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    I started trying to get on the primal diet a few months ago and apart from the odd slip up I have been doing very well and yes although I do feel better in myself and I have lost a small amount of weight but now I feel like I'm eating for the sake of eating rather than enjoying food. My diet has roughly been:

    Breakfast: 2 Egg omlette and yakult blueberry yogurt
    Midmorning: Tin of mackerel with spinach and a protein shake (full milk)
    Lunch: Sliced steak salad with olive oil
    Midafternoon: Pistachio nuts and an apple
    Post training: Protein shake and 2 egg turkey omlette

    I dont enjoy this atall so find eating a chore, I am wondering if I can realistically eat a mixture of my old diet and new yet still feel ok and get in shape? I am fine with the fruit and nuts as snacks but really do not enjoy the salad. I know some people have substituted components of there diet for more healthier option? I cannot cook anything through the day as I work from a van. I get about 10 mins prep time on an evening to make everything so would like to stick to that. Was thinking possibly something like:

    Breakfast: Bran flakes and yakult blueberry yogurt
    Midmorning: Protein shake and pistachio nuts
    Lunch: Grannary bread and beef or lamb sandwich
    Midafternoon: Apple and oat bar
    Post training: Protein shake and tin of fish

    I currentely train Krav maga 2-3 times a week which has a big conditioning session at the start and then having a lifting/abs session on the weekend. I also walk/jog every morning/evening with the dog and do a small morning circuit consisting of turkish get ups, push ups, crunches and squats.

    Any advice would be great thanks

  • #2
    - WAY too much exercise
    - Ditch the yakult and protein shakes - they're giving you more cravings
    - Eat more food. How many calories are you consuming?
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    • #3
      I actually don't think your training too much. From what I see it looks to be primarily in the low and slow or functional categories with your 2-3x skill work/week....so seems fine.

      If your not enjoying food you could buy a book like these Everyday Paleo from Sarah Fragoso - Paleo Recipes and Paleo Talk Podcast or just search websites for new ideas like here http://nomnompaleo.com/. Getting inventive with different types and combinations of food stuff can really bring some zing back to your palate.

      If you only got 10 min. in the evening then buy a slow cooker and use it! Make some of the most nutritious and delicious primal foods available this way. Ribs, stews, roasts, broth....start with a fatty meat add veggies, spices, and herbs to taste....set it on low and 8-10 hours later you've got several servings of great stuff to last you through the week.

      Either way, most people have problems with emotional eating and relying on TOO much enjoyment coming strictly from food. Food is fuel. It can also be an enjoyable event and there is no reason not to be when its highly nutritious, but you don't have to cultivate a dependance on it (food related dopamine rush that is).

      Looks to me like you need to get a spice and herb rack going and learn how to experiment with different combos.
      Last edited by Neckhammer; 10-18-2012, 09:50 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Neckhammer View Post
        I actually don't think your training too much. From what I see it looks to be primarily in the low and slow or functional categories with your 2-3x skill work/week....so seems fine.
        Ab work on the weekend and doing circuit training and jogging every day counts as slow movement? Mmmm okay.
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        • #5
          I'd go out and get a primal cookbook or even some magazines like Saveur or Bon Appetit, look at primal food blogs.... and start cooking.

          I am BIG on enjoying food, and you can do a lot with primal cooking without resorting to adding bread. I had BBQ ribs the other day. Make primal pancakes for breakfast. Try new stuff like kimchi and kombucha. I eat salad like once a month. Have your steak with a side of roasted asparagus, sweet potato, cauliflower mash, braised green beans, sauted kale, cabbage cooked with bacon.

          Don't limit yourself.

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          • #6
            throwing a bunch of ingredients in a crock pot takes 5 minutes

            so you have 5 extra free minutes a day

            wheeeee!
            beautiful
            yeah you are

            Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
            lol

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            • #7
              These threads has some really great ideas. Part of the fun of going primal is learning how to cook again. Trying new food combos and breaking free of old food ideas.
              "Though she be but little, she is fierce!" - William Shakespeare

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              • #8
                And re-reading, you have time constraints. OK, well good eating requires some time commitment if you want to keep it diverse and enjoyable. Maybe you just need to commit to taking some time each week to log some time in the kitchen.

