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  • #46
    Originally posted by KimInGA View Post
    Bone structure has to make a HUGE difference. I am 5'9" and have a 5.5" wrist (not even listed on that link, at my height) ... 138 lbs yet a size 10 with ~25% BF! When I did a quick search for "weight by frame size", I found that there is a 20-30 lb difference in the weight range depending on whether you have a small, medium or large frame. And I know that there are people who have both smaller and bigger frames than even what is listed at that link, because I'm amongst the smaller. So maybe the practical weight range is more like 30-40 lbs difference, depending on frame size? That sounds reasonable.

    I think it's got to be healthier to have a bigger frame. Surely your bones are less likely to shatter like matchsticks someday when you're 80? I wonder about this for myself, because my bones all seem so tiny. My nose is really skinny too, and I can hardly breathe out of it. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. Not a good thing though ... makes it quite difficult to sleep well or even breathe hard when working out!
    Oh wow - I am 5 inches shorter than you but my wrists are 6.25" - I guess it's no mystery why I am at 156.

    I was talking to my mom over the weekend about this and she said that she always was heavier than she looked. Doctors, even, were surprised by how heavy she was for her size.

    The silver lining to this - my mom is 83 years old and has never broken a bone. I am hoping I have the same good luck as I age!
    "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
    ---John F. Kennedy

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    • #47
      I'm 5'2" and my wrist measurement is 6.25". I've also never broken a bone (does cracking a rib at age 12 from falling off stilts count?) I can ice skate without lacing the skates tight around my ankles. People usually guess I weigh less than I really do.

      It's not what's on the scale that counts--it's health. There are plenty of skinny-fat people who are pre-diabetic without knowing it, and who can't lift a 25lb. bag of pet food.

      I'll take being healthy and strong!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by gempdx44 View Post
        Hi.

        I am driving myself crazy with the scale and comparing myself to what others weigh. You would think at my age I would know better not to compare myself to others but apparently not, because I have been in a funk all day.

        I'm 45 years old, 5'4" and for the life of me ... I cannot get below 150 pounds! Actually, I was 156 pounds this morning. I lift weights 2-3 times a week. I do HIIT 1-2 times a week. I try to incorporate as much slow movement as I can while having a desk job. I eat at a deficit, usually 1400-1600 calories a day. I eat whole foods and very little sugar or alcohol. I am hypo, but on Synthroid and feel great other than my weight.

        Last time I had my bodyfat measured I was 23.8%, down from 31% when I started training in December. I know I should not worry about the scale, but for fuck's sake - 156 pounds?

        Can it really be that my bones just "weigh more"? I always thought that was a load of crap my mom fed me, but when I see other women with similar bodies to mine that weigh 130 I have to wonder.

        Anyone else out there feel like they weigh much more than they should? I never thought I'd be a size 6 at 156 pounds, but I am and sometimes - a size 4. That just seems so weird.

        I feel your pain. I am 43 5'6" 133 lbs and wear a size 2 and when I was in my 20's didnt work out and had no muscle and in a size 2 I was 104 lbs. If I were 104 lbs now I would look sick. Muscle weighs alot. Relax

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        • #49
          Fascinating topic -- just goes to show that weight and size are irrelevant. For the record, I'm "dense" too : 5'10' 175 lbs (I think -- I'm weighed at infrequent dic visits). I wear a size six or eight. People routinely guess my weight at 140 ... I couldn't care less what the scale says.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by gempdx44 View Post
            Hi.

            I am driving myself crazy with the scale and comparing myself to what others weigh. You would think at my age I would know better not to compare myself to others but apparently not, because I have been in a funk all day.

            I'm 45 years old, 5'4" and for the life of me ... I cannot get below 150 pounds! Actually, I was 156 pounds this morning. I lift weights 2-3 times a week. I do HIIT 1-2 times a week. I try to incorporate as much slow movement as I can while having a desk job. I eat at a deficit, usually 1400-1600 calories a day. I eat whole foods and very little sugar or alcohol. I am hypo, but on Synthroid and feel great other than my weight.

            Last time I had my bodyfat measured I was 23.8%, down from 31% when I started training in December. I know I should not worry about the scale, but for fuck's sake - 156 pounds?

            Can it really be that my bones just "weigh more"? I always thought that was a load of crap my mom fed me, but when I see other women with similar bodies to mine that weigh 130 I have to wonder.

            Anyone else out there feel like they weigh much more than they should? I never thought I'd be a size 6 at 156 pounds, but I am and sometimes - a size 4. That just seems so weird.
            I think a good way to look at this is to ask yourself this question:

            Would you be questioning the how/whys like you are about your weight if someone thought you were 30 instead of the 45 year old you are? I think not. I think you would be flattered.I think you would relish the fact that you do not look your age.

            So my take- be flattered, be grateful, that you can weigh what you weigh, wear the sizes you do, don't look the standard/typical size and know the scale is a blatant liar.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by sbhikes View Post
              I found this chart online on how to determine your frame size. Calculating body frame size: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia Image I'm right at the borderline of medium and large, my wrist is exactly 6.5". I do believe that not only do people have bigger bones, but if you've been doing paleo or primal long enough, your big bones are going to be way denser. Plus any muscle you have is probably denser, too.
              I'm never sure how accurate these things are... I have really scrawny wrists (under 5.5") and yet I have comparatively broad shoulders, and no matter how thin I've been in the past, I've had big, solid thighs (I don't think it would be physically possible for me to have skinny legs... they're just... solid).

