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    One of my relatives who can't breastfeed anymore is looking for acceptable infant formulas, but so far almost all of them have either soy, HFCS and always, as far as I have found, use industrial vegetable oils as a source of fats. It's Paleo-Hell.


    Has anyone managed to find a more Paleo-friendly formula? If so I'd love to hear about it.

    “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
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    WAPF has recipes for homemade Baby Formula:


    http://www.westonaprice.org/Recipes-for-Homemade-Baby-Formula.html


    I remember someone posting here from France about the formula they feed their baby, that is way better than the American ones. Don't know if it's available in the US though. Will post the link if I can find it.

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      thanks a lot Maba

      “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
      "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
      "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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        No problem, SS. Here's the thread I was talking about.


        http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...Need-some-help!

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          If the baby is getting close to a year she can start trying out cow's milk, goat milk, whatever...most wait until a year, but I have a few friends who started transitioning as early as 10 months. And once baby starts food he or she can gets lots of good stuff that way and won't need as much formula or milk to get healthy fats and all that.


          good luck.

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            There's some controversy about non-human milk proteins and immune development you might want to look into. Caseins (it's a family of proteins) widen gaps in the infant (and in some circumstances, adult) intestinal lining, allowing some peptides to pass though. Many of these peptides may present antigens, allowing the developing immune system to identify substances it can learn an immune response to. Proteins from other animals have been suggested (may have been confirmed, but I'm not sure) to cause immune dysfunction as improper immunities are developed and can cause auto-immune issues later in life. I'm far from expert on the topic, but you might want to look into it before you give your child any animal milk.

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              There are breast milk banks (they pasteurize it, though). It's expensive and not offered everywhere but is 1000X better than formula.

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                Unfortunately there are no acceptable baby formulas.


                Tell her to buy a pump. You don't have to use one of those old school handpumps anymore. They have electric ones that are faster and extract more milk.


                No matter what you are going from "primal" to "mcdonald's". With formula

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                  It's not just about choosing to pump or not. Some women end up with not enough milk or a huge depletion in milk supply and have no choice.


                  Some women try everything from natural methods (herbs, diet, lactation consultant, etc) to being on a prescription with no luck.

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                    I can tell you that sometimes a pump will not extract the milk... not matter the model. My breasts must have gotten as big as my head. I had preemie twins that could NOT nurse properly... and the pumps would not work.. AT ALL, I tried several, all the "top notch ones"... OMG, the number of people that handled my body in a 2 week time span to help was unreal. Pumps... baby attempts... It was overwhelmingly depressing.


                    Your friend needs to know that it's ok to do the best that she can for her baby. Without a food source, it will not matter the quality...


                    I personally would avoid soy, and weird ingredients.


                    I can tell you my babies were bottle/formula fed, on what I now recognize as probably not the BEST formula (but feed 2 babies at once... OMG!) I eliminated soy, and wacko chemicals... They are wickedly healthy children. And I can say even "more healthy" with fewer colds and such compared to many breast fed twins, they hang out with... mine have managed spectacular immune systems.


                    Breast is best, but eating is the most important variable.

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                      Thanks all for the feedback. After doing some online research, I am horrified by the ingredients of all the brands I have read about. ALL.


                      For example: http://bit.ly/daoNa6


                      Humanity's best attempts to recreate breast milk all use industrial vegetable oils and sweeteners, as well as foreign dietary components to man such as vegetable based proteins from soy. Appalling.


                      The ideal scenario after breast milk would be the home-made formula described on the link provided by Maba. I am not sure if most would go through all the hassle to make it though. (After this online research, I would).


                      My relative just can't breastfed anymore so the only way I can be constructive would be unfortunately, unless I find some exception to the rule, to recommend the lesser evil. And like Twinmama says, at least she will be fed. The whole thing depresses me though.

                      “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                      "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                      "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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                        Hey Serial... It IS depressing... and I guarantee it's even more depressing for mom. I must have cried for 2-3 weeks when I finally decided that my attempts to breast feed my children was not only causing me extreme amounts of stress, additional sleep loss, but also utter frustration for my babies. They would try so hard, and end up screaming as their attempts left them quite hungry! Not good for a 3lb 11 oz baby!!!


                        I really wouldn't call baby formula "evil"... I know there are ingredients that many find appalling... But this is about FEEDING a child with the best available source. If mom can't, then she can't. All judgement (even mom's) needs to be put aside.


                        Also, when it's time to switch to solids... she can go straight to REAL food, organic, and make it all at home. It's SUPER EASY! (I was lucky that my kiddos didn't eat even one single jar of babyfood. AND... AND... It's MUCH CHEAPER! (trust the busy mom of twins on this one!)If you/she would like some help with this, please let me know. I'll share all my time saving tricks! How old is your relatives baby anyhow?

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                          I agree with twinmama...try to stay positive for your relative and focus on the light at the end of the tunnel.

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                            So what would have happend before the invention of formula?


                            Call me an a-hole or whatever,but I just can't buy you can't do something you are meant to do.

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                              twinmama, she is 10 months old, so she has enjoyed some of the benefits of lactation already.


                              Jeffrw: community upbringing, nursing mothers, wet nurses and the like.

                              “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                              "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                              "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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