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  • #46
    Originally posted by gopintos View Post
    I lost the majority of my weight pre-primal also. I was eating primal for the most part, except that I had added in whole grains and legumes, because I heard they were good for me. My carbs were about 150-225 per day. Fat was about 30%. Losing about 10lbs per month.

    Like you, I was looking for a lifestyle and while what I was doing would have been okay, I was eating all the time it seemed, so I was looking for something different.

    I found primal, and started increasing the fat, lower the carbs. That helped me to get a good grip on my hunger. To understand hunger. It helped me to practice fasting. I was getting full on less food. But as the fat went up, the weight loss went down. It didnt matter where my calories were, or where my carbs were. My protein was always pretty consistent. But my pattern definitely shows with each increase in fat, weight loss slowed until finally at about 75% fat, it actually was a weight gain and my fasting would take it back off. My calories were at a deficit. Very few 20%.

    But you said you have tried to lower fat, so I don't know. I think 30% up to 40 maybe, is where I need to be for weight loss. And I think 60-70% will be good for maintenance.

    What finally gave me the courage to go back to what was working, when most everyone else was having great success with high fat/low carbs, was I re-read this page. I had read it before, but it did not sink in.
    Perfect Health Diet: Weight Loss Version | Perfect Health Diet

    And it may all just be a co-inky dink also. I have only recently converted back, so time will tell for sure, but so far, I have lost more weight since Oct 3 than I have in the last 3 months combined.
    Trying to adhere to the standard guidlines, I just recently, (reluctantly) added back a TON of veggies that I had been craving through this entire process. I scaled back on fats (to avocado and cooking oils) and left my protein alone. I've already seen changes in my body comp and it's only been a week...I've been doing this for about 4 months. My approach now is to go with what I'm craving and keep it clean and primal.

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    • #47
      Yep, free clinic, show them your nutrition journal, tell them all you've written here, they will help you.
      I hope you find some answers and relief.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by heatherdarbs View Post
        Trying to adhere to the standard guidlines, I just recently, (reluctantly) added back a TON of veggies that I had been craving through this entire process. I scaled back on fats (to avocado and cooking oils) and left my protein alone. I've already seen changes in my body comp and it's only been a week...I've been doing this for about 4 months. My approach now is to go with what I'm craving and keep it clean and primal.
        Loved reading this!! It's nice to hear of other similar experiences. I wish I had not waited 7 months. I thought I would be close to goal by now... ugggh. Oh well. I learned lots along the way. I have kept off what I have lost, so that is good.
        65lbs gone and counting!!

        Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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        • #49
          There might/probably/most likely some medical explanation for what is happening (sorry to hear btw, I know how frustrating losing weight can be). Absent any medical explanations though....have you;
          1. Actually tried increasing your calories and observed what happened? I am tiny too 5 1 and started at about 155, I did not decrease my calories to 1200-1400 (which I am still eating and still losing weight) until I hit the 145 lb mark. I think you should try 1500-1700. At your current weight it may be too drastic for your body to go as low as 1200 without any medical supervision.

          That's all I have really. Good luck and hope you figure things out.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
            I'm sorry, but the whole "you're not eating enough to lose" thing gets me hot. Ever known an overweight junkie? Know anyone who came out of a concentration camp fat? At my laziest 200 pound not doing anything physical weight, at 1200 cal/day, I lost a good 2-3 pounds per week, sometimes more. And that was with one day a week at 1600+ cal because I didn't want my body to adapt to such a low calorie intake. Below 160 lbs, that naturally started to slow down.

            My rules for weight loss:

            #1. Never listen to anyone who is fat.
            #2. Never listen (blindly) to anyone who has never been fat.
            #3. Doctors, though flawed, generally give better advice than people on message boards.
            Sorry to say that calories count for me as well. I gained weight on "unweighed, unmeasured" Primal. Now I find I can lose verrrrrryyyyyyy slowly (like 1-2 pounds a month) if I eat 1400 calories a day and drink my water.

            Also there is no shame in taking "drugs" for a thyroid problem. You are just replacing what your body no longer makes on its own. I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's two years ago, and while the weight loss is still a huge struggle, at least I am not slowly gaining anymore. I am thinking positive thoughts in that you'll be able to figure something out and get your levels checked!
            "For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie—deliberate, contrived, and dishonest—but the myth—persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic ... we enjoy the comfort of opinions without the discomfort of thought."
            ---John F. Kennedy

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            • #51
              Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
              My rules for weight loss:

              #1. Never listen to anyone who is fat.
              #2. Never listen (blindly) to anyone who has never been fat.
              #3. Doctors, though flawed, generally give better advice than people on message boards.
              Interesting view point.

              If someone is fat but losing, I figure they have something figured out, some knowledge of piece of information that might be beneficial to me.

              And anyone who has never been fat, I figure they must be doing something right and maybe I should take note, though I do find that sometimes they just dont understand. But some do or try.

              And doctors, my doctor never did me any favors in the weight loss department. And I made a regularly scheduled appt every year to discuss it with him. It wasnt until I met with his nurse practitioner that she gave me some contact information for bariatric surgery, to which my insurance does not cover, so I knew it was up to me.
              Last edited by gopintos; 10-12-2012, 04:07 PM.
              65lbs gone and counting!!

              Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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              • #52
                Yes, I concede that I should never use the term "never."

