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  • Questions about weight gain, and do I have to stuff myself?

    I should gain about 5 lbs.
    If I eat until full at every meal, I maintain the same weight. I don't want to do protein shakes or powders or pills. If I want to gain some weight, do I have to stuff myself and eat until bloated? It seems like that's what I have to do to gain weight. Any experience here? Is it unhealthy to stuff myself 4 times a day if it helps me gain? I'm a little underweight, not just trying to be muscley.

    Also is a heavy reliance on cheese and unsweetened chocolate ok to gain, or am I better off health wise overeating meat and vegetables and potatoes?

    I'm not in a strong state right now, I try to crank out a couple pushups in the morning sometimes, and I walk about 2 miles a day, that's all for exercise.
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    Age? Sex? Height? What's an average day of food look like for you?
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    • #3
      Well, I'm 16 and female. 5 feet tall exactly. The last few days I upped my calorie intake about 500 calories. A sample/typical day of recent:

      2 small apples, 8 oz yogurt (full fat)
      1 cup potato leek soup, 7 or 8 oz turkey breast w/ skin, 1.5 cups sweet potato plantain soup (fancy, I know)
      1 cup raw carrots
      1 oz of cheese
      2 tablespoons butter (grass fed)
      Half an acorn squash, a huge yam, 2 cups cauliflower, mushrooms in more butter
      4 or 5 oz beef or chicken

      Is adding in more butter a good or bad idea?
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      • #4
        Milk is easy and has protein. Wouldn't you like some more cheese? Or some eggs?
        well then

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        • #5
          Originally posted by campanella View Post
          am I better off health wise overeating meat and vegetables and potatoes?
          It's really really hard to overeat on meat and vegetables. I would go for eating pure fat (drinking cream, eating butter, fatty porterhouse steak etc) to increase your calorific intake.

          But really, is there a need to do this? This post reads identically to me as the ones from people who need to 'lose the last 5 pounds'. If your body is happy at it's current set point and you are healthy, why not be happy with how you are?
          Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

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          5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
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          • #6
            OR start lifting, you'll most likely get hungier and eat more and gain muscle weight
            well then

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            • #7
              Yes, eat past fullness. I get full from a few bites so I've taught myself to overeat. It worked when I was a skinny teen. Eat butter and avocados and energy-dense foods. How much do you weigh?
              F 28/5'4/100 lbs

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              • #8
                I weigh about 75 lbs right now. I said I should gain 5 lbs, but I'd be fine with 10. I'm just trying to do baby steps. It's not as severe as it may sound because genetically I am small boned, lightweight, my mom is 90 something lbs at 5 ft and doctors agree she is perfectly healthy.
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                • #9
                  I would also agree, lift weights. That will make you hungrier and help you build muscle.

                  I personally am not a huge fan of telling someone to overly stuff themselves at every meal, no matter what size they are. I mean, if you're full, you're full. I don't think it's healthy to constantly force yourself to overeat. Just eat foods that are more calorie dense, lots of fat and lots of meat.

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                  • #10
                    You eat about as much as I do to maintain - and I'm fairly heavy at 145 lbs. You'll have to up your calories further; like others suggested, drinking more calories and consuming more fat will help.

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                    • #11
                      Also, my feeling is that since you don't eat a great volume of food then you really need to make every bite count. I hope you have already forsaken sugar and processed products, but if not please do, you cannot afford to be eating empty calories.

                      Then choose the foods with the most to offer - veges with the most colour, baked in dripping or mashed with butter or dolloped with sour cream; meat that is most tender and easiest to eat, and/or with the tasty crispy skin and fat; salads full of olives, feta, and seeds, and drizzled with olive oil. Drink whole milk instead of water, add cream to your coffee, snack on cheese and nuts instead of fruit etc. Basically try to get as much nutrition from every mouthful as possible.

