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  • #16
    Originally posted by ez2cy View Post
    I digress.

    The "first thing " I read was not the potato thread. I was reading for about a week on here, the getting started, the blueprint etc. I just thought I'd try it out and see what happened.

    I'm just really frustrated, knowing I'm soaking in ice baths 2x a week and looking like an idiot,lol. Others swearing it works and I get nothing. Same with all the other stuff.

    I know I don't really need a diet. I need to eat better. My daughter is a holistic Nutrianist for god's sake....LOL I just really want to get to where I should be (fast as I can) and eat healthy for the what's left of my life. And no, I didn't listen too much to my daughter in the past. At the time it seemed a little "twighlight Zone" to me. I'm learning...but slowly
    Like everyone is saying, just relax and purchase the book. Sit down, read it over a couple of days. It will enlighten you, sir.
    this great blue world of ours seems a house of leaves, moments before the wind

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    • #17
      If you haven't gotten this message yet - get Mark's book The Primal Blueprint. Get off the internet, read it, all of it, follow it. Come back in 90 days if you feel like chatting.
      If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/ and this (personal fave): http://www.archevore.com/get-started/

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      • #18
        Forget all that Primal Blueprint crap. Just eat potatoes and paint your gonads with iodine--you will lose weight magically! Send me some money and it will happen even faster!

        Just kidding. You are on the right track. Mark's Primal Blueprint and the free stuff on this website are all you need. Go here: Welcome to Mark’s Daily Apple | Mark's Daily Apple and click every link. Buy a book or two, download all the free e-books and spend a couple weeks reading his 'Definitive Guides" to stuff.

        Stay off the forums for the first 6 months...you can do this on your own. When you have gotten considerably healthier, come back here and tell us how you did and let us know if you have any questions.

        The Potato Diet is more of a parlour trick than a healthful pursuit. It will shred a few pounds of fat in short order, but you need to get all your ducks in line before doing anything like that.

        Here is my one-liner on how to find eternal health and get to the weight you were meant to be: Eat real foods, get good sleep, exercise daily, and be mindful of the seasons in all you do.

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        • #19
          Read the book and remember......weight loss is about less energy in then energy out. Primal makes it a lot easier and is much healthier then other energy deficit diets.

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          • #20
            You have to be patient. It's tough, but it's true. You didn't gain the weight overnight, you won't lose it magically overnight. Your body may need time to heal various issues as you proceed on your weight loss journey, creating plateaus in pounds lost. Use a tape measure or clothing fit to determine your progress as well.

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            • #21
              I'm with the others. It really is a worthwhile book. If you like what you've read, buy his cookbook or 30 minute meal book, write a list of ingredients and do some groceries. Purge your house of everything not primal. Best way to start. Maybe make up a few weekly meal plans with grocery lists to make life easier for the transition on a day when you haven't got too much going on, and you're feeling motivated.

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              • #22
                Stick to the basics and ignore any internet theories until you find what works for you, because it really is an individual thing. Hell, my version of the diet works for me, but other people would probably do piss poor on it, because it's adapted for me and my life. Another thing, if it seems gimmicky, then stay away until you've spent more time learning. I swear there are people out there that would wear a top hat and soak themselves in their own urine if they thought it imparted some sort of weight loss advantage.
                Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own experience.

                In the mind of the beginner, there are many possibilities; in the mind of the expert, there are few.


                I've shaken hands with a raccoon and lived to tell the tale

                SW: 220- 225 pounds at the beginning of January
                CW: 180 pounds

                Goals for 2012: Lose a bit more fat and start a serious muscle and strength routine

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                • #23
                  First of all, it sounds like your wife is sabotaging your efforts. She's probably not even doing it consciously, but can you ask her to not bake, or to maybe start creating some paleo friendly treats instead? It's very hard to be around junk food when you're trying to kick the habit.

                  Second, yes, you should read the book, but I haven't found it to be the complete success to my weight loss. I make it a rule to not 100% follow the advice of someone who is making a great deal of money off of their enterprise UNLESS it works for my body. It's my theory that most start out with very good intentions, but by the time they are making a lot of money, I feel that they won't be in an objective enough state to publicly change their opinions. It's a great idea to read what everyone has to say, but then really listen to your body and be honest with yourself and you will be able to figure out what works for you.

