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  • Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
    it was the ease of prep and storage that sold me
    I did mention it to her last night. Along with some of the science/experiment results, until her eyes started to glaze over.... but something might stick.
    65lbs gone and counting!!

    Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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    • I'm reading the new Perfect Health Diet book. I know GoPintos is reading it, too. It tells a very convincing argument for adding potatoes into your diet, 2-3 medium potatoes (approx 1 pound) should be optimum. I'm planning on following the PHD very closely after New Year's.

      A couple areas where I think Paul Jaminet missed the mark, though. He includes rice as a starch to eat in large quantities, but also warns us to not eat grain at all. I think rice is better than wheat, but should not be eaten at the rate of 1 pound a day! I'm thinking like a small bit of rice every now and then, but the biggest bang comes from potato, sweet potato and possibly some of the other starchy tubers he mentions, but I have no experience with cassava, taro, or plantains.

      Another area I think he missed on is eating cold potatoes. He mentions the importance of resistant starch, says it can be profoundly increased through cooking and cooling, but never mentions eating cold potatoes (or rice for that matter). I am finding that eating a large portion of your starches cold and plain increases their filling power and is giving me some super-quality food for the good guys that live in my intestines

      Paul wrote a blog on the Potato Diet, I'll see if I can find a link...he said he likes it, but doesn't understand why we don't just follow his PHD plan...duh. It may really be that simple. I am thinking that resistant starch/starch is a missing link for many of us following the Primal Blueprint. When I look at what I've eaten the past 2 years on PB, I ate pretty much zero potatoes and rice, and rarely bananas or anything I considered 'starchy'. All my carbs were from fruit, veggies, and nuts, and whatever was in cheese.

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      • Originally posted by otzi View Post
        I'm reading the new Perfect Health Diet book.
        Have you made it to the Fasting chapter yet? More specifically where he talks about exaggerated drop in autophagy upon resumption of feeding and pathogens are free to multiply?

        Totally off topic. And I usually need interpreters for most of what I read, but I dont think I have read about that anywhere, at least not that it has sunk in. I have just been dying to hear what others think. I think Neckhammer is/has read it also.
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        65lbs gone and counting!!

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        • Originally posted by gopintos View Post
          Have you made it to the Fasting chapter yet? More specifically where he talks about exaggerated dropcin autophagy upon resumption of feeding and pathogens are free to multiply?
          I just finished the chapter on mammal diets/breast milk nutrients, maybe ch 3? It is a slow reading book, but only because it has lots of new (to me) ideas that I really want to sink in.

          I love the fact that Mark Sisson is on-board with everything in the book!

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          • Originally posted by wolfstriked
            So extreme dieting of say 3 potatoes for each of 3 meals for a week to start the fatloss.Then add in few eggs to breakfast,chicken to lunch and maybe salmon to dinner.Will weightloss slow or stop is a question I am wondering about an surprised that not one person here has thought to try this.Instead its thought of as a hack and people will drop the potato and go back to healthy eating.Some say they will add a large potato to a meal per day?But what if high carb eating is actually the right way to eat?Just wondering on this is all.....
            I had potatoes for breakfast and lunch only back in early December and lost 3.5lbs in 4 days . I don't post much on the potato threads because I'm pretty lax about following the "rules". I have 1C 2% milk in coffee while I'm getting ready in the AM and I'm not prepared to give that up, lol. I'm back to 1-2 potato meals a day after a week of holiday gluttony and weight is dropping again. However, some of that is probably just due to the fact that I'm done eating like a pig and drinking like a fish.

            I've been pretty impressed by how eating a potato with nothing but spices fills me up and blunts the desire to eat later, even when I'm starting to feel hungry. And I really like potatoes, so I prefer to think of them as real food - useful and yummy food.
            50yo, 5'3"
            SW-195
            CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
            GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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            • Originally posted by wolfstriked
              Why are the folks here so anti potatoes?You fine folks may have stumbled onto something here but it might just blow away into the diet fad books.Any thoughts on this?Remember the meat and potato diet?LOL that is one D E L I C I O U S way to eat and maybe just maybe it should be reversed into the potato and meat diet since potatoes are so satiating,energizing etc and just a little meat and fat will give great health benefits to it....???
              Nice first post. The Potato Diet has coaxed a bunch of first timers into commenting--of that I'm happy.

              I have been eating paleo/Primal Blueprint for exactly 2 years to date! During that time, I lost almost 100lbs and completely reversed the entire range of metabolic syndrome illnesses (fatty liver, pre-diabetes, high bp, high trigs, gout, skin eruptions). I went from a 250 pound weakling to a lean and fit 166 pound fitness geek.

