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    Hi everyone ...

    Been a while, must admit I fell off the wagon a few months back. Met a lovely lady, many dates and evenings out ... and well ... I ate very non-primal for a while.

    However recently my partner (who while absolutely gorgeous, is carrying some extra weight and is fairly partial to many of the SAD foods, especially sugar ) became interested in Primal living when I expressed a desire to get back to it, recalling how great I felt when I was fully primal. So I encouraged her to read the Primal Blueprint, which she has done and she thought it made tons of sense.

    So we have both commenced back on the lifestyle, and I'm enjoying being back. We've made quite a few primal meals off this website and others.

    Two weeks in though, things are getting tough for her. While dinners are fine, she is really struggling to find anything to eat for breakfast and lunch. She is hungry most of the time, and feeling very depressed. I'm doing all I can to support her, and she is trying very hard, but I can see how much of a struggle it is for her, and I obviously am concerned about the long term sustainability of it if it is making her so unhappy.

    Would love to hear thoughts and recommendations on what else I can do to help, and what else we can look at foodwise ... I suspect having cut out the carbs her fat intake isn't high enough. Unfortunately while I can get away with eating a few big meals a day and be happy, she only eats relatively small portion sizes, but then is hungry soon thereafter.

    Any advice or thoughts greatly received!
    Buzz71
    Come visit my blog about life, my journey and seizing the day: www.thecarpediem.net
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  • #2
    Fat and protein are very satiating. When I eat breakfast, I have either eggs (typically scrambled in butter with seasoned hamburger crumbles if I'm at home, or an omelet if I'm on the road) or deli-sliced meat and cheese (no bread, but some veggies folded in if convenient). I just roll that up.

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    • #3
      Oh - and welcome back!

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      • #4
        Thanks Anlee

        She is a bit of a slow starter in the morning so cooked breakfasts are hard. Very much need something quick to go, I've tried introducing her to my primal smoothie ... 2 ice cubes, can of coconut milk, handful mixed berries, banana, half an avocado, dash vanilla, and generous serve of cinnamon, but all she can taste is the coconut milk which she doesn't like.
        Buzz71
        Come visit my blog about life, my journey and seizing the day: www.thecarpediem.net
        Read my Journal of Awesomeness!
        Follow me on Twitter: @Buzz_71 and @the_CarpeDiem
        My Primal slow movement challenge: 208.29km of 1000km completed in 2012!

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        • #5
          You can also just make massive amounts of breakfast food and heat up the leftovers. I also hate cooking in the morning, because I'm the type to schedule my morning down to the minute to get as much sleep as possible (I seriously set my alarm for something like 5:47 with the goal to get out the door at 6:03). I personally like to make a massive omelet on Sunday night and then reheat the leftovers in the microwave on weekday mornings while I'm getting dressed. I made an awesome one the other day - artichokes, chicken apple sausage, tomatoes, mushrooms, onions, spinach, and cheese. Today I just had a bunch of cheese curds out of the bag as I drove to work, haha.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Buzz71 View Post
            Thanks Anlee

            She is a bit of a slow starter in the morning so cooked breakfasts are hard. Very much need something quick to go, I've tried introducing her to my primal smoothie ... 2 ice cubes, can of coconut milk, handful mixed berries, banana, half an avocado, dash vanilla, and generous serve of cinnamon, but all she can taste is the coconut milk which she doesn't like.
            There is a great recipe for pumpkin muffins in the book Practical Paleo. I like to make a bunch on Sunday then eat throughout the week. And there's a recipe for cranberry sauce to put on top too!

            If you make bacon on Sunday, you can easily nuke that for a quick break-fast addon.

            Or pre-make pumpkin or banana pancakes and zap those too.

            Don't forget, leftovers are great for breakfast!
            Started eating Primal in October 2011.
            Started lifting heavy things on October 26, 2012.
            Started sugar detox: November 12, 2012
            [may or may not have been purposely before Thanksgiving]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Buzz71 View Post
              Thanks Anlee

              She is a bit of a slow starter in the morning so cooked breakfasts are hard. Very much need something quick to go, I've tried introducing her to my primal smoothie ... 2 ice cubes, can of coconut milk, handful mixed berries, banana, half an avocado, dash vanilla, and generous serve of cinnamon, but all she can taste is the coconut milk which she doesn't like.
              Oh and how could I forget, I did this just today - premake some sweet potatoes for breakfast too. I like to throw a little cajun seasoning after I heat them up. I personally prefer them with eggs and the pre-made bacon I mentioned, but they're good on their own too.

