this is just a thought.... I am not saying yay or nay to either parties.....but just a thought to provoke your neurons.......
              40,000 years ago we had a whole bunch of different races all over the world. Some skin colours were lilly white, some olive, some dark, and some black as black. (there may have been some yellow - but I cannot remember)LOL
              Lets start mixing these people up a little....... For all I know I might have african ancestors. I am lilly white, have a ski ramp nose, short stumpy fingers etc..... but after 40,000 years of breeding, who knows ?????
              That's kinda what I was gonna say.

              I reckon Knifegill is right that ancestory has a role in what particuar ratios you thrive on, but as we are 99% the same geans as a chimpanzee and I look more like a chimp than most you still are gonna have to be pretty drunk to mix us up. So I don't think you can rely on what you look like to determine what you will thrive on, you could be white an red haired and still be expressing genes that mean you thrive on fruit or be a native of africa and can trace your ancenstors back generations and express the genes that mean you thrive on VLC HF. You've got to experiment on your-self to find out, like I now know potoaes make me hungry, even though I'm from Irish stock
              You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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              • #37
                That means if I continued on the PB "general" path, I would be at my ideal weight in.....depending on my muscle and body composition... I should hit my ideal body in about... 3 - 5 more... years!!
                Sounds good to me. Why you in such a hurry? I'm two years in and still seeing changes in my body.
                Crohn's, doing SCD

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Knifegill View Post
                  Sounds good to me. Why you in such a hurry? I'm two years in and still seeing changes in my body.
                  Oh gee, I dont know Maybe cuz I have already been at it for almost a year? Maybe because my dad had a massive stroke, kidney failure, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and died at the age of 59. Maybe it is because my mother died from cancer at the age of 44. I have already outlived her by 3 years and have seen my children raised to adulthood which was more than she got to do when my sister and I were 13 and 10 when she died, so that should be good enough for me I suppose. Maybe it is because other than the weight, I "think" I am relatively still healthy so I kind of thought maybe there was still hope for me to try to prevent some of the preventable while there was still time. Or maybe I am just tired of being fat.
                  65lbs gone and counting!!

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                  • #39
                    There is an old story about it.

                    The Philosophy professor goes on and on about how one should enjoy the journey not the destination, when someone asks from the back of the lecturing hall:

                    "Professor, have you ever happened to chase after the last bus on a dark, stormy, cold night?"
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                    • #40
                      Oh gee, I dont know Maybe cuz I have already been at it for almost a year? Maybe because my dad had a massive stroke, kidney failure, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and died at the age of 59. Maybe it is because my mother died from cancer at the age of 44. I have already outlived her by 3 years and have seen my children raised to adulthood which was more than she got to do when my sister and I were 13 and 10 when she died, so that should be good enough for me I suppose. Maybe it is because other than the weight, I "think" I am relatively still healthy so I kind of thought maybe there was still hope for me to try to prevent some of the preventable while there was still time. Or maybe I am just tired of being fat.
                      Yeah, you're dialed in. Weight is nothing compared to your overall health and nutrition. An overweight person who can jog a mile and eats liver is easily going to outlive an overweight person who can't and doesn't. No fads needed. No hacks required. You're good, you've done what you can. The rest is a roll of the dice.
                      Crohn's, doing SCD

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by WeldingHank View Post
                        people still want a "quick-fix". Though I was always under the impression primal isn't a quick fix, but rather a rather painless way to get to where you want to be. Wherever that may be, and however long it may take. Along the way, where you want to be may also change. That is why I love Primal so much.

                        Just stick to the program. Seriously.
                        I think the quick fix thing really plays in a lot. And especially when you read about people dropping a ton of weight really fast and wonder why that's not happening for you. From what I've learned now I think most of those folks were significantly overweight to begin with. If you don't have a lot to lose or are close to your goal it gets so much harder. Or it seems like it does. It's taking me some mind shifting to let go of the scale and watch the other results I'm getting.
                        Breathe. Move forward.