              When I first started losing, I eliminated almost all carbs, eating at the 0 - 30g range almost the whole time. It took me 6 months to get from 185 to 175 and I stalled at 175 for almost a year.

              I stumbled across a vegetarian-esque website (Thermogenex - Fuel the Burn |) and in some random comments, the blog author mentioned eating just potatoes for a couple weeks to make your fat move. I first thought 'no way would that work for me', but several weeks later, several people had tried it and it worked like a miracle.

              I did a 2 week run back in August and went from 175 to 165 in that time. During the past 4 months, I have tried variations and found it works every time as lond as you stick to mainly potatoes, there is no weight re-bound or water weight fluctuations, just seemingly good, clean fat-loss.

              "Tatertot", the OP for this thread and I have been in close communication since he found out about the Potato Diet. He's working on a potato diet book and has a potato farm in Oregon that he hopes to rejuvenate next summer. Maybe we'll see him on Dr. Oz one day. Look at all his past threads for some good info. He said he's going to try to come back to the forums later this winter.

              Anyway, for me the Potato Diet has been a huge turning point. It made me not scared to try new things that may increase (God forbid) my weight since I now know how to get back to where I was. It also made me not fear the evil potato, and I'm planning on making it the centerpiece of my diet for the next year.

              There was a huge debate about 'Safe Starches' last year, the outcome was uncertain--some still hate carbs--but Paul Jaminet updated his Perfect Health Diet book Toward a Happy, PHD-in-the-Mainstream New Year | Perfect Health Diet to include 1 pound of the starchy food a day. A line of reasoning I'm willing to follow.

              Someone asked Paul about our Potato Diet and he said: Perfect Health Diet Q&A with Paul*Jaminet - Latest in Paleo Podcast Blog - Latest in Paleo Podcast - Paleo Diet - Paleo Fitness - Paleo News

              "the Potato Diet like all highly restrictive diets is very effective for weight loss in the short term. It is probably better than many restrictive diets because potatoes are a healthy, nourishing food, and have relatively few toxins (thus we classify them as a “safe starch” and recommend their regular consumption). They also have a lot of an especially beneficial form of fiber.
              ...So I would suggest that the best strategy is to eat a nutritionally balanced diet from the beginning – at a minimum, potatoes and milk, like the Irish, but preferably also with eggs, seafood, organ meats, and vegetables – and use intermittent fasting and conscious effort to achieve a calorie restriction similar to that achieved on the Potato Diet. This more nourishing diet is likely to be equally effective for weight loss and healthier in the long run.

              Of course, with those changes the Potato Diet becomes an implementation of the Perfect Health Diet! "

              And you know what? He's right.

              Good luck all!
              Last edited by otzi; 01-01-2013, 10:44 AM.

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              • Originally posted by otzi View Post
                I am thinking that resistant starch/starch is a missing link for many of us following the Primal Blueprint. When I look at what I've eaten the past 2 years on PB, I ate pretty much zero potatoes and rice, and rarely bananas or anything I considered 'starchy'. All my carbs were from fruit, veggies, and nuts, and whatever was in cheese.
                Not everyone bought the bullshit that potatoes and other starches are bad for you.
                The ones that did are the people who have been doing this "diet" for years, and still trying to find their way.

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                • Hi there... this is my first post to this forum (although I've been lurking for awhile). I have completed day 4 of the PPD, and, while I havent had as dramatic results as some, I have lost 2.5 pounds after being stalled for quite some time. I, like many here, have been eating paleo/PBP for a long time (strictly for about a year) and have lost 50 pounds. i've been stuck there for at least 3 months. After reading Paul Jaminet's new book (Perfect Health Diet) and googling a bit more, I stumbled upon this and decided to try it out. I'm loving the results! I'm finding it so easy. I'm never hungry. I'm pretty much living on the "hash browns" made in a never-used-brought-down-from-the-closet-panini-maker

                  As a 49 yr old female, I can tell you that getting weight off is NOT easy, lol. This is a godsend. I'm shocked at how good I feel... no hunger, lots of energy, no cravings (although, honestly, dont have many of those anyway since getting serious about ancestral eating). At any rate, I intend to go for 14 days. I started off counting calories (which were somewhere around 1000-1100) at first, then dropped to 700-900), but now just eat potatoes when I'm hungry. I generally shred about 500 grams of whatever potato i have and then eat it for a couple of sittings.