              And fruit is always a possibility. Bananas, apples, grapes....
              Started eating Primal in October 2011.
              Started lifting heavy things on October 26, 2012.
              Started sugar detox: November 12, 2012
              [may or may not have been purposely before Thanksgiving]

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              • #8
                Also, if she doesn't like coconut milk, try almond milk.

                I don't like the texture of either (too watery) so I add some Kefir to make it thicker.
                Started eating Primal in October 2011.
                Started lifting heavy things on October 26, 2012.
                Started sugar detox: November 12, 2012
                [may or may not have been purposely before Thanksgiving]

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                • #9
                  Or greek yoghurt, or real cream - or a mixture.
                  Annie Ups the Ante
                  http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                  • #10
                    She could also add extra butter or cream or bacon to her smaller meals, it will seem unnatural at first but should help them last a bit longer. However it might hamper her trying to lose weight.

                    If she's like me, then she needs enough protein at each meal, some good non starchy veges and a wee bit of fat in the form of nuts, olives avocado etc to kickstart the fat burning.
                    Annie Ups the Ante
                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                    • #11
                      I found that the secret to making breakfast work without being all hungry during the day is to have enough fat in the meal.

                      A microwaved egg, mixed with cream and with a lump of butter, is some low hanging fruit. As it were.
                      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                      Griff's cholesterol primer
                      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                      bloodorchid is always right

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the ideas people, keep them rolling!

                        On the fruit topic, I am always a little wary, aren't they a little high sugar? Obviously not processed, but still ...

                        Pumpkin muffins sound interesting must check those out.

                        On the more general topic, how about dealing with the withdrawals and cravings for SAD type foods, and the impact this has on mood. Personally I didn't find it too difficult to give all the bad stuff up but I can see how giving up all the things that were favourites, even though we all know they are bad, is very difficult for some. Any experiences with this would be greatly appreciated too.
                        Buzz71
                        Come visit my blog about life, my journey and seizing the day: www.thecarpediem.net
                        Read my Journal of Awesomeness!
                        Follow me on Twitter: @Buzz_71 and @the_CarpeDiem
                        My Primal slow movement challenge: 208.29km of 1000km completed in 2012!

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                        • #13
                          Hmm, that's the addictive nature of these products (I don't think of them as food any more). The trouble is, that by succumbing to the desire for sugar or whatever, it only prolongs the process. Going cold turkey has to be the quickest way to get through the cravings, and then once you start eating fully primal you can learn to like new and even better treats - dark chocolate, real icecream to name a couple.

                          Meanwhile, maybe try reaching for a protein/fat snack such as salami, nuts, or cheese and see if that can stave off the hunger pangs for a bit. The key is to have something ready to grab when the urge strikes. I've also found that it's hard to resist snacking if you spend all day at home with the kitchen just too handy, maybe temporarily finding places to go and things to do to keep away from the fridge?

                          Overall, I have found that my moods have balanced out A LOT with this way of eating - I don't get the sugar shakes any more, for example. I hope that she will have the courage to persevere through this stage (which really needn't last long) to reap the benefits of greater health, energy, even moods, and fat loss.

                          And yes, I would be wary of fruit at this stage of the game, liable to initiate sugar cravings. Berries and cream are good though.

                          I really like cooking now, and preparing my delicious primal foods, but at first it all seemed like a lot of hassle. Maybe thinking about breakfast the night before, even dishing a nice portion of leftovers onto a plate ready for microwaving, will make it seem more appealing in the morning.
                          Annie Ups the Ante
                          http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread117711.html

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                          • #14
                            Another thing which helps with the transition is broth - real bone broth is best, but even commercial broth (Wyler's, e.g.) will help. It helps with mineral balance, which changes dramatically when you remove the grains (and even more if you remove all starches, which is not required under primal, but sure helps most folks with weight loss).

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                            • #15
                              Is she going real low carb? I've found I can only sustain VLC for a week or so and then get severely depressed. If I have 1/2c fruit with breakfast, come cheese with lunch, and potato for dinner my mood stays much better and I'm still losing weight. If I start to get depressed we run make sure to include potatoes into dinner again.

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