                But #2 I would. Anyone who has never been fat isn't necessarily doing something right. It may just be genetics. I've known lots of thin people who are thin no matter how they live. One fat parent >>> 50% chance of being fat. Two fat parents >>> 80% chance of being fat. Genetics? Environment? I don't know. I do know that anyone who has never had to lose weight can't possibly know what my situation is (one where I have to count every freakin morsel or gain), nor the situation of the OP.

                And anyone who tells me to eat more to lose more? Yeah, and 1 + 1 = 3.
                "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                B*tch-lite

                Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                  Anyone who has never been fat isn't necessarily doing something right.
                  That is true. I should have qualified mine also. I was thinking about my friends my same age. Some of the young'uns, maybe it just hasnt caught up with them yet
                  65lbs gone and counting!!

                  Fat 2 Fit - One Woman's Journey

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by gopintos View Post
                    And anyone who has never been fat, I figure they must be doing something right and maybe I should take note,
                    Bodies are definitely different so you can't assume they know something you don't. I knew a guy who would regularly eat HUGE quantities of food and calories. I mean, if we went to MacDonald's it was TWO Big Macs, super sized fries, and a shake. Or if we all went out to pizza he ordered a whole one for himself, while the rest of us shared a second pizza. If I ate even half what he did I'd way 400 lbs! But he didn't have an ounce of fat on him. And, no, he wasn't an Olympic athlete, marathon runner, or anything like that. But he did always seem to have a lot of energy. I think some people's metabolisms really do just run a lot hotter than others. So just because something's working for them doesn't mean it will work for you.

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                    • #55
                      I just wanted to tell you that I have a history of thyroid issues as well. I decided that I would try the iodine thing, and that basically threw me into hypothyroidism. I've been off of the iodine for a few months now, and my thyroid hormones are finally almost back into the "normal" range for me. Through this process I gained 20lbs which I am now trying to get off. I don't think it's a good idea for people to dose themselves with iodine, it should be under the care of a doctor. I have heard way too many stories about iodine giving people thyroid issues. So if you are still taking it, you might want to stop.

                      It really sounds like you are having some kind of underlying hormonal problem. If taking the iodine made it worse, then I would suspect that you were hypothyroid to begin with and that taking the iodine actually made it worse. There really is no substitute for seeing a doctor and getting some blood work done in this case. There is no way you should have gained that amount of weight eating that low of calories and with your physical expenditure. It just doesn't make sense. Don't give up on Primal, but please do find a way to see a doc and get some tests done. And if you are still taking the iodine, you might want to stop. I'm not a doctor by any means, but just giving my advice from personal experience. Good luck, I know how frustrating it is.

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                      • #56
                        Take a look at my journal for my struggle. I have had troubles for a great while losing weight because I wasn't eating enough. I have to consciously be sure I am eating enough to sustain my daily activities and then I can lose. I also wonder, when was the last time you took a break? I suggest you take a break from lifting for 1 month. Eat high nutrient foods without weighing/measuring until satiety. Drink water to thirst. Get at least 8 hours of sleep per night, more if you are still tired. Give your body at least 1 month to start healing itself. Stay off the scale during that month. Maybe try a whole 30.

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                        • #57
                          Lost fat and gained muscle, so it really worked for me.
                          Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
                          PS
                          Don't forget to play!

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                          • #58
                            Wow- I don't know how to thank all of you who have weighed in on this post and especially to those of you that have went out of your way to be kind and provide helpful and thoughtful suggestions. I did google for some health care options and I left a message at a low income clinic. I will follow up on Monday and make it a priority to get some tests done even if I have to get some money together and have them run myself. Thank you seems inadequate but it's what I have to offer.

                            I hate that it is probably going to be my thyroid or a combination of that and hormone issues. I guess I have known for awhile that was what it was coming to. I was losing so well before and then for some reason when I decided to go higher fat and even lower carb something seemed to break! I would give anything to go back and rethink that decision!!!!

                            I wanted to do one of the people for whom high (healthy) fats and less carbs was the magical 'sweet' spot, alas that was not to be. But I will never go back to grains, processed or manufactured foods. I love my clean and natural foods and it did heal my IBS.

                            I stopped the iodine quite some time ago and Yes I did feel it was making the situation worse

                            I would like to clarify that I did the PB exactly as written for probably 10 months before I started tweaking! And by then I had already gained a lot of weight, but I kept thinking it was my body healing and I would eventually reverse. *sigh* again, not to be!

                            Thanks to every single one who took part in this thread!!

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                            • #59
                              [QUOTE=teach2183;977324]Take a look at my journal for my struggle. I have had troubles for a great while losing weight because I wasn't eating enough. I have to consciously be sure I am eating enough to sustain my daily activities and then I can lose. I also wonder, when was the last time you took a break? I suggest you take a break from lifting for 1 month. Eat high nutrient foods without weighing/measuring until satiety. Drink water to thirst. Get at least 8 hours of sleep per night, more if you are still tired. Give your body at least 1 month to start healing itself. Stay off the scale during that month. Maybe try a whole 30.[/QUOTE\]

                              I will check out your journal and thanks for the input. I will implement as much of everyone's advice as I can. I have done the whole30 twice already!

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                              • #60
                                Some symptoms of hypothyroid are weight gain or difficult losing weight, extreme fatigue, muscle cramps, cold intolerance, dry skin and hair. Not treating hypothyroidism can be dangerous, so you should find a way to get tested soon.

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