                      I also wonder if perhaps you don't really enjoy eating much. Perhaps some experimentation with seasonings - herbs, spices, flavourings etc would help stimulate your appetite. Eat first thing in the morning and again last thing at night, this way you may fit in one extra meal.
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                      • #12
                        Thank you very much, some helpful ideas.

                        There's an adjustment phase here, and I probably will get to the point where I need to cut down how much I'm eating by a lot to stop gaining more than I want. However, right now I feel like I have energy I haven't had in months, after having gotten over a bout of pseudo-anorexia. It's only been a few days but I feel like when I eat more like this I have better cold tolerance and just so much more physical energy. I went for a quick run today just for the love of it because it felt so wonderful to have energy again.
                        If you have a few minutes- please take a look at my story, in my journal
                        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread87400.html
                        I do warn you, I am a copious writer.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by campanella View Post
                          Well, I'm 16 and female. 5 feet tall exactly. The last few days I upped my calorie intake about 500 calories. A sample/typical day of recent:

                          2 small apples, 8 oz yogurt (full fat)
                          1 cup potato leek soup, 7 or 8 oz turkey breast w/ skin, 1.5 cups sweet potato plantain soup (fancy, I know)
                          1 cup raw carrots
                          1 oz of cheese
                          2 tablespoons butter (grass fed)
                          Half an acorn squash, a huge yam, 2 cups cauliflower, mushrooms in more butter
                          4 or 5 oz beef or chicken

                          Is adding in more butter a good or bad idea?
                          Sorry I didn't see this sooner. Do you prepare your own meals? This is good wholesome food, but you could make it more so.

                          Eg starting the day with two apples sounds like hard work. What about two eggs instead - similar calorie wise but WAY easier to eat and digest. Scrambled, omelette, boiled - up to you. Or make a primal pancake with egg and banana and cinnamon, top with yoghurt or cream. Very yummy and satisfying.

                          Same with the carrots. One cup of raw carrots is hard going and 1oz of cheese is not much. Perhaps make a salad with half a cup of grated carrot and half a cup of grated cheese. Sprinkle with sunflower seeds and bacon bits, season with salt and pepper and drizzle with coconut cream. Or eat cooked carrots drizzled with butter with some cheese slices rolled into a slice of ham or salami.

                          2 cups of cauliflower is also a lot for one person to get through at a time. Maybe you could turn it into a frittata with some eggs and cheese, to eat alongside dinner and save a slice for breakfast or a snack tomorrow.

                          Your squash and yam can be roasted in dripping - or you can precook them, mash with salt and spices, stir in a beaten egg and some sour cream (or coconut cream or cream or yoghurt - just use what is to hand to make this different every time) top with cheese and/or ground nuts and bake till heated through. Whatever is leftover can be tomorrow's breakfast or lunch with some ham for example.

                          I don't know how your beef or chicken is served, if you season and leave it in a slow cooker all day it will be so tender that eating it becomes a breeze, but if you dry it out in the oven or pan, not so appetising.

                          Best wishes for your health and wellbeing. A.
                          Last edited by Annieh; 11-07-2012, 05:44 PM.
                          Annie Ups the Ante
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                          • #14
                            Wow. Thank you Annieh, I appreciate your response. The advice is valued, and thanks for the well wishes!
                            If you have a few minutes- please take a look at my story, in my journal
                            http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread87400.html
                            I do warn you, I am a copious writer.

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                            • #15
                              Lift weights, eat dense sources of calories, sleep, don't do much else. I guarantee you'll gain weight. I gained 20 lbs of muscle mass without using any supplements, liquids, or powders. I know operate a website dedicated to helping others do the same. Check it out below.

                              As far as weight gain, you can gain weight by simply eating enough, but it won't be the kind of weight you want unless you're lifting weights or stimulating your muscles effectively. So find a quality training program you enjoy and get some performance goals. Goals like "gain 5 pounds" suck. Following performance is the path to ideal body composition.
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