                  For me, I ate the standard american diet until I was in my early 20's and extremely obese. I then switched to vegetarian, believing that was healthier. That didn't result in much weight loss, so I switched to vegan and stayed that way for 13 years. I totally bought into the idea of it being healthier, and I did lose some weight, but never could get to the point where I was even close to a normal weight. So then I decided to become a raw vegan. I lost some weight doing that at first but quickly stalled. So I thought I needed to be more extreme and became low-fat raw vegan, which basically meant I was eating boatloads of fruit and lots of lettuce and other raw veggies. That resulted in even more weight loss, but then my hair started falling out and my stomach was constantly hurting. It was at that point that I decided I would never again buy 100% into a diet guru's teachings (or way of life, or whatever folks want to call it). I had gone to so much effort and still was overweight, it was very discouraging. So, I looked back at my history and realized that being a vegan was doing nothing for me. The next day I ate some eggs and was astounded at how great I felt. Then I slowly incorporated meat back into my diet, and I kept waiting for the scale to go up, but it never did. I also started religiously tracking my food intake at Cronometer.com, which I have continued to this day. And then I found this great website, read Mark's book, and most of what he had to say made sense to me. So I slowly started trying adding items back into my diet, and was able to figure out what types of foods trigger weight gains for me, what makes me feel ill, etc., etc. I also still read every nutrition book I can get my hands on in an effort to stay as educated as possible. And then I use myself as a guinea pig, trying out different things and seeing what is successful and what is not. And I always keep my mind open to new possibilities. I refuse to be pigeonholed into doing something just because some author says I should. And I'm better off for it. I am down nearly 200lbs from my heaviest.

                  At this point, I eat:
                  -zero dairy (no, not even butter)
                  -zero grains (not even white rice)
                  -zero potatoes
                  -zero corn
                  -avoid all forms of sugar (i also do not eat any fruit at all)
                  -limited quantities of walnut and olive oils
                  -limited quantities of nuts and nut butters (the pre-measured Artisana packs are great)
                  -three eggs for breakfast cooked in 1tsp of walnut oil
                  -a raw vegan lunch each day, usually a big salad with lettuce, raw veggies, nuts, and an oil/vinegar dressing
                  -some type of meat with dinner with a whole lot of steamed veggies
                  -avoid like the plague anything that is pre-packaged, even if it claims to be gluten free or labels itself as healthy
                  -i drink a lot of green tea each day, sometimes coffee
                  -i religiously track my food intake at cronometer.com to make sure that my vitamin and mineral levels are appropriate
                  -i don't worry about calories as I always eat to satiety
                  -i eat three times a day, and i do not snack between meals (this is a biggie for me. if i snack, i will not lose weight)
                  Last edited by palebluedots; 10-23-2012, 08:34 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Thanks for the comments.

                    I have started reading the actual book, and not just snipits from internet.

                    took my measurements this morning, bf, weight etc and recorded them.


                    do not think I'll have a hard time with the food part, just wondering about the only eating when hungry? Meals are an important "family" time here as we Foster.

                    Thanks again.
                    55 yr old male


                    07/01/2013

                    Weight; 199
                    Chest; 41.5
                    Waist; 42
                    Hips; 40
                    Thigh; 22.5
                    Calf; 15
                    Bicep: 13
                    Forearm; 11.5
                    Neck; 17

                    07/20/2013

                    Weight; 200
                    Chest; 42
                    Waist; 42.5
                    Hips; 39
                    Thigh; 23
                    Calf; 15
                    Bicep: 13
                    Forearm; 11.5
                    Neck; 16

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                    • #25
                      Sitting in icewater is also not part of primal blueprint. Just something some people do if.other things fail. I never have and never will , i prefer staying warm

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                      • #26
                        You don't need to eat to be present at a meal...in fact, you'd be setting an excellent example if you sat down at the dinner table and said, when someone asked why you weren't eating, that you just weren't hungry. Eating when you aren't hungry is only bad. And I'm sure they would love to know that you're then there specifically because you want to spend time with them!
                        29/F
                        5'4.5
                        Highest weight: 220
                        Starting weight: 195
                        Current weight: 179
                        Goal weight: 127

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                        • #27
                          [QUOTE=ez2cy;985460]
                          Originally posted by bdilla View Post

                          I've been reading a lot, and I'm not sure what is different from the 4 hour body to Primal? Both talk about not eating refined, less exercise etc. Only differance I've seen so far is 4 hour uses legumes, Primal doesn't.

                          Am I missing something?
                          You're missing the part about PB not being a "diet".

                          This is a lifestyle, and EATING REAL FOOD is just one facet of an overall optimal way of living.

                          There is no ONE thing. No magic beans, no late night TV fitness DVD promo, no brand name workout, no ONE food that will turn the tide.

                          Stop looking at life as either being on a diet, or not being on a diet. Eat real food, learn to recognize true physical hunger vs. cravings, and PLEASE read the book.
                          Sandra
                          *My obligatory intro

                          There are no cheat days. There are days when you eat primal and days you don't. As soon as you label a day a cheat day, you're on a diet. Don't be on a diet. ~~ Fernaldo

                          DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                          • #28
                            Hmm... you lost weight eating protein and veg?

                            Sounds suspiciously like Primal...
                            “Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.” Rumi

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