              Then again, maybe I'm weird, but I think you need to look at more than just wrists to determine frame size . I'd be interested in getting a proper body composition done.

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              • #52
                5' 10" and my wrist measure 7" so by their scale.. that puts me at Extra-Extra Large bone structure...
                I dont really worry about my body weight (dont even own a scale) but somewhere around 180 is probably optimal for me considering I have a LOT of muscle also.

                Yup... Im a freaking Amazon

                but the point is, everyone's different,, I have a friend, same height as me who is about 125-130, that is a perfect weight for her, different bone structure, different frame, different muscle structure.. I couldn't even get down to 130 if I was anorexic.
                Last edited by DinoHunter; 10-23-2012, 03:42 AM.
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                • #53
                  Have y'all seen this before? Type in a ht, wt, pant size, etc and see what other women look like? Interesting.

                  Welcome - My Body Gallery - What Real Women Look Like
                  65lbs gone and counting!!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Iron Fireling View Post
                    I'm never sure how accurate these things are... I have really scrawny wrists (under 5.5") and yet I have comparatively broad shoulders, and no matter how thin I've been in the past, I've had big, solid thighs (I don't think it would be physically possible for me to have skinny legs... they're just... solid).

                    Then again, maybe I'm weird, but I think you need to look at more than just wrists to determine frame size . I'd be interested in getting a proper body composition done.
                    You are not weird. I think a lot of women have smaller upper bodies. That chart puts me at 'small', but there is nothing small about my legs! Like you, they will never be skinny, so I opt for strong. I am dense. The fad of skinny jeans and jeggings does not work for this girl. My upper body is very petite and can look quite sinewy/muscular. I have a very hard time getting any definition in my legs, and sadly I have 'saddle bags' despite only wearing a size 4 jean.

                    I still think my frame is probably 'small', but the fat composition/distribution is an entirely different story.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by nuprimal View Post
                      I have to tell you that keeping it at 116 is actually quite difficult for me as I have lost over 100lb since going primal and it seems like my body just keeps wanting to lose, even with getting all the cals I need or can eat. I know, I shouldn't complain. But at some point I did start to because I see myself getting closer to being considered "underweight"....even though I feel great!
                      Holy cow! Congratulations on your amazing weight loss! Can you please share what your typical eating/exercise routines are?

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                      • #56
                        Amazon women rock. (How many spammers are going to repeat that sentence?)
                        Female, 5'3", 50, Max squat: 202.5lbs. Max deadlift: 225 x 3.

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                        • #57
                          Yes Amazon women DO rock

                          I loved my look when I was lifting and everything was nice and solid and in place. I like that much better than tiny & frail. But I am a country girl, so there's lots I need to do that requires muscle. Men (trying to do their jobs & also be gentleman-y) want to load my feed bags but I am like I can get it, I have to get it myself when I get home.

                          My only broken bone was when my horse tripped and fell at a lope, and I put my hand out, I guess I thought I could break my fall, but broke my arm above my wrist instead.

                          This is all why I dont really have a goal weight in mind. I think I can look pretty good at 150 as much as I do at 125, depending on the muscle. I just like being strong and able-bodied. I like doing things for myself. I do let DH open the door for me though. That took some getting use to. He enjoys it I think, so I enjoy it now also.

                          Anyways...

                          Amazon women rock!!
                          65lbs gone and counting!!

                          Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by gempdx44 View Post
                            Oh wow - I am 5 inches shorter than you but my wrists are 6.25" - I guess it's no mystery why I am at 156.

                            I was talking to my mom over the weekend about this and she said that she always was heavier than she looked. Doctors, even, were surprised by how heavy she was for her size.

                            The silver lining to this - my mom is 83 years old and has never broken a bone. I am hoping I have the same good luck as I age!
                            Yep. You might be shorter and weigh more - - but you are slimmer than I am! Pretty amazing, huh? I've measured and my thighs are a solid 23", my hips no less than 40". Believe me, I would gladly add 25# to that scale reading if I could get down to 22" thighs and 38.5" hips so I could rock a size 8 instead of 10!

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                            • #59
                              I am definitely with you on this one (see my post..shoot the scale). I am 5'5 and 150 lbs that just won't budge but I am a perfect size 4. Did I mention that I'm 58. All I know is that I feel better, have more energy and look better in my clothes. I did invest in a scale that "measures" body fat, bone density and water. I know that these scales are not fully accurate but it does help a little when I can see some changes somewhere. For the most part I agree with a number of people who commented on my post. Don't weight too often. Maybe once a month is better for some of us and keep up the good work. Believe me you are likely doing very good things for your health and I agree with your bone density comment. My mom was only 4'11 weighed about 100 lbs and despite taking Fosamax and working out fractured her hip at age 87 and passed away 3 months later. Weight does have it's advantages.

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