                  Anyway, thought I should post instead of lurk... hope everyone had a wonderful new year

                  Allie

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                  • I know there have been so many posts on the potato diet but just want a quick clarification,currently on holiday and gained couple(only couple I hope!) pounds whilst I'm here and interested in doing a few days ppd when return,haven't done this before but normally very low carb
                    -am I likely still to lose on this or will I have a massive gain as body not used to carbs?
                    -can I have sweet potatoes aswell
                    -no calorie target so long as don't use anything else?
                    People just use spices etc to flavour? And can I dry fry and various other ways or do they HAVE to be eaten cold?
                    I was just planning on following for a couple days or so then returning to primal, do you think this will be ok?
                    "It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all,in which case you've failed by default"

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                    • Ps what hot sauce do people use sounds like could make more flavoursome..and mustard ok?
                      "It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all,in which case you've failed by default"

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                      • Originally posted by Gibtron View Post
                        I know there have been so many posts on the potato diet but just want a quick clarification,currently on holiday and gained couple(only couple I hope!) pounds whilst I'm here and interested in doing a few days ppd when return,haven't done this before but normally very low carb
                        -am I likely still to lose on this or will I have a massive gain as body not used to carbs?
                        -can I have sweet potatoes aswell
                        -no calorie target so long as don't use anything else?
                        People just use spices etc to flavour? And can I dry fry and various other ways or do they HAVE to be eaten cold?
                        I was just planning on following for a couple days or so then returning to primal, do you think this will be ok?
                        Hardly anyone has complained of weight gain when starting, in fact, just the opposite. A few ladies that have tried this had some weight gain, but not really attributed to the potatoes, per se.

                        A good way to go about this, buy 10 pounds of really clean potatoes that are about 1/2 pound each. Plan on eating 4 of them per day and nothing else. Spices are fine, coffee, tea, water OK. Just don't use butter, oil, or eat anything else to as great an extent as you can handle. If you are really going crazy, a few nuts, small pieces of lean meat, or some chocolate maybe, but try not to eat a bunch of fruit and veggies.

                        On the first day, boil about 8 potatoes and store in the fridge. These will be your emergency munchy stash for if you get really hungry and just have to eat something. You can fix the potatoes any way you like, baked, fried, boiled, cold, raw, whatever. Sweet potatoes aren't the best for this, but one or two in the week is OK for a little variety. I'd stay away from rice, though.

                        Originally posted by Gibtron View Post
                        Ps what hot sauce do people use sounds like could make more flavoursome..and mustard ok?
                        Ketchup, mustard, vinegar, salt and pepper. Hot sauce fine, too. Soy sauce OK.

                        Good luck! Let us know how it goes. 10 pounds should last you about 5 days. If you are doing great, buy more or take a day or two break if you want to extend.

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                        • Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
                          I had potatoes for breakfast and lunch only back in early December and lost 3.5lbs in 4 days . I don't post much on the potato threads because I'm pretty lax about following the "rules". I have 1C 2% milk in coffee while I'm getting ready in the AM and I'm not prepared to give that up, lol. I'm back to 1-2 potato meals a day after a week of holiday gluttony and weight is dropping again. However, some of that is probably just due to the fact that I'm done eating like a pig and drinking like a fish.

                          I've been pretty impressed by how eating a potato with nothing but spices fills me up and blunts the desire to eat later, even when I'm starting to feel hungry. And I really like potatoes, so I prefer to think of them as real food - useful and yummy food.
                          When you ate potatoes only for breakfast and lunch did you eat a regular primal dinner or did you fast that meal?

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                          • Has anyone with IR/diabetes done this? Seems so backwards for weight loss.

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                            • But why would you do it? for 10lbs? gone quickly? I'm new, but after reading and researching, primal goes beyond materialistic, which is where i usually put those get rid of 10lbs quick thingies. Why would you just eat potatoes for 2 weeks just to lose 10lbs? I mean hey if you want go ahead, I'm just trying to understand the reasoning for it.

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                              • Hey Otzi,
                                Thankyou SO much for ur reply,I'd been reading loads on it and really want to try just wanted to make sure on everything!
                                I enjoyed reading your posts and this has been my first post on the forum,been primal now for 7months and now the heads getting round it all-no low fat junk etc I'm really enjoying it!! Get back from hols next week then going to crack onto the PPD straight away but got a social event(what am I on about-I mean a blooming good few drinks!) on the Saturday night do u think this will mess it up?
                                So if I run through 10lbs worth and see how I get on, do u tend to do the ppd every so often?
                                Feeling pretty stressed at mo being away and am convinced the weight is piling on
                                Any advice welcomed!
                                Cheers guys!!
                                "It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all,in which case you've failed by default"

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