                There is probably no way to eat with minimal food prep time that is healthy and long term enjoyable. But, it's important, really important to create a healthy diet that you find sustainable. You obviously make time in your day to exercise, but eating healthy is just as, if not MORE important. On average I spend about 30 minutes a day cooking (and cleaning up). Some days it is more, some days it is less.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=Shane.;981875]
                  I currentely train Krav maga 2-3 times a week which has a big conditioning session at the start and then having a lifting/abs session on the weekend. I also walk/jog every morning/evening with the dog and do a small morning circuit consisting of turkish get ups, push ups, crunches and squats. /QUOTE]

                  Ok....so this is what the OP does. You really think this is "WAY too much exercise"? Come on! 2-3x skills training....fine. "A (as in one) lifting/abs session on the weekend....fine. Walk/jog 2x/day.....fine. "Small" moring circuit of body weight movements...fine.

                  Jogging IS slow movement for most people....I can't get my heart rate above the "low and slow" area with a jog. The morning circuit is NOT chronic in any manner. I assumed these to be bodyweight. Some pushups, airsquats, crunches and such on a daily basis is perfectly OK.

                  Anyway, the OP is not "enjoying" food and I think we can focus more on that.

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                  • #10
                    I know. I am just picking at it because personally, when I have lots of stressors such as exercise, I don't enjoy ANYTHING.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shane. View Post
                      Breakfast: 2 Egg omlette and yakult blueberry yogurt
                      Midmorning: Tin of mackerel with spinach and a protein shake (full milk)
                      Lunch: Sliced steak salad with olive oil
                      Midafternoon: Pistachio nuts and an apple
                      Post training: Protein shake and 2 egg turkey omlette

                      I dont enjoy this atall so find eating a chore, I am wondering if I can realistically eat a mixture of my old diet and new yet still feel ok and get in shape? I am fine with the fruit and nuts as snacks but really do not enjoy the salad. I know some people have substituted components of there diet for more healthier option? I cannot cook anything through the day as I work from a van. I get about 10 mins prep time on an evening to make everything so would like to stick to that. Was thinking possibly something like:

                      Breakfast: Bran flakes and yakult blueberry yogurt
                      Midmorning: Protein shake and pistachio nuts
                      Lunch: Grannary bread and beef or lamb sandwich
                      Midafternoon: Apple and oat bar
                      Post training: Protein shake and tin of fish
                      okay, JUST looking at your food...
                      I'd cut out the yakult (is the blueberry flavor sweetened?) and the protein shake. Most likely non-primal, and they don't really add anything to the meal plan's excitement (at least for me). I personally wouldn't make the tin of mackerel (what are they packed in?) or the pistachio + apple snack a regular thing either... but that's just me.

                      There are TONS of meals and grab-able snacks you can make with a very small amount of prep time... Hard boiled eggs, quiche muffins, pre-cooked bacon, sausage, beef, salmon, chicken, or other meat (someone mentioned nom nom paleo - she talks about "emergency protein" all the time!), cut up (or whole) veggies, individual servings of cheese (only if you tolerate dairy), homemade kale chips (toss bite-size pieces of kale w/evoo, sea salt & seasonings of your choice, bake at 350F for about 15min [until crispy] - when cooled, you can keep in the refrigerator), primal trail mix (mine is just raw nuts + raw seeds + no-sugar/sulfites-added dried fruit + 80% dark chocolate tossed in a quart size zip-top bag), beef jerky, primal pacs or paleo kits, lara bars (specifically this brand because it is JUST fruit + nuts - avoid the peanut ones though!)... a lot of fruits are easy to grab too (you didn't mention how much weight, if any, you need to lose?)

                      for an on-the-go lunch - you can make a "sandwich" with a lettuce/cabbage/green wrap (Mastering the Collard Wrap | Honest Fare). eat hot leftovers out of a thermos-type container, or room-temp leftovers out of a different kind of container. I don't have access to a kitchen or anything either for lunch - I usually bring leftovers to eat at room temp - usually some sort of protein + whatever veggies were laying around + trail mix + maybe fruit. Sometimes I buy lunch (salad from chipotle, bunless burger, pay-per-pound salad bar eats, etc.), sometimes I fast...you may want to look into intermittent fasting.

