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  • Why are red kidneys beans the enemy in the primal diet?

    In the winter I make a lot of vegetarian soups and they load with red kidney beans. Also when I training for marathon/ultra-marathon the red kidney bean is my staple source of energy and protein. Especially when I get sick of eating dead animal carcass.

    Mark doesn't go into detail in his book why the red kidney bean is an evil source of food? I have been eating them for 10 years without any issues.

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    Anything you have to soak for 12 hours and then boil the heck out of to remove enough toxins to make them eddible is a risk to eat as there are inevitably toxins left. No-one is gonna come round your house telling you you arn't in the paleo clubanymore and take yor membership card if you wanna eat then, just be aware they are not optimal and make you fart
    You know all those pictures of Adam and Eve where they have belly button? Think about it..................... take as long as you need........................

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    • #3
      Yeah, kidney beans are one of the most toxic beans--they have a lectin called phytohaemagglutinin, which can poison you if they're not properly soaked and cooked long enough. The FDA even has a page on kidney bean poisoning. BBB - Phytohaemagglutinin

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      • #4
        If you don't feel bad, eat all the beans you want.

        The bean hate is mostly due to what is in beans, rather than the effect beans have on people . IF beans effect you negatively, obviously don't eat them. But otherwise, I don't care what anyone says, logic says beans are fine.

        From what I have found, eating beans seems to consistently correlate with good health. In Loma Linda, eating MORE beans consistently correlated with good outcomes. Now, these are obviously correlations, but given enough positive correlations, I'd rather go with that then some fear mongers who are worried about what is in beans.

        An example of "bad stuff in good things" would be fruit. Fruit has fructose, which is bad in general. BUT, when eaten in fruit, is good overall. My guess is that it's the same with beans. The toxins in beans may be bad, but when eaten as a WHOLE FOOD, it doesn't seem to be bad in real life.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by meeshar View Post
          Yeah, kidney beans are one of the most toxic beans--they have a lectin called phytohaemagglutinin, which can poison you if they're not properly soaked and cooked long enough. The FDA even has a page on kidney bean poisoning. BBB - Phytohaemagglutinin
          Virtually everything can make you sick if prepared incorrectly. Go eat some raw pork, let's see how that works out for ya.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bob loblaw View Post
            Virtually everything can make you sick if prepared incorrectly. Go eat some raw pork, let's see how that works out for ya.
            But that's not the pork itself, it's the potential that it's contaminated with a parasite. Pork itself doesn't have anything poisonous in it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by EyeOfRound View Post
              But that's not the pork itself, it's the potential that it's contaminated with a parasite. Pork itself doesn't have anything poisonous in it.
              Fine. Nuts are often poisonous without proper preparation. So nuts are bad. (Even though most nuts consistently correlate with very good health.)

              Once again, if beans give you ill effects, by all means don't eat them. But not eating a whole food because of supposed "toxins", with no actual scientific data or even correlative data showing it's bad for you, seems awfully silly to me. The data on beans seems overwhelmingly positive, please link me otherwise.

              Note: I am not talking about gmo-soybeans or any gmo beans.

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              • #8
                See meeshar's FDA link, above.

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                • #9
                  Tim Ferris of the 4 hour body, swears by eating beans.

                  go figure?
                  55 yr old male


                  07/01/2013

                  Weight; 199
                  Chest; 41.5
                  Waist; 42
                  Hips; 40
                  Thigh; 22.5
                  Calf; 15
                  Bicep: 13
                  Forearm; 11.5
                  Neck; 17

                  07/20/2013

                  Weight; 200
                  Chest; 42
                  Waist; 42.5
                  Hips; 39
                  Thigh; 23
                  Calf; 15
                  Bicep: 13
                  Forearm; 11.5
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                  • #10
                    Why are red kidneys beans the enemy in the primal diet?

                    Maybe because they are just plain boring. Try this experiment: cook some kidney beans w/o seasoning and taste them, now cook a ribeye w/o seasoning which is better?
                    Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                    • #11
                      YOUR STILL HERE?

                      Have you read the primal blueprint? Mark lays out WHY you shouldn't eat legumes...but you STILL ask these questions.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WeldingHank View Post
                        YOUR STILL HERE?

                        Have you read the primal blueprint? Mark lays out WHY you shouldn't eat legumes...but you STILL ask these questions.
                        Do you really just want a forum of people who don't question anything?

                        I'd much rather have a forum where people question EVERYTHING. It keeps on our toes and our minds open. Yes, it's annoying at times, but that's okay. It's better than only being around information that feeds my current bias, which could lead me to missing valuable information.

                        I love paleo, but I don't think it's perfect. Also, I won't let my love of the paleo concept to block out new information that could tweak or alter my diet and lifestyle.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                          Why are red kidneys beans the enemy in the primal diet?

                          Maybe because they are just plain boring. Try this experiment: cook some kidney beans w/o seasoning and taste them, now cook a ribeye w/o seasoning which is better?
                          Do you not season your ribeye? I season ribeyes, beans, veggies, potatoes...so who cares what they taste like WITHOUT seasoning? It's a moot point unless you have something against salt and pepper.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Barefoot Gentile View Post
                            In the winter I make a lot of vegetarian soups and they load with red kidney beans. Also when I training for marathon/ultra-marathon the red kidney bean is my staple source of energy and protein. Especially when I get sick of eating dead animal carcass.
                            Mark doesn't go into detail in his book why the red kidney bean is an evil source of food? I have been eating them for 10 years without any issues.
                            How long did it take you to come up with that? You need a new name~ like *hypocritical vegetarian*

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                            • #15
                              Mostly lectins and stuff. I use the theory that they're hard to digest and why make one's body work harder than it needs to? Don't believe me on the hard to digest? Think about how corn and kidney beans come out the other end-- still in tact. There's a reason they're called "corn poops". Sorry if that's TMI. Jus'sayin
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