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  • #16
    In Mark's own words: (from the PB Fitness free download)

    The Primal Blueprint Fitness strategy will help
    you build or maintain lean muscle mass, reduce
    your body fat, increase your energy, improve your
    strength, agility and power-to-weight ratio, reduce
    your risk of getting injured, improve insulin sensitivity,
    boost immune function and increase organ
    reserve. A major side effect, of course, is that you’ll
    look good naked (we affectionately call it “LGN”)!
    Not like a greased up, muscle-bound cover boy or
    girl...more like a Calvin Klein underwear model,
    SI Swimsuit model, Olympic Gymnast, or Linda
    Hamilton in Terminator 2: well-muscled and proportioned,
    with minimal body fat. No matter what
    your family history, you’ll arrive naturally at the
    optimum expression of your own unique genetic
    makeup. Oh sure, you may vary a few percentage
    points in body fat from those with world-class athlete
    genetic attributes, but you’ll be able to maintain
    your fitness and your new body easily on very
    little work, for the rest of your life.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by otzi View Post
      I can almost guarantee you will never look like Mark Sisson. He has been into high endurance sports, body building, whatever, his whole life. He is seeing his genetic potential, same as you want to see, but sadly we all don't have that genetic potential to look like Mark Sisson. I'd be willing to bet he's never had a time when he didn't have visible abs.

      I think for guys like you and me, the best we can hope for is to get rid of visceral fat, get off all meds, and then hit a healthy weight and stay there.

      I'd say the only way it would be possible for a formerly chunky middle-aged man to end up like Mark Sisson would be with relentless training and possibly testosterone/steroid/hgh doping. Without that, you'd have to find a doctor who would test you and get your testosterone, thyroid, and cortisol into the upper 90% of ref range and then live in a gym for a couple years.
      I think what's possible has way more to do with genetic potential than life history. My DH (not an athlete, 5'11" and 170lbs) has recently lost 40 lbs, has a rather wimpy weight lifting program and relies too much on cardio. Still, he looks just a decent hard lifting program away from an impressive 6 pack and a Sisson-type body. It's just the shape of his skeleton and the way his muscles are laid on it. He would actually prefer to have a beefier body type, but isn't that always the way?
      50yo, 5'3"
      SW-195
      CW-125, part calorie counting, part transition to primal
      GW- Goals are no longer weight-related

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      • #18
        Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
        I think what's possible has way more to do with genetic potential than life history. My DH (not an athlete, 5'11" and 170lbs) has recently lost 40 lbs, has a rather wimpy weight lifting program and relies too much on cardio. Still, he looks just a decent hard lifting program away from an impressive 6 pack and a Sisson-type body. It's just the shape of his skeleton and the way his muscles are laid on it. He would actually prefer to have a beefier body type, but isn't that always the way?
        I think this is even clearer when you look at someone who has been a 'stringbean' their whole life, then got skinny-fat laster in life. These guys will never, ever look like Mark Sisson. I think everyone on the planet has a potential to become lean and somewhat muscular, not everyone is going to end up like Mark Sisson.

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        • #19
          I am on the Autistic spectrum for those of you that haven't seen my previous posts mentioning that. One of the curses of being Autistic is that we tend to be diagnosed with a host of other, related symptoms (ADHD anyone)?

          One of the most unknown, but common diagnosis's which many Autistic individuals receive is the diagnoses of "clinically low muscle tone." This diagnoses not only predisposes us on the spectrum to lower levels of muscle mass, but also predisposes us to difficulty in building mass. I have tried and tried again to put on decent amounts of muscle mass but even "newbie gains" are tough for me, a struggle. Now, Autism is largely caused by genetic factors, as are the majority of the symptoms, so I am a big believer in living up to your genetic potential.

          You should strive to have the best body and the best mind that your genes will allow you to have. But not all of us can have huge muscles with no body fat. I am extremely lean thanks to the primal blueprint, have been doing primal blueprint fitness regularly, I was working out at the gym for quite some time, and I still didn't see any noticeable gains. For me, I take solace in the fact that I am lean, I am healthy, my inflammation levels have gone down, I am rarely sick anymore, and I seem to have corrected the majority of my hormonal imbalances since I went off the CW way of eating.

          Primal has been a huge boon to me overall, but the muscle gains? Not so much. To each their own, but be proud of what you are, and strive live up to your genetic potential.
          "The cling and a clang is the metal in my head when I walk. I hear a sort of, this tinging noise - cling clang. The cling clang. So many things happen while walking. The metal in my head clangs and clings as I walk - freaks my balance out. So the natural thought is just clogged up. Totally clogged up. So we need to unplug these dams, and make the the natural flow... It sort of freaks me out. We need to unplug the dams. You cannot stop the natural flow of thought with a cling and a clang..."