                        I just eat what I want...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by excursivey View Post
                          I think the quick fix thing really plays in a lot. And especially when you read about people dropping a ton of weight really fast and wonder why that's not happening for you. From what I've learned now I think most of those folks were significantly overweight to begin with. If you don't have a lot to lose or are close to your goal it gets so much harder. Or it seems like it does. It's taking me some mind shifting to let go of the scale and watch the other results I'm getting.
                          +1.

                          An extreme diet need not be faddy - so long as one embarks on it with eyes open, in the spirit of self-experimentation, having an understanding of what the parameters are about.

                          I agree totally about letting go of the scale. I found the scale useful while I was losing weight fast. Once weight loss slowed down to 1 lb a month it became counter-productive and obsession-inducing. I haven't weighed myself for about 2 months :-)
                          F 5 ft 3. HW: 196 lbs. Primal SW (May 2011): 182 lbs (42% BF)... W June '12: 160 lbs (29% BF) (UK size 12, US size 8). GW: ~24% BF - have ditched the scales til I fit into a pair of UK size 10 bootcut jeans. Currently aligning towards 'The Perfect Health Diet' having swapped some fat for potatoes.

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                          • #43
                            I think we are getting off track. The OP was referring to 'single-food' diets as the fads she was concerned with. I whole-heartedly agree that no one around here should pick a single food and plan to live on it for the rest of their life...that would be just stupid.

                            I read somewhere recently that 90+% of overweight people who lose fat on any diet fail to keep it off for more than 5 years.

                            I don't look at Primal Blueprint as a diet, it's a blueprint--or guide--to healthful living. We have to fine-tune and tweak it to our individual circumstances and genetic expression. I'm 47, so I figure I have about 50 years to try to get it right. Every now and then, I might try something weird, like potatoes for 2 weeks, or cold baths in the winter, to see if that makes a difference on my health and well-being.

                            I think one HUGE difference between us and our healthy ancestors who we are trying to emulate is variety in diet. I can't believe Ol' Grok ate more than a few different food items most of the year. He definitely didn't have access to the huge variety of food we have now, ie. bananas outside their season, eggs all year, butter ever...you get the idea. I'm 100% certain that the Grokster had to survive eating a single food item for weeks or months on end when food was scarce. Most likely thing this would have been was a starchy tuber or nuts...things that last a long time in nature and are found in large quantity.

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                            • #44
                              I just find it amazing, that we can all eat the same foods - PB foods, for the most part - obviously there are intolerances & personal preferences, etc but aside from that, we can eat PB "approved" foods but in different proportions & different macro ratios, and have different/same results towards reaching our individual goals. And that does take some time, some experimentation, to figure out what works for us and what doesnt. What makes us feel good and what doesnt.

                              I think these "fads" are just tweaking the PB to fit individual goals. Not everyone starts out as tri-athletes and not everyone starts out as super-obese.

                              So yes I could keep at it like I was, losing a couple pounds per month, or by just tweaking the ratio of the macros or experimenting with various foods, or lack thereof in the case of fasting/IF, I found that I can actually drop the fat a bit faster. Doesn't make one way right or wrong. But for me, I would rather get there sooner than later. And that certainly doesnt mean it is a "quick fix" as it is not fast by any means. But some ways do seem to be a bit faster than others.
                              Last edited by gopintos; 11-09-2012, 03:11 PM.
                              65lbs gone and counting!!

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                              • #45
                                So yes I could keep at it like I was, losing a couple pounds per month, or by just tweaking the ratio of the macros or experimenting with various foods, or lack thereof in the case of fasting/IF, I found that I can actually drop the fat a bit faster. Doesn't make one way right or wrong. But for me, I would rather get there sooner than later. And that certainly doesnt mean it is a "quick fix" as it is not fast by any means. But some ways do seem to be a bit faster than others.
                                I see what you mean. Power to you.
                                Crohn's, doing SCD

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