                      Crockpot recipes are AWESOME for limited prep time...
                      You mention omelets twice, so I know you're in the kitchen twice a day... boiling eggs, baking a batch of quiche muffins, a tray of kale chips, a pound of bacon (oven bacon = easy, awesome, and no splatters on the stovetop), roasting veggies/sweet potatoes, popping some stuff in a crockpot - these are all things that could be done while you're going about your morning or evening routine - you're already in the kitchen to cook & eat that omelet anyway... I'm guessing you have more than one burner, so make full use of your kitchen (have things going on 4 burners + the oven + the crockpot - you'll have a week's worth of meals without even thinking about it!)
                      Last edited by PrimalMama; 10-18-2012, 11:02 AM. Reason: because I don't know the difference between mackerel and sardines, apparently.

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                      • #12
                        I'd be bored w/ that diet too. I know it's just one example you gave, but you're basically living on a few eggs and a little bit of turkey and steak with nuts and fruit and shakes thrown in. Dump the shakes as others have mentioned and get your protein from the vast variety of meats available out there. A burger, a medium steak, a chicken breast, a pork chop, a salmon steak all take about 10-15 mins cook time in the frying pan w/ some olive oil. While not strictly Paleo you can add some bbq sauce, mustards, horseradish sauce etc. to jazz things up. Plenty of spices available as well to make things tasty. Steam up some veggies at the same time and you're eating w/in 20 mins. Double the portion and take the other half for lunch the next day. Keep the nuts and fruits as snacks every now and then. Throw in some green olives, bacon and hard boiled eggs to shake up the blahs. Between pork, bird, beef and fish there is plenty of variety to keep meals interesting.
                        Last edited by shep68; 10-18-2012, 01:04 PM.

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                        • #13
                          You're not excercising too much(though you don't need the circuit thing every morning), but you are undereating. That looks criminally low in calories.

                          Try fasting for a day or two, and then tell me you're bored with eating. Add red meat, offal and some damn carbs into your day. Drop the olive oil and replace with a better fat source, and replace the protein shake with food.

                          You're eating a wimpy amount of food and you say you're bored? No shit.

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                          • #14
                            I dunno, I think it's a GOOD thing that you don't enjoy food. It means that food no longer has a hold on you. But your menu is too girlie for a manly man like you:

                            Too much dairy.
                            Too much whey powder. I think one scoop is fine but lots of people here don't.
                            Too many omelets.
                            Too many snack-sized meals.
                            Salads are a girly pain. You wash all that lettuce and it won't even stay on a fork for you.

                            You're a man. Eat like a man. Three big fatty, meaty meals a day.
                            Frozen vegetables will save you incredible amounts of time.

                            Breakfast: Three egg omelet with lots of butter, a protein smoothie, and an apple. That should hold you to lunch.

                            Lunch: 1/2 pound of ground beef baked in coconut oil. 1/2 a sweet potato. 1/2 cup or so of some other veggie. If you need dessert, have berries.

                            Dinner: Chicken thigh or fish fliet, starchy veg like carrots, frozen leafy veg like spinach/Kale.

                            No snackies. You won't need them.

                            All of this will take very little time to stick in the oven, and you can make a whole week of meals at once.
                            5'0" female, 45 years old. Started Primal October 31, 2011, at a skinny fat 111.5 lbs. Low weight: 99.5 lb on a fast. Gained back to 115(!) on SAD chocolate, potato chips, and stress. Currently 111.

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                            • #15
                              Read my blog, bro.

                              Seriously.

                              Pork butt, flank steak, lamb...oh my god...turkey and chicken are SO BORING.

                              Eat lard. Slather veggies with duck fat.

                              Holy god, I hate protein shakes. They never, EVER keep me full.
                              A Post-Primal PrimalPat

                              Do not allow yourself to become wrapped up in a food 'lifestyle'. That is ego, and you are not that.

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