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          • #20
            Thanks for sharing! I've been wondering what my ballpark bodyfat is. I'd say I'm around 25
            Started eating Primal in October 2011.
            Started lifting heavy things on October 26, 2012.
            Started sugar detox: November 12, 2012
            [may or may not have been purposely before Thanksgiving]

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            • #21
              [QUOTE=otzi;991101]I can almost guarantee you will never look like Mark Sisson.

              QUOTE]

              Thank you so much! I've rodeo'd, shown horses, trained thoroughbred horses all my life, played serious sports, and now play Poker fulltime, so I'm a little competitive.

              You just threw down a challenge that I think will motivate me....thanks again!
              55 yr old male


              07/01/2013

              Weight; 199
              Chest; 41.5
              Waist; 42
              Hips; 40
              Thigh; 22.5
              Calf; 15
              Bicep: 13
              Forearm; 11.5
              Neck; 17

              07/20/2013

              Weight; 200
              Chest; 42
              Waist; 42.5
              Hips; 39
              Thigh; 23
              Calf; 15
              Bicep: 13
              Forearm; 11.5
              Neck; 16

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              • #22
                [QUOTE=ez2cy;991369]
                Originally posted by otzi View Post
                I can almost guarantee you will never look like Mark Sisson.

                QUOTE]

                Thank you so much! I've rodeo'd, shown horses, trained thoroughbred horses all my life, played serious sports, and now play Poker fulltime, so I'm a little competitive.

                You just threw down a challenge that I think will motivate me....thanks again!
                I wish you luck, sir!

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                • #23
                  I am on the Autistic spectrum for those of you that haven't seen my previous posts mentioning that. One of the curses of being Autistic is that we tend to be diagnosed with a host of other, related symptoms (ADHD anyone)?

                  One of the most unknown, but common diagnosis's which many Autistic individuals receive is the diagnoses of "clinically low muscle tone." This diagnoses not only predisposes us on the spectrum to lower levels of muscle mass, but also predisposes us to difficulty in building mass. I have tried and tried again to put on decent amounts of muscle mass but even "newbie gains" are tough for me, a struggle. Now, Autism is largely caused by genetic factors, as are the majority of the symptoms, so I am a big believer in living up to your genetic potential.

                  You should strive to have the best body and the best mind that your genes will allow you to have. But not all of us can have huge muscles with no body fat. I am extremely lean thanks to the primal blueprint, have been doing primal blueprint fitness regularly, I was working out at the gym for quite some time, and I still didn't see any noticeable gains. For me, I take solace in the fact that I am lean, I am healthy, my inflammation levels have gone down, I am rarely sick anymore, and I seem to have corrected the majority of my hormonal imbalances since I went off the CW way of eating.

                  Primal has been a huge boon to me overall, but the muscle gains? Not so much. To each their own, but be proud of what you are, and strive live up to your genetic potential.
                  Agreed! I will never squat 300 pounds thanks to my crampy legs, and that's just what it is. I am lucky to have wide shoulders and thick bones, Primal has left me looking pretty good. But everybody has some sort of achilles heel, physical or mental or otherwise. All we can do is the best we can do, and roll into the dirt when death finally comes knocking - be it tomorrow or at age 100!
                  Crohn's, doing SCD

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                  • #24
                    I think it's also a matter of Real Life and time. I have a 60-hour-a-week job, as I'm sure many others do (or jobs+school). I'm married with a spouse I like to do things with. I don't have kids at home any more, but a lot of us here do.

                    I LHT about 3 hours a week, Crossfit 2 or 3 times a week, and hike/mountain bike/ski/snowshoe/snowboard (seasonal!) another 6-8 hours a week. Sure, I could spend more time moving slowly. And I probably could tighten up my nutrition a little. But at a certain point I look at returns for effort. For me, it's not worth the extra effort to get down to 15% bodyfat. I like where I am, I enjoy what I do, and I have a great family life. I don't need anything else!

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                    • #25
                      I think you hit the nail on the head Goldie. Each of us have different goals etc in life. Not just in ourselves but what we own etc. Some want a huge home some just want a nice space to live in. Some want a Porche, some just want a way to get to work.

                      To me, I guess I'm a little vain, would like to be back to where I was pre shoulder replacement at the least. If I could push for more, I will, as I just love the challenge but on the other hand, get extremely discouraged when I don't get what I'm working for..>LOL
                      55 yr old male


                      07/01/2013

                      Weight; 199
                      Chest; 41.5
                      Waist; 42
                      Hips; 40
                      Thigh; 22.5
                      Calf; 15
                      Bicep: 13
                      Forearm; 11.5
                      Neck; 17

                      07/20/2013

                      Weight; 200
                      Chest; 42
                      Waist; 42.5
                      Hips; 39
                      Thigh; 23
                      Calf; 15
                      Bicep: 13
                      Forearm; 11.5
                      Neck; 16

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